snoop1130 Posted July 16, 2018 Share Posted July 16, 2018 Happy resolution for soldier who cried fowl By JITRAPORN SENWONG THE NATION A PRIVATE who mustered the courage to speak up against his superior at a military camp has found a way out of abusive treatment and an unreasonable assignment to tend to nearly 100 chicken and fighting cocks of a senior military officer. After posting an 11-minute video clip on his Facebook about his assignment and complaining about being slapped, this private said on Facebook: “What will be, will be”, in anticipation of consequences arising from his complaint. But Army chief General Chalermchai Sittisart, who was alerted to the case, has made sure the private has returned to his original unit without suffering any repercussions. “The only person to have a problem is the one who got him to do such a mission,” said the General. He emphasised that Senior Army officials needed to seek permission from their superiors before they could use soldiers for personal matters. Chalermchai said each unit’s commander has the discretion to decide whether it is appropriate and necessary to use soldiers for personal tasks. Senior officers were expected to know what is and is not appropriate or acceptable in the modern world and social context, he said. Chalermchai’s comment follows the release of the video clip, showing an unnamed private complaining about having been assigned to raise a superior’s 100 chickens and fighting cocks. The private alleges that after he was drafted to serve at the Thanarat Infantry Camp in Prachuap Khiri Khan, he had to live in unhygienic conditions while raising the chickens. If he failed to meet the unidentified superior’s expectations, he faced a rude scolding and face slapping, the private said in the video. Chalermchai said he was waiting for the official results from a fact-finding probe. Disciplinary action would follow if the probe found that inappropriate behaviour had taken place, he added. “Don’t assume this will affect the whole force’s image. What is done by an individual is an individual's matter,” Chalermchai said. Assignments to help on public or private tasks must be appropriate and in line with the unit’s existing manpower [so the main missions are unaffected], while the assigned soldiers must be briefed about it beforehand, he added. Srisuwan Janya, the secretary-general of the Association to Protect the Thai Constitution, said in a statement that he would file a complaint on the issue today with the National Anti-Corruption Commission, the Office of the Ombudsman and the National Human Rights Commission. Srisuwan said he wanted to see concrete solutions to prevent the abuse of any more subordinates by officers. Asked about the pending complaint, Chalermchai said it was within Srisuwan’s right to proceed. Army spokesman Colonel Winthai Suvaree had initially said that the private had volunteered to do a favour for the officer. On Sunday, however, he said that a fact-finding probe had found grounds suggesting that there had been an inappropriate task assignment. The unit was considering disciplinary action against the officer in question, while the private was moved back to his original unit without being punished, Winthai said. Anti-corruption activist Veera Somkwamkid, meanwhile, posted to his Facebook page that there was no law to support military officers forcing privates to do labour at their homes. Veera urged the Army to punish the officer, warning that Winthai’s “favour doing” comment might be a criminal offence involving covering up another person’s wrongdoing. He also urged the Defence Minister to review the actions of the army chief and the private’s supervisor to ensure there is no attempt to cover up the officer’s wrongdoing. Source: http://www.nationmultimedia.com/detail/national/30350194 -- © Copyright The Nation 2018-7-16 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
coulson Posted July 16, 2018 Share Posted July 16, 2018 44 minutes ago, snoop1130 said: He also urged the Defence Minister to review the actions of the army chief and the private’s supervisor to ensure there is no attempt to cover up the officer’s wrongdoing. You're barking up the wrong tree Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tifino Posted July 16, 2018 Share Posted July 16, 2018 ah! so that's how they do it... ... Officers are hatched Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YetAnother Posted July 16, 2018 Share Posted July 16, 2018 1 hour ago, snoop1130 said: Senior officers were expected to know what is and is not appropriate or acceptable in the modern world and social context, he said. garbage, these are the very people that champion this system Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
happy chappie Posted July 16, 2018 Share Posted July 16, 2018 Lived across the road from a barracks and seen it with my own eyes,face slapping and using them as slaves.feel sorry for the boys really as most of them don't want to be there in the first place. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
darksidedog Posted July 16, 2018 Share Posted July 16, 2018 2 hours ago, snoop1130 said: the private was moved back to his original unit without being punished, Winthai said. However, a series of highly unfortunate events can not be ruled out in the future. Telling tales on superiors who are taking the piss surely can't be allowed to go unpunished? The very cornerstones and fabric of Thai society could crumble and be torn overnight. I suspect we haven't heard the last of this little drama and the private should probably avoid potentially good spots for an unexpected suicide. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
greenchair Posted July 16, 2018 Share Posted July 16, 2018 Wouldn't surprise me if this young man had an accident a year or two from now. Best of luck to him. What's really annoying is the top brass don't see any problem with hi so officers taking tax paid soldiers and using them for personal house maids. The article basically says it's fine, but be careful what jobs you make the helper do. Also those fighting roosters are traditionally used for gambling in Thailand, so another case of, it's ok for us but not you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cornishcarlos Posted July 16, 2018 Share Posted July 16, 2018 8 hours ago, snoop1130 said: “The only person to have a problem is the one who got him to do such a mission,” said the General. Mission !! I guess that's a missiony as it gets for these boys ?? Mission Cock Watch ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
George Bowman Posted July 17, 2018 Share Posted July 17, 2018 10 hours ago, snoop1130 said: He emphasised that Senior Army officials needed to seek permission from their superiors before they could use soldiers for personal matters. I lived in Sammakorn Village in Bangkok for many years. In this neighborhood there are three lakes with the usual upmarket and older extravagant houses overlooking the water. One residence had Thai Army soldiers working around the place for at least a year or so. And they did a good job, the house and grounds look nice. This house is probably worth about B40-50 million and I can’t really say who lives there. But it couldn’t have been a senior army officer as a general only makes B50,000 or so per month. I have witnessed this sort of behavior before. It appears as though a few Thais treat Thailand as their own personal one stop-one store playground. They have a grab what they want and go type of attitude. Every country in the World has these types of people. But Amazing Thailand seems to have more than their fair share.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
klauskunkel Posted July 17, 2018 Share Posted July 17, 2018 "Senior officers were expected to know what is and is not appropriate or acceptable in the modern world and social context media, he said." 12 hours ago, snoop1130 said: Don’t assume this will affect the whole force’s image Currently I have several visuals of the Thai army's image, neither one is suitable for posting... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lupatria Posted July 17, 2018 Share Posted July 17, 2018 Slave Soldiers In Thailand https://zway2go.com/s-s/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
seajae Posted July 17, 2018 Share Posted July 17, 2018 Unfortunately there is a superiority complex amongst some thai people, have seen a few officers expect everyone else treat them as superiors, even farangs. They received rude shocks when told to go <deleted> themselves, afraid respect is earned not an automatic assumption on their part. A soldier is not a personal slave as many thais officers presume, until such time as these people are made to understand this it will continue but I am sure this will come back in some way on this soldier for making a higher up lose face, the armed forces in Thailand need a complete make over like the police to remove all the crap as there is just so much of it in them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PETERTHEEATER Posted July 17, 2018 Share Posted July 17, 2018 He emphasised that Senior Army officials needed to seek permission from their superiors before they could use soldiers for personal matters.... It would seem that the permission of superiors is easily granted. What used to be my local gas station was manned by Thai Army personnel for years being located on the corner of a main road and the entrance to a military controlled site. Most were fed up with their lot, pumping gas instead of soldiering but were assigned to do so. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chama Posted July 17, 2018 Share Posted July 17, 2018 21 hours ago, YetAnother said: garbage, these are the very people that champion this system But why pass up an opportunity to portray oneself as a champion of good? Just incase you need to lead a junta one day. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eric Loh Posted July 17, 2018 Share Posted July 17, 2018 When asked, the frog disguised as the deputy PM said this “ junior soldiers might be “willingly borrowed from other units to voluntarily serve their seniors”. Is this guy hilarious or what. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tryasimight Posted July 17, 2018 Share Posted July 17, 2018 1 hour ago, Eric Loh said: When asked, the frog disguised as the deputy PM said this “ junior soldiers might be “willingly borrowed from other units to voluntarily serve their seniors”. Is this guy hilarious or what. One of you are. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lamyai3 Posted July 18, 2018 Share Posted July 18, 2018 On 7/16/2018 at 8:19 PM, snoop1130 said: Happy resolution for soldier who cried fowl Good headline - I was ready to cry foul myself till I read the story Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wilsonandson Posted July 18, 2018 Share Posted July 18, 2018 Raising your superiors cocks? The things you have to do in the military these days. 'Don't ask, don't tell' policy should be inplemented to stop this sort of thing coming out. It's the last thing you want to come across, a private and sticky matter.Sent from my SM-A700FD using Thailand Forum - Thaivisa mobile app Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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