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10 Million Baht Investment Visa - Fixed Deposit

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5 hours ago, ubonjoe said:

That is different category of investment.

The 10 million one is shown in clause 2.5 of Police Order 327/2557  basis for extension of stay.

Thank you for the clarification.

 

I guess the 10m investment visa is like some countries that grant you a visa to stay when you buy a condo (like UAE or Malaysia).

 

 

Although I'm unsure of the benefit of investing 10m in a low yield account as opposed to a higher yield account and then buying the 1m Thailand Elite.

 

(except perhaps as part of a diversification strategy)

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15 minutes ago, JayBird said:

Although I'm unsure of the benefit of investing 10m in a low yield account as opposed to a higher yield account and then buying the 1m Thailand Elite.

It does not have to be in a low yield account. The only requirement is that it never goes below 10 million baht. It can also be in government or state enterprise bonds that might give a higher return.

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If you have a 10 million baht condo why sell it to put the money in a Thai bank account to earn very little interest when you could just rent the condo out for maybe 40k baht a month and keep the investment visa. If i am correct at 40k a month on 10 million condo then that would be 480,000 a year, minus communal fees and agents fees etc you should clear 4%. What do the banks pay in interest ?

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Based upon experience:

 

(1) It has to be a Thai government bank, e.g. Krung Thai.

 

(2) When it comes to rolling over a fixed deposit that may, or may not be accepted.  In my case, after a few rollovers Immigration decided that the money hadn't been permanently in an account (even though the rollover was done on the same day), and so refused to extend my extension of stay.  I suspect a factor may have been that that year I was eligible for an extension of stay based upon retirement.

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47 minutes ago, Oxx said:

Based upon experience:

 

(1) It has to be a Thai government bank, e.g. Krung Thai.

 

(2) When it comes to rolling over a fixed deposit that may, or may not be accepted.  In my case, after a few rollovers Immigration decided that the money hadn't been permanently in an account (even though the rollover was done on the same day), and so refused to extend my extension of stay.  I suspect a factor may have been that that year I was eligible for an extension of stay based upon retirement.

Rollover as in automatic renewal of fd?

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1 hour ago, johnson36 said:

If you have a 10 million baht condo why sell it to put the money in a Thai bank account to earn very little interest when you could just rent the condo out for maybe 40k baht a month and keep the investment visa. If i am correct at 40k a month on 10 million condo then that would be 480,000 a year, minus communal fees and agents fees etc you should clear 4%. What do the banks pay in interest ?

Im currently getting 4.1-4.3% from malaysian banks fd, but very interested in thai fd rate

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40 minutes ago, nzdpower said:

Rollover as in automatic renewal of fd?

 

With most banks here fixed deposits get rolled over to a 3 month fixed deposit with pretty poor interest rates.  For me, I arranged for the deposits to be transferred to my savings account upon maturity, and then reinvested in a 3 year (or similar) fixed deposit.  

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On 7/15/2018 at 8:49 AM, ubonjoe said:

Yes it would be accepted. It could even be in one where you incur penalties for early withdrawal that normally pay the highest interest.

Just be sure the it is in bank before the condo sale is finalized.

How can you have the money before the sale is completed surely it goes to the lawyers first?

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1 hour ago, Oxx said:

 

(1) It has to be a Thai government bank, e.g. Krung Thai.

When was that?

It does not state that on the requirements in clause 2.5 of the police order.

"4) Must have evidence of investing in the form of a fixed deposit of no less than Baht 10 million with a bank which is registered in Thailand and has Thai nationals holding more than 50 percent"

 

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28 minutes ago, ubonjoe said:

When was that?

It does not state that on the requirements in clause 2.5 of the police order.

"4) Must have evidence of investing in the form of a fixed deposit of no less than Baht 10 million with a bank which is registered in Thailand and has Thai nationals holding more than 50 percent"

 

I also read that it need to be thai bank during my research

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46 minutes ago, nzdpower said:

I also read that it need to be thai bank during my research

Of course.

But it does specify it has to be in government bank was my point.

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5 hours ago, Oxx said:

Based upon experience:

 

(1) It has to be a Thai government bank, e.g. Krung Thai.

 

(2) When it comes to rolling over a fixed deposit that may, or may not be accepted.  In my case, after a few rollovers Immigration decided that the money hadn't been permanently in an account (even though the rollover was done on the same day), and so refused to extend my extension of stay.  I suspect a factor may have been that that year I was eligible for an extension of stay based upon retirement.

Am I reading this correct - Ubonjoe is saying as long as the funds appear in a bank book and never goes below 10 million baht, but It can also be in government or state enterprise bonds - Then you should get the Investment Visa.

 

However it seems what you are saying is that you were refused an extension even though you had these aspects all covered.

 

I understand that the rollover might be a judgement that for a fraction of time (seconds, mins, hours) since it wasn't continuously there - But then surely wouldn't it be accepted at the time since it was then actually in the account at the application time for applying for the visa?

 

I know that you were making an extension and not an application - But looking at the only qualifications as defined by UbonJoe couldn't you make a new application (rather than extend)?

 

Or possibly I am missing something - Is there some min time for (both) extending and applying (similar to that required for a retirement Visa funds in an account for applying / extending)?

 

But even if there was this requirement in the case of the Investment Visa - Then application for the Retirement would fail since similarly the same argument would be used that rollover had caused the funds not to be in the account for 2 months (in the case of a new application)?

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Oxx, which immigration office was it that you had your negative experience with?

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the problem with THB fixed deposit is that the thai baht is going to depreciate in value in 

the next few months.

so i your base currency is USD, you might lose even 10% on your investment in thai currency (THB/USD

rate should be around 35-37 in few months to a year).

 

interesting to mention, that cambodia gives 6-8% annual return on FD in USD !!

MIN. amount can be 3000-4000 USD !!

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4 hours ago, jerry921 said:

Oxx, which immigration office was it that you had your negative experience with?

 

Chaengwattana.  Incidentally, there had been pressure the previous year to get me off an investment visa onto a retirement visa the previous year.  I'm guessing it's policy (or at least was a few years ago).

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