TonyClifton Posted July 6, 2018 Share Posted July 6, 2018 The Thais are building the new BTS extensions with the cooperation from an Italy Company. If they don't want to do that by themselves, they should turn over this rescue to people who know what they are doing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jenny2017 Posted July 6, 2018 Share Posted July 6, 2018 11 hours ago, tropo said: They do have a backup plan. Move them to a higher spot and wait until the end of the monsoon period. There are only 3 options: 1. Diving them out 2. Drilling them out 3. Waiting IMO, it seems that they are already at the highest spot in the whole cave. How can they "wait" if the water level is rising up to the area where they're currently sitting? One diver's already dead. How many more have to die? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tropo Posted July 6, 2018 Share Posted July 6, 2018 18 minutes ago, sanemax said: They had an air supply pipe installed yestoday Sorry, I didn't see any report about that or that the caves cannot completely flood. This is a BBC report from 7 hours ago, so they also didn't get it: "But however much they pump out, the water is being fed by sinkholes and streams in the hills above and when monsoon rains arrive, there is the chance the space they are living in could flood completely" "There are concerns about the level of oxygen in the air in the space where the boys are trapped. Officials said the level of oxygen in the air had fallen to 15%. The usual level is 21%" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tropo Posted July 6, 2018 Share Posted July 6, 2018 Just now, jenny2017 said: IMO, it seems that they are already at the highest spot in the whole cave. How can they "wait" if the water level is rising up to the area where they're currently sitting? One diver's already dead. How many more have to die? It does seem that the waiting option is not as safe as we were first led to believe. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chickenslegs Posted July 6, 2018 Share Posted July 6, 2018 4 minutes ago, jenny2017 said: IMO, it seems that they are already at the highest spot in the whole cave. How can they "wait" if the water level is rising up to the area where they're currently sitting? One diver's already dead. How many more have to die? There is a real dearth of information about the flooding possibilities in the area where the boys have been found (Mrs C tells me that the mound of sand/rock is called "mother's tit" due to its shape), but it is not the highest spot. According to an earlier report, this "mother's tit" area can be flooded up to the ceiling, but there are other caverns which are never flooded. http://www.nationmultimedia.com/detail/national/30349044 From the above link - “My personal view is that the missing team will be at the end of the cave because it is the safest spot due to its height and there is no history of flooding there,” The problem is that the caverns that "never flood" are further away from the cave entrance and not easily acessible. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fish Head Soup Posted July 6, 2018 Share Posted July 6, 2018 55 minutes ago, chickenslegs said: There is a real dearth of information about the flooding possibilities in the area where the boys have been found (Mrs C tells me that the mound of sand/rock is called "mother's tit" due to its shape), but it is not the highest spot. According to an earlier report, this "mother's tit" area can be flooded up to the ceiling, but there are other caverns which are never flooded. http://www.nationmultimedia.com/detail/national/30349044 This has been the elephant in the room since they were found. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tropo Posted July 7, 2018 Share Posted July 7, 2018 15 hours ago, chickenslegs said: The problem is that the caverns that "never flood" are further away from the cave entrance and not easily acessible. 2 Also "never flood" means there is no record or indication of previous flooding, not that it cannot happen. Information on this distant area of the cave is limited. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jenny2017 Posted July 7, 2018 Share Posted July 7, 2018 1 minute ago, tropo said: Also "never flood" means there is no record or indication of previous flooding, not that it cannot happen. Information on this distant area of the cave is limited. "Never flood" doesn't exist at a place that isn't accessible at certain times. Water always finds its way. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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