webfact Posted July 16, 2018 Share Posted July 16, 2018 Mu Pa boys will grow up to work for country’s benefit, says Dr Pak The rescued Mu Pa Academy football footballers and their assistant coach are aware of and have expressed their gratitude to those who made sacrifices to rescue them from Tham Luang cave in Chiang Rai, says an Army doctor who played a leading role in helping the boys. “I’m confident that the Mu Pa boys will grow up to be excellent citizens of the country and work for the benefits of the country’s future and reputation,” wrote Dr Pak Loharnchun in a Facebook post. Pak praised assistant coach Ekkapol Chantawong for having "a good heart" and having made sacrifices to help and comfort the boys during their entrapment. The doctor, who has multiple certifications including for SEAL operations, joined the footballers in the cave after they were discovered by British divers on July 2, and remained with them until the last of them were extracted on July 10. Pak says the innocence and optimism of the boys impressed him, as did their remaining in high spirits during the time of crisis. “I was told that after they were trapped inside the cave … every day they used pieces of rock to dig to find a way out despite having no food. The hole they dug was quite deep, about five metres.” They were also disciplined, collecting their rubbish and placing it in a black bag, he wrote. They also listened to Ekkapol and followed his instructions, the doctor wrote. He told them not to pick up things or remove anything from the cave. Ekkapol, 25, was the eldest of those rescued, with the rest aged 11 to 16. “I secretly noticed since day one that the coach would make sure that the boys ate first and he usually gave his portion to the boys,” the doctor said. “I’m confident of the coach’s excellent care of the boys before they were located, as their mental and physical conditions were way better than I had expected,” Pak said. Some netizens have criticised Ekkapol for leading the boys into the cave where they became trapped on June 23 when the water quickly rose after flash floods. However many others have given him their moral support, while encouraging him not to blame himself. The doctor also posted photos of him hugging goodbye with the boys in Chiangrai Prachanukroh Hospital in Chiang Rai where they received medical care after being rescued from the cave. Pak and other SEALs were discharged on Sunday while the boys are scheduled to be discharged on Thursday. Meanwhile Chiang Rai’s new Governor Prajon Pratsakul yesterday presided over a religious rite in front of the cave. The rite, attended by Buddhist monks, made merit for Lt-Commander Saman Kunan, the only fatality in the 17-day rescue operation. Phra Rattanamunee, a Chiang Rai chief monk, told parents of the footballers attending the event that the boys should enter the monkhood so that they could review their recent past and learn how to control their thoughts. “If they know how to leave things behind and how to use concentration, they will effectively walk to the right path in the future,” the monk said. A preliminary plan would see them ordained on July 27 at a Chiang Rai temple in Mae Sai district and remain in the monkhood for nine days. Source: http://www.nationmultimedia.com/detail/national/30350196 -- © Copyright The Nation 2018-07-16 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hellstens Posted July 16, 2018 Share Posted July 16, 2018 In my opinion, the coach is the real hero in this almost happy ending story. Just sad one loses his life doing it, RIP. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris Lawrence Posted July 16, 2018 Share Posted July 16, 2018 What I am scared of is that the big boys in Bangkok will manipulate the situation to their benefit. General stand up for these lads and show them that you can be a true leader, not a leech like some others in the Government. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jingthing Posted July 16, 2018 Share Posted July 16, 2018 So much pressure to be this or that just based on the random fate of what happened to them. Perhaps they should all enter a witness protection program so they can get on with their lives without being pigeonholed this way? Just kidding. It's inevitable. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KiwiKiwi Posted July 16, 2018 Share Posted July 16, 2018 What a lot of nonsense. Just one more Thai doctor clamouring for his 15 minutes of attention. This tragic story has as much chance of making these lads good and upright citizens as it does making them fly to the moon and back. This time next year it'll all be forgotten in favour of the next smartphone or motorcycle street racing. Gawd, why does every half-assed ignoramus have to climb all stuff like this just to get their name in print and curry favour with whoever? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Small Joke Posted July 16, 2018 Share Posted July 16, 2018 22 minutes ago, Chris Lawrence said: What I am scared of is that the big boys in Bangkok will manipulate the situation to their benefit. General stand up for these lads and show them that you can be a true leader, not a leech like some others in the Government. You can be sure some unpalatable official news was 'buried' during the saga. Some grubs in the west tried this (but were outed) during 9/11/2001. The cave story almost eclipsed the Phuket Boat tragedy. So yeah. Skulduggery aplenty went unnoticed we can be sure. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Small Joke Posted July 16, 2018 Share Posted July 16, 2018 15 minutes ago, KiwiKiwi said: What a lot of nonsense. Just one more Thai doctor clamouring for his 15 minutes of attention. This tragic story has as much chance of making these lads good and upright citizens as it does making them fly to the moon and back. This time next year it'll all be forgotten in favour of the next smartphone or motorcycle street racing. Gawd, why does every half-assed ignoramus have to climb all stuff like this just to get their name in print and curry favour with whoever? Yup, they're milking this story till it squeaks because let's face it, there's not much else to smile about in LOS of late. The Aussie press made sure to put the boot into the fact that the country is still not free, and the military govt trying to take some reflected credit via the professionalism and valour of the SEALS. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
webfact Posted July 16, 2018 Author Share Posted July 16, 2018 “Doctor Pak” in emotional reunion with Wild Boars boys By Thai PBS There was an emotional scene when Lt Col Dr Pak Loharnchun, a military doctor better known as “Mor Pak”, visited the 12 young footballers and their coach in a happy reunion at Chiang Rai Prachanukroh Hospital. Pak and four members of the SEAL unit stayed with the young survivors from the day they were found and were among the last to leave the cave after the rescue operation ended successfully. He and the children met for the first time after they were brought out of the cave one July 10. Full story: http://englishnews.thaipbs.or.th/doctor-pak-emotional-reunion-wild-boars-boys/ -- © Copyright Thai PBS 2018-07-17 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aforek Posted July 16, 2018 Share Posted July 16, 2018 14 hours ago, KiwiKiwi said: May be , not sure Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
happy chappie Posted July 16, 2018 Share Posted July 16, 2018 Loads of people and monks performing rites or voodoo rituals as I would call it.no mention of sticking some safety gates up though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scott Posted July 16, 2018 Share Posted July 16, 2018 14 hours ago, KiwiKiwi said: What a lot of nonsense. Just one more Thai doctor clamouring for his 15 minutes of attention. This tragic story has as much chance of making these lads good and upright citizens as it does making them fly to the moon and back. This time next year it'll all be forgotten in favour of the next smartphone or motorcycle street racing. Gawd, why does every half-assed ignoramus have to climb all stuff like this just to get their name in print and curry favour with whoever? 13 hours ago, Small Joke said: Yup, they're milking this story till it squeaks because let's face it, there's not much else to smile about in LOS of late. The Aussie press made sure to put the boot into the fact that the country is still not free, and the military govt trying to take some reflected credit via the professionalism and valour of the SEALS. You are welcome to either read the OP and comment accordingly or to move on. The doctor in question was in the cave with the boys. This is from the OP: The doctor, who has multiple certifications including for SEAL operations, joined the footballers in the cave after they were discovered by British divers on July 2, and remained with them until the last of them were extracted on July 10. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Credo Posted July 16, 2018 Share Posted July 16, 2018 It's still being covered in the US press, including the Evening News. It's not a big story, but the situation with the recovery of the boys still garners interest among those that followed it. It seems that people get upset when a story is dropped and no updates are given, then they get upset when there are updates. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KiwiKiwi Posted July 17, 2018 Share Posted July 17, 2018 47 minutes ago, Credo said: It's still being covered in the US press, including the Evening News. It's not a big story, but the situation with the recovery of the boys still garners interest among those that followed it. It seems that people get upset when a story is dropped and no updates are given, then they get upset when there are updates. *shrug* It's in the nature of the press corps that hen there's nothing else of importance, fluff pieces like this run and run. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hobobo Posted July 17, 2018 Share Posted July 17, 2018 1 hour ago, KiwiKiwi said: *shrug* It's in the nature of the press corps that hen there's nothing else of importance, fluff pieces like this run and run. And KiwiKiwi gets his name in the (TV) press countless times... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sweatalot Posted July 17, 2018 Share Posted July 17, 2018 3 hours ago, KiwiKiwi said: As I would call it too. Buddhism, like common-or-garden Christianity is more or less pure superstition. you are not talking about Buddhism, you are talking about common Buddhism, which is not Buddhism Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
manhood Posted July 17, 2018 Share Posted July 17, 2018 Ekkapol Chantawong shows to the Thai Nation and their leaders how a 25 yo young man can be a respected person by the way he his leading them and what he did for them!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Just all the ones having their face for some minutes in the cameras are the once who can learn from that guy. If i would have a business here i would directly hire him with the potential he has you can be sure he can step into a good future while getting a good education but not from these closed minded, selfish guys you have mostly around as teachers or monks or whatever !!!!!!!!!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DM07 Posted July 17, 2018 Share Posted July 17, 2018 “I’m confident that the Mu Pa boys will grow up to be excellent citizens of the country and work for the benefits of the country’s future and reputation,” wrote Dr Pak Loharnchun in a Facebook post" Blahblahblah...nationalistic sugarcoated claptrap... 4 of the boys are not even citizens yet, because Thailand's abysmal politics when it comes to the hilltribes and refugees of all kinds! And what is the base for this assertion? That they were trapped in a cave? I am really happy, they are out and I am really sad for the life lost! But I don't get the hype! Sorry...I don't! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billd766 Posted July 17, 2018 Share Posted July 17, 2018 8 hours ago, webfact said: “Doctor Pak” in emotional reunion with Wild Boars boys By Thai PBS There was an emotional scene when Lt Col Dr Pak Loharnchun, a military doctor better known as “Mor Pak”, visited the 12 young footballers and their coach in a happy reunion at Chiang Rai Prachanukroh Hospital. Pak and four members of the SEAL unit stayed with the young survivors from the day they were found and were among the last to leave the cave after the rescue operation ended successfully. He and the children met for the first time after they were brought out of the cave one July 10. Full story: http://englishnews.thaipbs.or.th/doctor-pak-emotional-reunion-wild-boars-boys/ -- © Copyright Thai PBS 2018-07-17 I am a bit confused here. IIRC the doctor who stayed with the boys and followed them out was an Australian who was a skilled diver and also a cave diver. Quote from Thai PBS "Pak and four members of the SEAL unit stayed with the young survivors from the day they were found and were among the last to leave the cave after the rescue operation ended successfully." I understand that the Thai SEALs were there and I believe that there was a Thai Navy nurse as well. BUT PBS goes on to say quote "He and the children met for the first time after they were brought out of the cave one July 10." I cannot understand how the doctor was with them all the time yet he first met them AFTER they were brought out of the cave. Either he was with them all the time or he wasn't. If the Thai doctor was with them all the time, then where was the Australian doctor all of the time? With the boys or somewhere else? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sheryl Posted July 17, 2018 Share Posted July 17, 2018 4 minutes ago, billd766 said: I am a bit confused here. IIRC the doctor who stayed with the boys and followed them out was an Australian who was a skilled diver and also a cave diver. Quote from Thai PBS "Pak and four members of the SEAL unit stayed with the young survivors from the day they were found and were among the last to leave the cave after the rescue operation ended successfully." I understand that the Thai SEALs were there and I believe that there was a Thai Navy nurse as well. BUT PBS goes on to say quote "He and the children met for the first time after they were brought out of the cave one July 10." I cannot understand how the doctor was with them all the time yet he first met them AFTER they were brought out of the cave. Either he was with them all the time or he wasn't. If the Thai doctor was with them all the time, then where was the Australian doctor all of the time? With the boys or somewhere else? It was a Thai doctor who went in, along with 3 Navy Seals, from when the boys were first discovered and stayed with them round the clock until they were all rescued. There is also an Australian doctor who is a specialist in dive medicine who went in to clear the boys medically for the rescue on the day before it began, gave input into the rescue plan, and may have gone in each day of the rescue to again assess the boys and prepare them. Two doctors, somewhat different roles. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billd766 Posted July 17, 2018 Share Posted July 17, 2018 2 minutes ago, Sheryl said: It was a Thai doctor who went in, along with 3 Navy Seals, from when the boys were first discovered and stayed with them round the clock until they were all rescued. There is also an Australian doctor who is a specialist in dive medicine who went in to clear the boys medically for the rescue on the day before it began, gave input into the rescue plan, and may have gone in each day of the rescue to again assess the boys and prepare them. Two doctors, somewhat different roles. Thank you Sheryl. Now you can see why I was confused. However if the Australian doctor had gone in every day he would have an 11 hour journey each time plus the time assessing the boys. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
toofarnorth Posted July 17, 2018 Share Posted July 17, 2018 Just maybe Vern would like to see them but alas no chance now ,1 bad apple and all that , from you know who , smells a bit like a rat . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billd766 Posted July 17, 2018 Share Posted July 17, 2018 3 hours ago, toofarnorth said: Just maybe Vern would like to see them but alas no chance now ,1 bad apple and all that , from you know who , smells a bit like a rat . Why do you think Vern would not be allowed to see them. If the boys and their are happy with that I don't see any problem. The only rat was Elon Musk. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chama Posted July 17, 2018 Share Posted July 17, 2018 On 7/16/2018 at 5:09 AM, Chris Lawrence said: What I am scared of is that the big boys in Bangkok will manipulate the situation to their benefit. General stand up for these lads and show them that you can be a true leader, not a leech like some others in the Government. If they don't it will be a break from their normal approach to activities in the Kingdom, they are responsible for all good and victims of all evil that transpires in the Kingdom....surely you know that? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chama Posted July 17, 2018 Share Posted July 17, 2018 This doctor is one of the many heroes in this story. He volunteered to stay in a very uncomfortable place to care for some people that really needed him and his skills. As far as the coach...this doctor's opinion is far more valuable than those offered by people that were not in that cave. He saw the interactions between coach and the team, he saw how the coach responded to a very desperate situation and has the expertise to see the results. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
balo Posted July 17, 2018 Share Posted July 17, 2018 11 hours ago, billd766 said: However if the Australian doctor had gone in every day he would have an 11 hour journey each time plus the time assessing the boys. That's not what happened. My understanding is the Australian doctor went in twice , the last time they agreed on the dosage for each boy when they were sedated . He also might have instructed the Thai Navy Seal doctor who stayed with them all the time how to do it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billd766 Posted July 18, 2018 Share Posted July 18, 2018 10 hours ago, balo said: That's not what happened. My understanding is the Australian doctor went in twice , the last time they agreed on the dosage for each boy when they were sedated . He also might have instructed the Thai Navy Seal doctor who stayed with them all the time how to do it. I can understand that but to me it wasn't that clear. https://www.bbc.com/news/world-australia-44855187 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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