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Thai business owners who think they own the public road

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37 minutes ago, markaoffy said:

They own the sidewalks unless "the law" removes them temporarily. then they return. If a "member of the public" push any of their "fake Junk or poisoned food stand' to get by, then you could be subject to verbal or physical abuse.You'll never change attitude here in a million years

They own the sidewalks?????

 

I don't think so.....Where did you got this information?

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13 minutes ago, Lacessit said:

Life is too short for me to worry about where I park my car.

See how laid back you are when you come back and find it keyed or tyres flat.

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1 hour ago, giddyup said:

See how laid back you are when you come back and find it keyed or tyres flat.

Has this ever happened to anyone personally?..... Not a friend of mine stories...... 

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8 hours ago, Trujillo said:

Is that an actual photo of you in your avatar? 

 

Did you explain the law to them in Thai? If not, you might as well be clucking like a chicken for all the good it would do you. 

 

Having said that, I feel your pain. At some point, however, you should understand that your car will be "keyed" by someone, or your tires slashed. Just FYI.

The saying <deleted> for brains comes to mind. Not you the shop owners

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Chiang Mai has heaps of this going on when we were there for a few years - and wife reckoned they pay police/amphur official for the 'privilege'. 

 

I suggest OP stop this practice and let it go, or he may one day be the subject of a TV story.  Asking for trouble often gets it in Thailand.

 

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Well GOM, obviously you love your car. It's at least your 2nd car post, or 3rd , 4th?

 

Did you ever reply to questions arising from your post about why you've been stopped every day in your car? I think not, but I could be wrong. 

 

This new one is even weirder. Yes CM is a bit different from Lough Ness.

 

The CM forum has been quiet for a long time; do you have  a vested interest in these inanities?

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Thai business owners, ....ha, ha,..... all business owners. Even RETOX on Soi Lenkee has signs

posted, customer parking only. That said I do believe the LK Metro loop is a private road owned by

the LK family business empire. They would be in the right to collect a parking fee or rent the road

space out to food carts. Just don't die defending your parking space right. 

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9 hours ago, cmsally said:

I would say not totally the fault of the business owners. Whoever invented the ubiquitous shophouse really counted on the fact that each unit would have to use the street in order to survive. So the planning dept is just as much to blame.

Planning dept? You are joking of course, there is no such thing as planning dept.

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In Chiang Mai what the point you will be having this fight every time you wish to park. Stay below the radar what is the point of pissing off a bunch of people

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7 hours ago, seancbk said:

If I owned or rented a shop I would consider the parking out front to be mine.   

 

If? Maybe   best  luck  you do not ! 

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As many have said, you are thinking with your anger, planning for confrontations, and you will indeed get them regularly. Eventually you will bite off more than you can chew.

 

Right or wrong, is this an issue worth the sacrifice of your daily equanimity?

 

Smile and the world smiles with you. Fight and the world..............

 

If I parked in the same places regularly here is how I would approach it. Talk to each owner and request to 'rent' each place for 50 ฿ per month. I bet they would remove the chairs for you every time you drive up and also guard your car.

 

Rewarding bad behavior? Yes. But also making my life more stress free for a pretty small price and also making some new friends.

 

You will not change Thai society or culture by challenging it. That task is up to them.

Drop the whole "grumpy" gig and seek joy, not trouble.

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As  of today  have had a repeat  issue with this problem . A  certain nation wide company  with a distribution centre  in an inappropriate commercial  street location expects exclusive access  to  parking space to accommodate  an  articulated 8  wheeler truck ,delivery  vans  and  motorcycle   sidecar  seller units over parking space of not  less  than  40 metres for  a duration  of  2 hours at a time that  is  random.

In  the  same direct  area are  two Banks,  2 Medical   Clinics ,  4 Food / Restaurants and  various other small retail outlets.

Multiple  times  I  have  parked in a spot that is not  convenient for  them at  least  1  hour  before their anticipated  delivery in  order to  attend  one  of these medical  clinics. 

Initial  reaction to  my  "ignorance"  was  quite  aggressive. So was  my  refusal !

I pretended  to  call  the  Police. There  was  an instantaneous  departure  of  many of  the minor players. The instigators became  sullenly  silent. 

I offered  the solution that THEY  secure  me an alternative  parking  space convenient  to myself. They  did.

And  so  it  continues.  Same  or similar  scenario. 

Today  in anticipation I  approached  them. Solution rapidly accommodated. Appreciatively.

But it  still irks me that a  business that is based in a location  that relies on tactics  of  intimidation to  the  general public at  inconvenience  to other  retail  or  valid  business should  have expectation  of  such  "right" to commandeer casual street  parking  space.

What   makes  it  ridiculous  is  that the  "agents"  of  this  Company  were relieved at  the  outcome which  made  their  task easier ( with   no impact  on  employment  status? ) as  well as being  cognisant  of  the  reason not  just  myself  needed  to park  in  the  area.

I  would  add  that I have never  been treated as some ignorant  "farang" but  only  as an ignorant to their  perception of "right". I  can  confirm  that  due to  observation  reaction  to  Thai people  who  also  park in  same  spaces.

 

 

 

 

 

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16 minutes ago, RocketDog said:

As many have said, you are thinking with your anger, planning for confrontations, and you will indeed get them regularly. Eventually you will bite off more than you can chew.

 

Right or wrong, is this an issue worth the sacrifice of your daily equanimity?

 

Smile and the world smiles with you. Fight and the world..............

 

If I parked in the same places regularly here is how I would approach it. Talk to each owner and request to 'rent' each place for 50 ฿ per month. I bet they would remove the chairs for you every time you drive up and also guard your car.

 

Rewarding bad behavior? Yes. But also making my life more stress free for a pretty small price and also making some new friends.

 

You will not change Thai society or culture by challenging it. That task is up to them.

Drop the whole "grumpy" gig and seek joy, not trouble.

Rubbish !

That  supports the acquiensence of  thaksinites!

 

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23 minutes ago, RocketDog said:

If I parked in the same places regularly here is how I would approach it. Talk to each owner and request to 'rent' each place for 50 ฿ per month. I bet they would remove the chairs for you every time you drive up and also guard your car.

I like your post, but here you are dreaming..:)

 

50 Baht per month?? Maybe 20 years ago.

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