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BANGKOK 22 March 2019 02:41
freddel08

Denied at DMK because too many visas on arrival

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Hi there,

 

I'm staying in for 18 months with only visas on arrival+extensions doing visa run away every two months.

 

I'm financial analyst and manage for my own saving. Since I don't any commercial activities in Thailand and that I'm 40 years old the touristic visa fit my particular situation. I knew that I could apply for elite visa but I'm not sure that i will stay 5 years in this country.

 

Last week, I did a visa runaway to Penang in Malaysia and when I came back via DMK the immigration officer told me that "you have too many touristic visas you should come back with at least non immigrant B visa" . I've tried to explain that I didn't work in Thailand but it seems that they didn't understand or didn't want to understand that I was living on my saving.

 

They also asked me "show me pocket money": hopefully I had 600 euros and 4000THB cash on me and I also showed them my Thai bank card (by the way they have noted my bank account numbers.. ? On the paper titled "Notification to control Prohibited Person" they have written in Thai denied because "he doesn't have money" . Which is not true since I showed them that i had cash with me

 

Then I've spent 18 hours in deportation room with 20 gentlemen. The next day I was escorted by two agents to the back of the plane. When we landed in Penang the staff took me to the Malaysian border where they gave me back my passport. Surprisingly, the Malaysian immigration was quite friendship and they told me "we are sorry but it happens every days since a few months".

 

In Penang I've applied for tourist visa that I received the next with the mention written in red:

1. "EMPLOYMENT PROHIBITED"

2. "The holder of this passport travels to Thailand under a tourist visa several times which may result in refusal of visa in the future"

 

Now with those remarks I don't want to take the risk to be denied a second time... this experience was both annoying and humiliating. I understand that I've used too many visa on arrival but I think they could warn me before to arrive that point.

 

Now what would be the solution for me to recover safely all my belonging, my car and pay my bills in Bangkok?

 

1. Should I order a new passport? Would it show up in their system that I was denied?

 

2. Or should I try to use my current visa tourist going through a land border?

 

Thank you for your help

 

Cheers

Fred

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Getting a new passport would definitely be helpful. Many on here say it won't help because the officers can see on the computer your history. But it will help in getting a tourist visa in the region and my experience is that officers flick through the passport to see your previous entries.

 

Get a tourist visa from Savannakhet or your home country (where is your home country?).

 

Consider flying into Malaysia or Laos from your home country and then using a land border to enter Thailand. Carry at least the cash equivalent of 20,000 Baht and a return ticket to your home country within 60 days.

 

It is interesting to note that the vast majority of these stories involve people flying in from nearby Asian countries. I don't recall somebody being sent back to a European destination but I am sure there have been.

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i would use the current tourist visa to enter via a land border.  then get a new passport.  then use tourist visas on all future entries.  immigration flags people with too many visa exempt entries (6 is the 'too many' mark).  you should try to spend some time outside the country btwn entries so authorities are not suspicious of you working here.

 

i spent approx 8 months a year in thailand for 10 years, starting when i was 40.  i turned 50 last year and got the non imm O visa/retirement extension.  it is harder to do now.  if you really want to stay in thailand long term, the thai elite visa is the best method.

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6 minutes ago, mekko said:

18 hours is a long wait. Was there any choice in when/where you'd return to? Presuming it was AA, I'd sure as hell opt for one of the hourly KL flights than wait around for the AirAsia flight to Penang, as I think it's returned to same country not same destination? were you charged for the flight? did you have access to your phone to lookup flights? 

 

You could fly into Chiang Mai, Hat Yai or even Phuket next time, or use a land border. 

 

 

No apparently you have to fly back from where you came from, which was in my case Penang and the next fly was the next day. Also, I had a business man from Malaysia that was denied from the same flight (as well for too many tourist visas), he wasn't allowed to fly earlier via Kuala Lumpur.

 

And yes you have to book yourself for the flight.

 

 

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2 minutes ago, buick said:

you should try to spend some time outside the country btwn entries so authorities are not suspicious of you working here.

This is not required as long as he gets all his TV's from Laos and uses a land border to cross back into Thailand, getting TV's from Vientiane and crossing through the Nong Khai border is the best option for this, 3-5 TV's can be obtained from Vientiane (usually 4) before he gets the "red stamp" after that it has been said that Savanakhet will still issue TV's

 

People are proving to Immigration at the Airport that they are not working here but are still being denied, it seems once their mind is made up that is it no matter what you show them

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12 minutes ago, darrendsd said:

People are proving to Immigration at the Airport that they are not working here but are still being denied, it seems once their mind is made up that is it no matter what you show them

Yes they didn't want to listen to me but also I don't know if it relevant but I was dressed casual with sneakers, jeans and T-shirt. I guess that the clothes may do the man

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39 minutes ago, buick said:

i would use the current tourist visa to enter via a land border.  then get a new passport.  then use tourist visas on all future entries.  immigration flags people with too many visa exempt entries (6 is the 'too many' mark).  you should try to spend some time outside the country btwn entries so authorities are not suspicious of you working here.

 

i spent approx 8 months a year in thailand for 10 years, starting when i was 40.  i turned 50 last year and got the non imm O visa/retirement extension.  it is harder to do now.  if you really want to stay in thailand long term, the thai elite visa is the best method.

I will do a new passport, apply for tourist visa again and entry by land border from Laos or Malaysia...

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41 minutes ago, freddel08 said:

Yes they didn't want to listen to me but also I don't know if it relevant but I was dressed casual with sneakers, jeans and T-shirt. I guess that the clothes may do the man

As you said there was also a businessman denied who I suspect was dressed reasonably ok?

 

If you were to turn up in rags yes this would probably be a issue however personally I don't think it matters how you dress as long as you look reasonably ok, as I said once they decide then that's pretty much it

 

 

 

 

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43 minutes ago, freddel08 said:

I will do a new passport, apply for tourist visa again and entry by land border from Laos or Malaysia...

are you saying you will not use the tourist visa you recvd (along with the 'red stamp') for an entry via land border ?

 

i never recvd the stamp but it is worth a try to enter via the land border with malaysia (i assume you are in malaysia now, maybe not).  then get a new passport while you are in thailand (i assume you can access your embassy here in thailand).  i think some embassies require a police report for a lost/stolen passport in order to get a new passport.  maybe others can assist with that if you go that route.

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Ed visa...but you have way too long till you are 50.

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