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Looking at the location of where these boys are from and the reported ages of 11 to 15 years old I would guess that none of them have ever had swimming lessons so to try and teach them to swim with scuba gear would be asking for trouble unfortunately. I only hope that those in charge do something about stopping the water from increasing and somehow draining it away quickly and that all those boys including their coach are safely rescued

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I've explored this cave many times.

Very dangerous in wet season

High water mark even in larger passages is 3 to 4  meters above cave floor

Smaller passages totally flooded,and ceiling is covered in stalactites

Hope they have someone very familiar with the cave in the rescue party

Wish the kids  well.

Can only hope there hi and dry in the big chamber

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Hidden cave entrances offer new hope for rescue

By THE NATION

 

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Thai rescue workers and park officials rest outside the Tham Luang Nang Non cave, as the authorities search for 12 football players and their coach who have gone missing and are believed to be trapped in cave at Chiang Rai province.// EPA-EFE

 

GUIDED by information from local residents, search teams are seeking ceiling entrances to a cave in Chiang Rai’s Mae Sai district where a group of 12 teenagers and their football coach went missing at the weekend.
 

Pol Colonel Rangsiman Songkrautham, a border patrol police commander, said that according to the information, there were two ceiling passages leading into the cave.

 

“We will check the information by dispatching teams to survey the area on foot and by helicopter. If confirmed, it would boost our chances of finding the missing group,” he said.

 

Search teams could descend into the cave from entrances, he said, adding to rescue efforts that until now have required diving into water from the cave entrance.

 

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Search teams comprising Army, police and Navy SEAL units yesterday worked day and night to find the 12 young footballers and their 25-year-old coach who entered Tham Luang-Khunnam Nang Non cave in the forest park of the same name on Saturday afternoon.

 

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The missing youths are members of a local football team, the Mu Pa Academy Mae Sai. It’s thought that they entered the cave but could not exit as a flash flood blocked their way out.

 

Authorities were alerted during the weekend by a mother of one of the players, who said her son had not come home.

 

His last message to her was that he was visiting the cave with his team and coach, she said. Investigators found 11 bikes belonging to the missing footballers at the cave entrance.

 

Their families are waiting near the cave amid heavy rain, holding on to the hope that their loved ones are safe. Some have held religious rites there, praying for the children’s safety. They are receiving regular updates on the situation from the rescue mission.

 

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Authorities have warned others to stay away from the area to prevent them from obstructing the rescue work.

 

The Navy’s SEAL unit arrived at the site at 2.45am yesterday and was divided into four groups who took turns to dive into the cave.

 

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They drilled holes into two separate halls inside the cave in a bid to locate the missing group, but found only footprints and handprints, which nevertheless raised hopes that the missing were still alive. The SEALS carried food and water in case they found the missing teens, who would be hungry after being trapped since the weekend. On Sunday, diving teams found slippers in the cave.

 

A rescue team has been pumping air into the cave to increase the available oxygen, while the authorities have minimised use of machines near the entrance to ensure that carbon monoxide does not seep into the cave.

 

Meanwhile photos on the Facebook page of coach Ekkapon Chantawongse show the group previously visited the cave. The photos were date-stamped December 30, 2016 with a caption explaining the visit was part of pre-match preparations. 

 

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The photos suggest Ekkapon was close to his team, as they show him with the players on and off the field. 

 

Yesterday divers had to work under muddy water up to five metres deep, with levels in the cave rising due to heavy rain in the afternoon. The search was suspended at about 6pm yesterday due to the rising water level in the cave.

 

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Source: http://www.nationmultimedia.com/detail/national/30348601

 
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Come on, today they have to do all they can to get to these boys. Big fingers crossed they are still alive and well.

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They must get rid of that water but unfortunately what ever way they do it involves a large risk not only to the boys but also to the whole area. They must either open up a channel to drain the water out of the cave which will cause problems with the increased current flow causing erosion of the area with the possibility of causing landslide and cave in at the entrance or to go well upstream and divert the water away via a new channel so that the water does not reach the cave but this also causes the problem of erosion and where is this water going to be sent. Australia uses heat seeking camewra's for the use in finding hot spots in bushfire fighting and also they have been used successfully in finding people trapped in the Thredbo Avalanche but I am unsure of what range they have and if they would penetrate enough earth the be able to pick up the body heat from the boys which would be decreasing because of hypothermia now. My prayers go out to the boys, their families and to the rescuers and pray that their will be a good outcome.

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21 minutes ago, Peabody said:

Mightn't there be a remotely operated underwater drone that could be employed?

unfortunately you can only use it in the flooded section as it would not be able to fly in the other sections of the cave

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8 hours ago, Russell17au said:

Looking at the location of where these boys are from and the reported ages of 11 to 15 years old I would guess that none of them have ever had swimming lessons so to try and teach them to swim with scuba gear would be asking for trouble unfortunately. I only hope that those in charge do something about stopping the water from increasing and somehow draining it away quickly and that all those boys including their coach are safely rescued

Scuba gear with a rope to hold onto will do the tick, whether they can swim or not..

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5 minutes ago, jossthaifarang said:

Scuba gear with a rope to hold onto will do the tick, whether they can swim or not..

Problem: if it was a straight smooth sided tube then I would agree with you but here we have rocky outcrops that the boys could get caught up on and panic because one very big factor in this is they will not be able to see in the dark muddy water, remember there is no sunlight so it is night time every second.

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This is a very scary story. My heart goes out to the parents, family and friends. Best wishes for the lost soles.

I, like every TVF member can only hope for a miraculous outcome.

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There is one way that they can get the boys out once they find them and as long as the passageway is large enough for two people with scuba tanks on to be able to fit through together then the navy divers could clip 1 of the boys to him with the boy facing the diver and swim out together, much like the buddy system that is used in parachuting. There are 11 boys and 1 coach and there are 18 navy divers. These are navy seals which like the American seals and the Australian clearance divers they are the best of the best, so get them in there and find those boys.

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2 hours ago, Wilsonandson said:

Come on, today they have to do all they can to get to these boys. Big fingers crossed they are still alive and well.

RE- Come on, today they have to do all they can to get to these boys.

 

With ref to the last photo - if the hands were out of the trouser pockets and the texting could come to an end then the focus could arrive back to were it should….

 

Finger Crossed that this will end well!

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How on earth could caving be preparation for a football match, which is what they are claiming ?

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I think they need to change the sign from July to June for safety reasons because anyone new to the area could also get trapped in late June

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