EricTh Posted July 2, 2018 Share Posted July 2, 2018 Has anyone used a Hatari or Panasonic fan? Preferably wall-mounted but standing is ok. Which is better in terms of durability and quietness while sleeping. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
impulse Posted July 2, 2018 Share Posted July 2, 2018 I've had a Hatari for 6 years and I just clean the blades and spray WD40 into the bearings once or twice a year. (Yes, I know WD40 isn't a lubricant. But it does dissolve a little of the grease in the sintered bearings and 6 years on, so far, so good) There are Hatari replacement motors and blades available all over Thailand, and you can even get the motors rewound in the BangMo area of Chinatown. Besides, at $20-40, it's not worth a lot of effort to fix (or just clean) them as opposed to replacing them with a shiny new one. I have to look at the blades to see if it's turned on. It's that quiet. All that said, it's still just a cheap fan... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
worgeordie Posted July 2, 2018 Share Posted July 2, 2018 Go with Panasonic,if you regularly maintain them they will last a long time,had 3 for it must be 25 years,just dismantle them give the blades,fan cover a good wash, put Singer oil into the bearings back and front,they will last. I have also had Hatari ,but over time they just failed,one after just a couple of months,the whole fan part just snapped off.brought a couple home from one of our rentals,that the tenant had left,press No1, fans hardly move,No3 will be the same as No 1 on a Panasonic,thats after cleaning them and oiling them,as they were actually seized up. regards worgeordie Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EricTh Posted July 2, 2018 Author Share Posted July 2, 2018 11 hours ago, worgeordie said: Go with Panasonic,if you regularly maintain them they will last a long time,had 3 for it must The strange thing is that Homepro, Big C, Powerbuy don't sell Pana fan. Do you know where I can buy one in CM? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sfokevin Posted July 3, 2018 Share Posted July 3, 2018 8 hours ago, EricTh said: The strange thing is that Homepro, Big C, Powerbuy don't sell Pana fan. Do you know where I can buy one in CM? You can order for easy COD delivery... https://www.lazada.co.th/shop-fans/panasonic/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jonwilly Posted July 3, 2018 Share Posted July 3, 2018 Try a Vertical Fan, very quite on it's slowest speed. I have a German Tefal and am pleased to recommend. john Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
worgeordie Posted July 3, 2018 Share Posted July 3, 2018 Just ordered another Panasonic wall fan off Lazada, C.O.D, 1,175 THB,which is a good price. regards worgeordie Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stubby Posted July 3, 2018 Share Posted July 3, 2018 I had a Hatrai for 10 years before the motor started to slow. Couldn't fault it, so I replaced it with an even bigger, better model. The new one has its own cockpit, but it's not quiet. But then neither are air-cons, barking dogs, cockerels, and all those other noises of the nigh in Thailand. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dellboy218 Posted July 3, 2018 Share Posted July 3, 2018 5 minutes ago, Stubby said: I had a Hatrai for 10 years before the motor started to slow. Couldn't fault it, so I replaced it with an even bigger, better model. The new one has its own cockpit, but it's not quiet. But then neither are air-cons, barking dogs, cockerels, and all those other noises of the nigh in Thailand. Common failure isn't the motor but 70 Bahts worth of capacitor connected to the motor. I have a ceiling fan with that problem on one speed setting and somewhen soon it will need one of the capacitors changed. Don't throw the fan out it might be a cheap fix! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stubby Posted July 3, 2018 Share Posted July 3, 2018 1 minute ago, Dellboy218 said: Common failure isn't the motor but 70 Bahts worth of capacitor connected to the motor. I have a ceiling fan with that problem on one speed setting and somewhen soon it will need one of the capacitors changed. Don't throw the fan out it might be a cheap fix! I already have Dellboy. I gave it to the BIG C boys to take away. They seemed more than happy, and despite its age it still looked almost new. Oh well, if the new one lasts as long it'll probably outlive me ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Puwa Posted July 4, 2018 Share Posted July 4, 2018 Try to find one with mechanical pushbuttons or better yet a knob you turn to select the speed. Electronic buttons on fans tend to fail long before the fan itself. Or use a remote control. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EricTh Posted July 5, 2018 Author Share Posted July 5, 2018 On 7/4/2018 at 7:36 AM, Puwa said: Try to find one with mechanical pushbuttons or better yet a knob you turn to select the speed. Electronic buttons on fans tend to fail long before the fan itself. Or use a remote control. Isn't a remote control the same as electronic buttons? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
johng Posted July 5, 2018 Share Posted July 5, 2018 I've had good service ( more than 10 years) from 2 cheap "Imarflex" pedestal fans. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Puwa Posted July 5, 2018 Share Posted July 5, 2018 1 hour ago, EricTh said: Isn't a remote control the same as electronic buttons? No, a remote control is used remotely, as in without one touching the fan itself. Remotes are easily replaced. By electronic buttons I mean little plastic buttons connected to a circuit board on the body of the fan. Even fans with good quality motors often come with cheap buttons and boards that malfunction after repeated use in a humid climate. My best fan is a newish, standing Mitsubishi with 3 old-fashioned pushbuttons. No beeps and no LEDs and no problems. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ignis Posted July 5, 2018 Share Posted July 5, 2018 quietness then do not buy Hatari, have a few and all VERY noisy ........ have a 16" + 3 x 18" + a 20" and a 25" the big one not used as problems from 1st month, in the 1st year was returned 3 times, + 2 x other repair shops have so say repaired it, still the same and has sat in one of the bedrooms unused for past 4+ years.. the Hitachi Fan I found is the best for quietness and have in my bedroom.. the Panasonic before that lasted about 6 years.. [2 x Air Con Panasonic work fine and are 15 years old next month] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ks45672 Posted July 5, 2018 Share Posted July 5, 2018 Buy industrial models they're really worth the money I have a few imerflex 18" that have been running non stop for about 7 years... https://www.lazada.co.th/products/imarflex-if-442-18-i160522986-s193304260.html?spm=a2o4m.pdp/revamp.recommendation_1.1.1ecb26602eCVOD&mp=1&scm=1007.16389.99110.0&clickTrackInfo=c21b6583-a058-4f70-b3cb-01b7e51f137b__160522986__3893__1 And if you need something more serious get one of these in 22" : https://www.lazada.co.th/products/hatari-22-it22m1-silver-grey-i160523891-s193305165.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stuartd1 Posted July 5, 2018 Share Posted July 5, 2018 They're selling the new bladeless Dyson fan with air filters at Festival now. Nearly 30k but might be worth it if you have problems with the atmosphere here, and very quiet with programmable swing. Thinking about it! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stargazer9999 Posted July 6, 2018 Share Posted July 6, 2018 If you're looking for a quiet fan I would recommend you buy anything but the Hatrai fans. They're usually sold at the lowest price at Tesco/Lotus and many other stores. They also tend to get noisy quickly especially the left to right movement controller. The only good news is that they can be repaired for about 300 baht at most corner repair shops and it will run quietly again. I keep swearing I won't buy another one then somehow end up with another beast but at least I now know how easy it is to keep them running quietly when they 'do their Harari thing'. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peasandmash Posted July 6, 2018 Share Posted July 6, 2018 LOL! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cmsally Posted July 6, 2018 Share Posted July 6, 2018 Have a 20yr old Hitachi fan. Looks like the plastic casing will disintegrate before the inner parts go wrong. Still really quiet. Because its the oldest it is the dogs personal fan. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thian Posted July 7, 2018 Share Posted July 7, 2018 Panasonic is much better than Hatari. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
konisaan Posted July 8, 2018 Share Posted July 8, 2018 Tefal make a 4-speed fan that has a quiet setting which is just slower than the normal lowest speed you find on other fans which are nearly all 3 speed. Of course on the quiet setting it's going to push less air. I found mine upstairs at Siam TV. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chingmai331 Posted July 9, 2018 Share Posted July 9, 2018 Turn the Hatari rotate button to OFF, then the bad noise stops. In fact i have 2 same models of Hatari and one is certainly quieter than that other. Variable quality, no doubt. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stargazer9999 Posted July 10, 2018 Share Posted July 10, 2018 I should have mentioned that I generally use my Hatari fans for many hours on end with the rotate left/right button turned on. So that's probably a lot of wear and tear and may not be what most people put them through. I will say that any other brand of fan I've used besides Hatari seems to last longer before having noise problems. I think it's a 'you get what you pay for' issue. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bluewavesam Posted July 11, 2018 Share Posted July 11, 2018 Got 2 Panasonic and so far, so good. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EricTh Posted July 11, 2018 Author Share Posted July 11, 2018 I asked the salesguy at Global House and he said that only Hatari has ball bearings in its motor. No other brand uses ball bearings. He said the ball bearing will make the motor more durable and quiet. He also said that Hatari has a factory in CM for repairs whereas Panasonic need to go to Bangkok for repairs. Hatari specialises in making fans , he said. Can anyone confirm this? PS: Global House do sell Panasonic fans. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
johng Posted July 11, 2018 Share Posted July 11, 2018 On 7/6/2018 at 6:15 AM, stuartd1 said: Dyson fan with air filters at Festival now. Nearly 30k Ridiculously expensive for a fan...yes amazing how it works..but come on silly money.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
johng Posted July 11, 2018 Share Posted July 11, 2018 6 hours ago, EricTh said: only Hatari has ball bearings in its motor Yes not many use proper ball bearings..I only ever came across one but can't remember the brand name. Id say that the capacitor or the motor windings ( due to fluff and gunk + moisture) go before the brass bearings..and if you occasionally oil ( not WD40) the brass bearings they can last a good long wile. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FolkGuitar Posted July 12, 2018 Share Posted July 12, 2018 On 7/2/2018 at 11:52 AM, impulse said: I've had a Hatari for 6 years and I just clean the blades and spray WD40 into the bearings once or twice a year. (Yes, I know WD40 isn't a lubricant. But it does dissolve a little of the grease in the sintered bearings and 6 years on, so far, so good) With all due respect, WD-40 IS a lubricant. It is Mineral Oil mixed with Stoddard Solvent. The solvent thins the oil which allows it to penetrate and displace water, then the solvent evaporates leaving a coating of the oil. Mineral Oil is the base oil of the majority of non-grease, non-synthetic lubes on the market today. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
taotoo Posted July 12, 2018 Share Posted July 12, 2018 3 hours ago, FolkGuitar said: With all due respect, WD-40 IS a lubricant. It is Mineral Oil mixed with Stoddard Solvent. The solvent thins the oil which allows it to penetrate and displace water, then the solvent evaporates leaving a coating of the oil. Mineral Oil is the base oil of the majority of non-grease, non-synthetic lubes on the market today. Doesn't it attract the fluff and gunk referred to though? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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