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Shock as Trump backs Putin on election meddling at summit

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Just now, Chomper Higgot said:

It’s not a ‘US v Russia’ paradigm, it’s matter of a confirmed attack by Russia on the US election.

 

No it's not. Russia, USA and others constantly do this. It is using a minor issue, which had NO effect on the election, as a political tool for 2020.

 

You are locked into that 'reds under the bed' paradigm and I can understand why. Americans are fed that stuff from 1 year old up.  I don't deny Russia 'did it' and I know USA 'does it' and what?

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6 minutes ago, BobBKK said:

 

Did you read Rosenstein's statement?

 

"We follow the rule of law, which means that we follow procedures and reserve judgment. We complete our investigations and we evaluate all of the evidence before we reach any conclusion."

and

"There is no allegation in this indictment that any American citizen committed a crime. There is no allegation that the conspiracy changed the vote count or affected any election result."




  

The two statements by Rosenstein are not inconsistent.

 

The investigation is not yet complete, the indictments are against Russians but mention stolen data handed to (un-named) Americans.

 

That these Americans are not named in this indictment does not mean they will not be subject to a seperate indictment

- Receiving stolen materials from a foreign agency interfering in the US election suggests they might be.

 

A question to you:

 

Do you support the continuation of the ‘Mueller’ investigation?

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15 minutes ago, BobBKK said:

Did you read Rosenstein's statement?

 

"We follow the rule of law, which means that we follow procedures and reserve judgment. We complete our investigations and we evaluate all of the evidence before we reach any conclusion."

and

"There is no allegation in this indictment that any American citizen committed a crime. There is no allegation that the conspiracy changed the vote count or affected any election result."
  

 

What has that got to do with anything I wrote?  Maybe instead of quoting entire posts, you should quote the line you are referring to.

 

Are you saying that, because Russian interference was unsuccessful, that it was therefore just fine?  Crimes are crimes, but attempted crimes are no big deal?  Is that it?

 

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"Shock as Trump backs Putin..."

No, no shock. He's backed Putin from the beginning. Better headline might be

" Shock Disgust as Trump backs Putin..."

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1 hour ago, BobBKK said:

... This is all dirty tricks designed to influence 2020.

Oh... so the Dems are now, suddenly over losing in 2016 then?

 

Better check with dcutman. Looks like he's still following yesterday's script.

 

2 hours ago, dcutman said:

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Give me a break, its all about butt hurt lefty libs looking to place blame for loosing to Trump, anywhere but on themselves.

 

 

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1 hour ago, BuaBS said:

Trump had a great meeting with Putin because the media and the global elite (and people on this forum) are hysterical. These are the same people who have enabled terrorism to flourish, unlimited wars, condemned generations to poverty, stolen prosperity & misinform the public to control outcomes.

Trump 2020 .

We get it.  Trump could get on his knees and give Putin a BJ right there on stage and Trump supporters will still back him.  Well figuratively, that's pretty much what Trump did.  Trump is a traitor and a coward.  He should be impeached immediately. 

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Haul his fat @$$ back to the US and impeach him immediately, this mockery of a presidency has gone on long enough!

Already the damage done will take years - if not decades  - to repair.

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Just now, Chomper Higgot said:

The two statements by Rosenstein are not inconsistent.

 

The investigation is not yet complete, the indictments are against Russians but mention stolen data handed to (un-named) Americans.

 

That these Americans are not named in this indictment does not mean they will not be subject to a seperate indictment

- Receiving stolen materials from a foreign agency interfering in the US election suggests they might be.

 

A question to you:

 

Do you support the continuation of the ‘Mueller’ investigation?

 

I think it's a waste of time but continue, why not?  let's see if ANY Americans are charged with collusion ok? 

 

It's not 'did Russians meddle', of course they did, as does the USA or you think it's ok for USA but not Russia?  give it a break

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1 minute ago, BobBKK said:

 

 

 

It's not 'did Russians meddle', of course they did, as does the USA or you think it's ok for USA but not Russia?  give it a break

Donald Trump disagrees with you.

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Intelligence chief Coats defends finding that Russia meddled in the election

 

The U.S. director of national intelligence is defending American spies’ assessment that Russia interfered in the 2016 election — a push back against President Donald Trump, who appeared to indicate Monday that he believes Russian leader Vladimir Putin's denials on the matter.

"The role of the Intelligence Community is to provide the best information and fact-based assessments possible for the president and policymakers," said Coats, who took over as U.S. director of national intelligence in March 2017. "We have been clear in our assessments of Russian meddling in the 2016 election and their ongoing, pervasive efforts to undermine our democracy, and we will continue to provide unvarnished and objective intelligence in support of our national security."

https://www.politico.com/story/2018/07/16/coats-russia-meddling-trump-putin-724373

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Just now, bristolboy said:

Donald Trump disagrees with you.

 Neither Putin nor Trump nor ANY Russian nor American will ever admit to spying, meddling or interference they are ALL liars.  BTW way as pro-choice, pro-rights and pro-weed don't put me in the 'Trump bag' as he's a megalomaniac but I hate the hypocrisy.  This noisy, interference BS strategy will not get rid of Trump.

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Just now, bristolboy said:

Intelligence chief Coats defends finding that Russia meddled in the election

 

The U.S. director of national intelligence is defending American spies’ assessment that Russia interfered in the 2016 election — a push back against President Donald Trump, who appeared to indicate Monday that he believes Russian leader Vladimir Putin's denials on the matter.

"The role of the Intelligence Community is to provide the best information and fact-based assessments possible for the president and policymakers," said Coats, who took over as U.S. director of national intelligence in March 2017. "We have been clear in our assessments of Russian meddling in the 2016 election and their ongoing, pervasive efforts to undermine our democracy, and we will continue to provide unvarnished and objective intelligence in support of our national security."

https://www.politico.com/story/2018/07/16/coats-russia-meddling-trump-putin-724373

 

https://www.nytimes.com/2018/02/17/sunday-review/russia-isnt-the-only-one-meddling-in-elections-we-do-it-too.html

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2 minutes ago, BobBKK said:

 Neither Putin nor Trump nor ANY Russian nor American will ever admit to spying, meddling or interference they are ALL liars.  BTW way as pro-choice, pro-rights and pro-weed don't put me in the 'Trump bag' as he's a megalomaniac but I hate the hypocrisy.  This noisy, interference BS strategy will not get rid of Trump.

Yes, Trump's believing of Putin over U.S. intelligence agencies is guaranteed to win him a lot of votes. In Moscow.

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