rooster59 Posted June 30, 2018 Share Posted June 30, 2018 Amlo seizes 134 million baht in bank accounts of 4 senior monks in temple fund scandal The Anti-Money Laundering Office (Amlo) has sequestered about 134 million baht in bank accounts of four former senior monks implicated in the temple fund embezzlement scandal. According to Amlo website, the seized cash deposits and bank accounts included: seven bank accounts worth 132 million baht of Phra Phrommasith, former abbot of Wat Saket; one bank account worth 162,151.76 baht of Phra Phrommethi, former assistant abbot of Wat Sam Phraya; one bank account worth 1,745,953.37 baht of Phra Phromdilok, former abbot of Wat Sam Phraya and one bank account worth 27,876.08 baht of Phra Vichitthammaporn, former assistant abbot of Wat Saket. It also ordered the seizure of the 100th year building under the name of Dhammakaya Foundation and Thammasith Foundation located on the compound of Wat Dhammakaya in Pathum Thani province after it was found that the money used to build the building was embezzled from Credit Union Klongchan Cooperatives by Supachai Srisupa-aksorn, former chairman of the cooperatives who was a faithful follower of Phra Dhammachayo, former abbot of the temple. Full story: http://englishnews.thaipbs.or.th/amlo-seizes-134-million-baht-bank-accounts-4-senior-monks-temple-fund-scandal/ -- © Copyright Thai PBS 2018-06-30 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Odysseus123 Posted June 30, 2018 Share Posted June 30, 2018 134 million baht...a tidy sum. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
colinneil Posted June 30, 2018 Share Posted June 30, 2018 Surely cannot be correct, monks live in poverty, never touch money, only live on food/ money donated by poor destitute people. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rodney earl Posted June 30, 2018 Share Posted June 30, 2018 Why does this not surprise me. All religions are about 3 things and 3 things only MONEY, POWER AND CONTROL OF THE POPULATION!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Odysseus123 Posted June 30, 2018 Share Posted June 30, 2018 Just now, colinneil said: Surely cannot be correct, monks live in poverty, never touch money, only live on food/ money donated by poor destitute people. Agreed Colin-thin as rakes the whole lot of them! All this reminds me of the Catholic church in the late middle ages-a career,wealth and power. I guess the little guys at the bottom might be a bit different.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hummin Posted June 30, 2018 Share Posted June 30, 2018 2 minutes ago, rodney earl said: Why does this not surprise me. All religions are about 3 things and 3 things only MONEY, POWER AND CONTROL OF THE POPULATION!!! First of all, Buddhism is not about religion, but I can aggree Thai practice Buddhism close to be a religion. However, Im just surprised people do not wake up, and realize they are being scammed by any powerful instutution claiming they make you to a better person by paying for salvation, luck and be free of guilt. Have to believe in stupid rituals and practise them as well obey people who think they are higher than you. Gold and fancy clothes will always have a huge controlling effect on people! Well enough for today, but Im very impressed by people who wants and need to believe in people who claim they have higher connections. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
worgeordie Posted June 30, 2018 Share Posted June 30, 2018 I thought it would be a whole lot more,maybe they have not found all the accounts. regards Worgeordie Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rkidlad Posted June 30, 2018 Share Posted June 30, 2018 34 minutes ago, Hummin said: First of all, Buddhism is not about religion, but I can aggree Thai practice Buddhism close to be a religion. However, Im just surprised people do not wake up, and realize they are being scammed by any powerful instutution claiming they make you to a better person by paying for salvation, luck and be free of guilt. Have to believe in stupid rituals and practise them as well obey people who think they are higher than you. Gold and fancy clothes will always have a huge controlling effect on people! Well enough for today, but Im very impressed by people who wants and need to believe in people who claim they have higher connections. Buddhism is a religion. You don't need a god to make it a religion. If you're looking to live by a set of rules, make up your own using common sense and empathy. Genuinely good people don't need a form of badge to tell others they're decent. They just are. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hummin Posted June 30, 2018 Share Posted June 30, 2018 26 minutes ago, rkidlad said: Buddhism is a religion. You don't need a god to make it a religion. I will give you the right to believe that! God bless you Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kannot Posted June 30, 2018 Share Posted June 30, 2018 1 hour ago, Odysseus123 said: 134 million baht...a tidy sum. tiniest tip of the worlds biggest iceberg........GUARANTEED!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kannot Posted June 30, 2018 Share Posted June 30, 2018 7 minutes ago, Hummin said: I will give you the right to believe that! God bless you and all who sail in you Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lanista Posted June 30, 2018 Share Posted June 30, 2018 I am seriously considering going into the monk business. Thats where the money is, not exports or imports. Shave your head, put on some orange robes, walk around with a shoulder bag and Bobs your uncle ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hummin Posted June 30, 2018 Share Posted June 30, 2018 15 minutes ago, lanista said: I am seriously considering going into the monk business. Thats where the money is, not exports or imports. Shave your head, put on some orange robes, walk around with a shoulder bag and Bobs your uncle ! No comment because of fair use clause! I will let each one of you make up your own mind! But hey, <deleted> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rkidlad Posted June 30, 2018 Share Posted June 30, 2018 58 minutes ago, Hummin said: I will give you the right to believe that! God bless you the belief in and worship of a god or gods, or any such system of belief and worship: It’s not a belief to be held. It’s a fact. Opinions don’t change facts, and beliefs should always be personal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
overherebc Posted June 30, 2018 Share Posted June 30, 2018 2 hours ago, rodney earl said: Why does this not surprise me. All religions are about 3 things and 3 things only MONEY, POWER AND CONTROL OF THE POPULATION!!! You missed the most important one 'more money.' Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hummin Posted June 30, 2018 Share Posted June 30, 2018 4 minutes ago, rkidlad said: the belief in and worship of a god or gods, or any such system of belief and worship: It’s not a belief to be held. It’s a fact. Opinions don’t change facts, and beliefs should always be personal. What fact? Im not arguing your view, please do not try to push your view on me. I say it is not a religion, based on what I have learned and from what I can read! So I guess I cant claim it is my personal view, since many have found the same answer based on their view of facts! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rkidlad Posted June 30, 2018 Share Posted June 30, 2018 2 minutes ago, Hummin said: What fact? Im not arguing your view, please do not try to push your view on me. I say it is not a religion, based on what I have learned and from what I can read! So I guess I cant claim it is my personal view, since many have found the same answer based on their view of facts! Again, it’s not my view. You can claim anything you want. You can claim that 1+1 is 3. That doesn’t change the fact that it’s not and your ‘view’ is incorrect. Again, opinions don’t change facts. You’re welcome to believe in whatever you want. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LomSak27 Posted June 30, 2018 Share Posted June 30, 2018 2 hours ago, Odysseus123 said: 2 hours ago, colinneil said: Surely cannot be correct, monks live in poverty, never touch money, only live on food/ money donated by poor destitute people. Agreed Colin-thin as rakes the whole lot of them! All this reminds me of the Catholic church in the late middle ages-a career,wealth and power. I guess the little guys at the bottom might be a bit different.. Given my feelings about organized religion, I would generally agree with you ..........BUT This is the temple/sect that Thais who used to be red supporters are overwhelmingly members of. Given the governments fear of these people, they could be totally guilty, or completely innocent. After all we get no FACTS, that can be verified. And so it goes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hummin Posted June 30, 2018 Share Posted June 30, 2018 7 minutes ago, rkidlad said: . You can claim that 1+1 is 3. That doesn’t change the fact that it’s not and your ‘view’ is incorrect. Come on, is that your best shot? You claim philosophy as whole is religion as well? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rkidlad Posted June 30, 2018 Share Posted June 30, 2018 Just now, Hummin said: Come on, is that your best shot? You claim philosophy as whole is religion as well? You’re conflating ideas, views and opinions with facts. Buddhism is a religion. I don’t claim that. It’s not for me to claim. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Odysseus123 Posted June 30, 2018 Share Posted June 30, 2018 12 minutes ago, LomSak27 said: Given my feelings about organized religion, I would generally agree with you ..........BUT This is the temple/sect that Thais who used to be red supporters are overwhelmingly members of. Given the governments fear of these people, they could be totally guilty, or completely innocent. After all we get no FACTS, that can be verified. And so it goes. I agree with your statement in lots of ways.Things are decidedly opaque when reporting "facts" in Thailand. Nevertheless,I am astonished to see the wealth lavished on temples here altho' not half so astonished as when I walked into the cathedral in Toledo,Spain and saw the gold sweated and plundered from the inhabitants of Central and South America in the 16th-17th centuries. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hummin Posted June 30, 2018 Share Posted June 30, 2018 5 minutes ago, rkidlad said: You’re conflating ideas, views and opinions with facts. Buddhism is a religion. I don’t claim that. It’s not for me to claim. Using the word facts in these days is kind of odd, especially when speaking about something that is impossible to prove, because it is peoples opinions, and not proved facts. Is philosophers religious leaders as well? Was Budda a philosophy teacher, who founded a later religion, since his followers worship him, then I can aggree, it is a religion, but as Budda teaching, it is a philosophy, not a religion! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LomSak27 Posted June 30, 2018 Share Posted June 30, 2018 Oh by the way there was a great article about this Temple/sect/abbot in the NYT .... but you can't read it here it was blocked. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rkidlad Posted June 30, 2018 Share Posted June 30, 2018 4 minutes ago, Hummin said: Using the word facts in these days is kind of odd, especially when speaking about something that is impossible to prove, because it is peoples opinions, and not proved facts. Is philosophers religious leaders as well? Was Budda a philosophy teacher, who founded a later religion, since his followers worship him, then I can aggree, it is a religion, but as Budda teaching, it is a philosophy, not a religion! Again, I’m not debating you over personal opinions. That’s a waste of time as it’s subjective and I’d rather deal in facts. Buddhism is a religion. Using an exclamation point doesn’t change that. Here’s a great example; 1+1 is 3! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hummin Posted June 30, 2018 Share Posted June 30, 2018 7 minutes ago, rkidlad said: Again, I’m not debating you over personal opinions. That’s a waste of time as it’s subjective and I’d rather deal in facts. Buddhism is a religion. Using an exclamation point doesn’t change that. Here’s a great example; 1+1 is 3! It is a cheap very cheap example of destrying your arguments in a silly way! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rkidlad Posted June 30, 2018 Share Posted June 30, 2018 2 minutes ago, Hummin said: It is a cheap very cheap example of destrying your arguments in a silly way! I have zero arguments to be made. I’m simply reciting a fact. You’re the one refuting it. The best way to show you how silly that is is to use a very simple analogy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vacuum Posted June 30, 2018 Share Posted June 30, 2018 3 hours ago, worgeordie said: I thought it would be a whole lot more,maybe they have not found all the accounts. Maybe they didn't disclosed all their seizures..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
peperobi Posted June 30, 2018 Share Posted June 30, 2018 Wow, somebody can explain the difference between the Vatican and that kind of Buddism? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hummin Posted June 30, 2018 Share Posted June 30, 2018 1 minute ago, peperobi said: Wow, somebody can explain the difference between the Vatican and that kind of Buddism? Vatican have one leader below god, buddhism have no centralized leadership, even som countries have tried or claimed such power. Many small chiefs for the poeople, or as my gf say, many different companies. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mok199 Posted June 30, 2018 Share Posted June 30, 2018 straight to jail,do not pass go and do not collect 100 dollars.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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