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'Not Working' – Doubts Raised Over Tham Luang Cave Rescue Plan


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11 hours ago, tropo said:

They do have a backup plan. Move them to a higher spot and wait until the end of the monsoon period.

 

There are only 3 options:

 

1. Diving them out

2. Drilling them out

3. Waiting

 

 

IMO, it seems that they are already at the highest spot in the whole cave. How can they "wait" if the water level is rising up to the area where they're currently sitting? One diver's already dead. How many more have to die? 

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18 minutes ago, sanemax said:

They had an air supply pipe installed yestoday

Sorry, I didn't see any report about that or that the caves cannot completely flood. This is a BBC report from 7 hours ago, so they also didn't get it:

 

"But however much they pump out, the water is being fed by sinkholes and streams in the hills above and when monsoon rains arrive, there is the chance the space they are living in could flood completely"

 

"There are concerns about the level of oxygen in the air in the space where the boys are trapped. Officials said the level of oxygen in the air had fallen to 15%. The usual level is 21%"

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Just now, jenny2017 said:

IMO, it seems that they are already at the highest spot in the whole cave. How can they "wait" if the water level is rising up to the area where they're currently sitting? One diver's already dead. How many more have to die? 

It does seem that the waiting option is not as safe as we were first led to believe.

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4 minutes ago, jenny2017 said:

IMO, it seems that they are already at the highest spot in the whole cave. How can they "wait" if the water level is rising up to the area where they're currently sitting? One diver's already dead. How many more have to die? 

There is a real dearth of information about the flooding possibilities in the area where the boys have been found (Mrs C tells me that the mound of sand/rock is called "mother's tit" due to its shape), but it is not the highest spot.

 

According to an earlier report, this "mother's tit" area can be flooded up to the ceiling, but there are other caverns which are never flooded. http://www.nationmultimedia.com/detail/national/30349044

 

From the above link - “My personal view is that the missing team will be at the end of the cave because it is the safest spot due to its height and there is no history of flooding there,”

 

The problem is that the caverns that "never flood" are further away from the cave entrance and not easily acessible.

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55 minutes ago, chickenslegs said:

There is a real dearth of information about the flooding possibilities in the area where the boys have been found (Mrs C tells me that the mound of sand/rock is called "mother's tit" due to its shape), but it is not the highest spot.

 

According to an earlier report, this "mother's tit" area can be flooded up to the ceiling, but there are other caverns which are never flooded. http://www.nationmultimedia.com/detail/national/30349044

 

This has been the elephant in the room since they were found.

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15 hours ago, chickenslegs said:

 The problem is that the caverns that "never flood" are further away from the cave entrance and not easily acessible.

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Also "never flood" means there is no record or indication of previous flooding, not that it cannot happen. Information on this distant area of the cave is limited.

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1 minute ago, tropo said:

Also "never flood" means there is no record or indication of previous flooding, not that it cannot happen. Information on this distant area of the cave is limited.

"Never flood" doesn't exist at a place that isn't accessible at certain times. 

 

  Water always finds its way. 

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