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I wanted to watch "Bell Book and Candle" but couldn't find it online, legally, for free.  Oppo just announced an amazing camera phone, available about mid October.  Fantastic camera; Oppo R17 Pro.

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3 hours ago, daocat555 said:

I wanted to watch "Bell Book and Candle" but couldn't find it online, legally, for free.  Oppo just announced an amazing camera phone, available about mid October.  Fantastic camera; Oppo R17 Pro.

Save ,free and legal,enjoy.

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3 hours ago, daocat555 said:

I wanted to watch "Bell Book and Candle" but couldn't find it online, legally, for free.  Oppo just announced an amazing camera phone, available about mid October.  Fantastic camera; Oppo R17 Pro.

Mrs F wants to buy an Oppo, I guess this'll be the one she'll have.

 

Next few days I'll make my final choice on a phone, but looks like I'll have the Huawei Nova.

 

Really appreciate your help Daocat!  ?

 

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faraday; in my opinion the Mrs. has it right.  I'll post more details about the amazing camera after I reread the devicespecifications info, and maybe it gets on other sites.  And after I understand it better.  It has some new, high tech way to measure distance to the subject within 1% and the sensor adjusts; it's a lot.

 

OIS,OIS,OIS, faraday.  Does that Nova have it?  I don't know for sure but I used to do 35 mm shots.  That was before OIS and setting the shutter speed either manually or having the camera do it was demanding, and motion blur was a big problem.

 

I want to thank jvs for enabling me to watch "Bell, Book, and Candle".  I just watched it start to finish and really enjoyed it.  Thank you jvs.

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If you must buy the Nova, faraday, here are buying tips.  Go to the site Kimovil and float your mouse over Smatphones and to the left click on "On Sale".  See if they have it listed.  They do today, and the best price is Aliexpress; which is good as they are very reputable.  Today's best price is $402.98 in black, 6/64.  Then check the seller rating of the Store with the best price at Aliexpress (which usually Kimovil gets you to exactly).  Then check the estimated delivery time.   Today the Hongkong VT Store which has 98.9 % positive feedback and estimated shipping to Thailand in 16-23 days is the winner.
 
Do this every day for a week.  Now, I will speculate based on my experience with the price of new phones.  I expect a big drop in the price about 2-4 weeks from now.  If you don't care what color the phone is be sure to check the price in each color because if you don't care what color you buy for sure you care what about the price.  It's $471.79 in gold.  For those posters who tell me they don't care about the color then good luck getting the best price if you only click on the black color.  At some stores the black color is more expensive than the grey color.  If you don't care about the color (of you phone) you had best check the price of each color!
 
With a gradient finish which is a somewhat expensive process to set up the black tends to be the cheapest; but it is a case by case matter.
 
While looking at the "On Sale" today I noticed the Redmi 6 Pro for $165.49 which is a very sweet deal.  That got me thinking about the Nova as it seems the Redmi 6 Pro has gotten it's 2-4 weeks-in price drop recently where the Nova has not.  That also got me thinking about Elkski who I helped some in private messages until he called me a phone nerd (or was is geek?) so he's on his own but the Redmi 6 Pro exactly fits what he told me he wanted and is $165.49 in gold and $180.99 in black (yes, I read where he is not interested in the phone's color............get that in black then, $180.99; if you had it in gold people might mistake you for someone interested in the color of your phone).
 
I'll just end with one thing about gradient finishes.  They are not for everyone.  I can well imagine someone paying just a bit more to get their phone in black if they felt the gradient finish didn't mesh with their personality.  As the son of a MIT trained engineer, I feel qualified to say that the Gestalt of a product matters.
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Pasted from Quora.  Per gsmarena the Nova has EIS
Optical image stabilization (OIS)

In this technique the image is stabilized by varying the optical path of the sensor. This is real time compensation and hence no alteration or image degradation takes place. The lens assembly is moved parallel to the image plane. Shake detecting sensors( Gyro -sensors) are used, which transmit this information to a microcomputer which in turn converts them into the Drive signal which ultimately moves the lens Assembly to correct the image project on the sensor before it is converted to digital format and thus off-sets your motion. This is the basic principle of all OIS techniques. Different companies have different names for their OIS Technology eg. PureView by Nokia, Ultrapixel by HTC, etc. Nokia made the first cell phone optical stabilized sensor built into Nokia Lumia 920. OIS is more popular in consumer camera devices because it works efficiently even in poor lighting conditions and you wont see degradation in image resolution as corrections are made prior to the signal conversion in digital format.

Electronic image stabilization (EIS)

Electronic image stabilization works on a completely different principle and in this technique the problem is solved at programming level after the optical signal has been converted to a digital signal.

Every camera has a Charge Coupled Device popularly known as CCD which is an array of several light sensors arranged in a grid. It captures the optical light and transmits the image for processing in the form of digital signals.

In EIS the processor breaks down the image in to small chunks and then compares it to the preceding frames. It determines whether the motion was a moving object or an unwanted shake and makes the required correction. Now when you shift the image you need to fill in the shifted area and for that you need to have a bigger CCD or provide some area in the existing CCD to capture image for off screen purposes. This might lead to image degradation; however the effect is fairy less when your camera device has fairly large resolution.

Why OIS is better than EIS?

Main advantage of OIS is that there is no image degradation as necessary compensations are made before optical signal is fed to the CCD. But the hardware for mechanical motion of lenses buts a strain on your battery backup and also adds to the weight of the device.

EIS has become quite popular these days because of they are light and less expensive and with improvement in algorithms used for stabilization image degradation is minimal. But at low resolutions and in poor lighting conditions, you might see significant degradation.

With consumer electronic devices which don’t have a very high resolution , like your Smartphone’s or low resolution Camcorders, OIS is more effective technique and also out performs EIS in dimly lit areas.
 
My take, dimly lit areas....ummmm....any shot in the evening.......most shots inside.  The Nova has a lot of pixels for your shots on the beach at Noon.
 
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3 hours ago, daocat555 said:

faraday; in my opinion the Mrs. has it right.  I'll post more details about the amazing camera after I reread the devicespecifications info, and maybe it gets on other sites.  And after I understand it better.  It has some new, high tech way to measure distance to the subject within 1% and the sensor adjusts; it's a lot.

 

OIS,OIS,OIS, faraday.  Does that Nova have it?  I don't know for sure but I used to do 35 mm shots.  That was before OIS and setting the shutter speed either manually or having the camera do it was demanding, and motion blur was a big problem.

 

I want to thank jvs for enabling me to watch "Bell, Book, and Candle".  I just watched it start to finish and really enjoyed it.  Thank you jvs.

You're very welcome and thank you for all you do.

I am not very big on buying a phone online,i like to see it up close and get the feel of it.I am in no hurry and actually enjoy looking at different specs and opinions.I have a Samsung j5 2016 and have no real complaints about it except the bloatware.

Ann(my better half)needs a new phone and she likes my Samsung.

I will give mine to her and i will buy another one.

 

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Here are my three most recommended phone models as compared to the Samsung Galaxy J5 (2016).  The Samsung stands up pretty well as it was a fine phone in 2016 and is the only phone of the four with a Super AMOLED screen.
 
Don't want to buy via an International seller?  Many people agree with that fortunately that only eliminates the Umidigi, as Xiaomi has a big presence in local Thai Shops.  I would say the Xiaomi Redmi 6 Pro is worth spending more money for but the 6A will be a working phone.
 
The Oppo appeared today on gsmarena's Rumor Mill.  I find that to be a very exciting phone.  It won't be inexpensive but it will have some new features better than any existing phone.
 
 
 
 
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5 hours ago, daocat555 said:
Here are my three most recommended phone models as compared to the Samsung Galaxy J5 (2016).  The Samsung stands up pretty well as it was a fine phone in 2016 and is the only phone of the four with a Super AMOLED screen.
 
Don't want to buy via an International seller?  Many people agree with that fortunately that only eliminates the Umidigi, as Xiaomi has a big presence in local Thai Shops.  I would say the Xiaomi Redmi 6 Pro is worth spending more money for but the 6A will be a working phone.
 
The Oppo appeared today on gsmarena's Rumor Mill.  I find that to be a very exciting phone.  It won't be inexpensive but it will have some new features better than any existing phone.
 
 
 
 

Do you know how much the Redmi 6 pro is selling for in Thailand?

 

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I do not know if the Xiaomi Redmi 6 Pro or the 6A has reached the the Thai shops, or how they would price them.  I live in a pretty quiet area of Jomtien and would need to take a taxi to Tukcom to find the answer to that question.  Online, the price dropped today to $141.49 in gold at Hong Kong Goldway or $156.59 in black.

 

This morning I got news of the upcoming Meizu 16X.  It sounds so good I cancelled my order of the Meizu 16th which I had placed at Aliexpress when it was first announced on August 9; as my seller had yet to ship it.  I expect to be really hyping the Meizu 16X in weeks to come.  It will have my favorite SoC, the Snapdragon 710.

 

Newer SoC means less battery drain and longer battery life, and until the 8 nm process technology chips start arriving the Snapdragon 710 may be the most battery saving processor available.

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dddave; the Poco F1 has been announced and I think it looks very nice.  One Thai website reports that Lazada will list it on August 30'th.  Some International sellers are offering it for presale.  SUNSKY has the best price currently but if you give them your money today they say they will ship your Poco on Sept 30'th which is not a good deal.  Often with Xiaomi phones Lazada is the best place to buy for people in Thailand, so I will post again once Lazada lists it.

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Another day another best affordable recommendation.  The Cubot Official Store is having a sale on pretty much all Cubot phones.  For $70.94 you can get the Cubot J3 Pro; which looks to be a nice phone.  That's 2,308 baht in black, blue or grey.

 

https://www.devicespecifications.com/en/comparison/fbb3118d0a

 

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