cyborgx Posted July 17, 2018 Share Posted July 17, 2018 Musk for whatever reason offered something expensive and spent time and money trying to help. Yes, he got publicity out of it, but it was a nice gesture. I have no idea how tight the caves were, only the divers know the exact situation, but to dismiss it out of hand and seemingly rudely was not nice. Musk's knee-jerk reaction was TOTALLY out of order and went too far wit the insult, and it will very likely cost him a lot of money. Bottom line it was a bit of hand-bag like squabbling, and both could have and should handled it better. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FitnessHealthTravel Posted July 17, 2018 Share Posted July 17, 2018 Nothing new for him, this happens all the time. His shareholders are very used to him mouthing off. No news here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thingamabob Posted July 17, 2018 Share Posted July 17, 2018 Musk is full of s..t, as are his products. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
atyclb Posted July 17, 2018 Share Posted July 17, 2018 if musk knew he'd be facing tv backlash he surely would have never tweeted those things Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wealthychef Posted July 17, 2018 Share Posted July 17, 2018 4 hours ago, webfact said: Tesla shares were at $307.20 in after-hours trading on Monday from Friday’s close of $318.87. When shares fall for a reason like this, it's a buy signal to savvy investors. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
africasiaeuro Posted July 17, 2018 Share Posted July 17, 2018 Defenders of Vern should say : Let him prove his innocence in a clear yes or no statement. On the other hand Musk could prove his Minisub wasn't a PR stunt that may bring 10000 jobs for Thailand. Which is of more essence - the pedo or the Minisub? If I was the Thai government, I'd choose the Minisub over the Pedo statement. Maybe it's time the Thai authorities add their voice to this impasse. To be most grateful to the British diver is one thing they already proved by giving them an Elite card each. Best solution for all: Let Musk and Vern bury their grievances and concentrate on the essential things. Shake hands a la Trump - Putin style. P.M. Prayut invites both to sit on a table and the world watches a friendly handshake. Not too difficult if you think. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
terryofcrete Posted July 17, 2018 Share Posted July 17, 2018 3 hours ago, Fairynuff said: Some people just don’t know when to shut up would you send a reminder to Trump as well ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hooliganzone Posted July 17, 2018 Share Posted July 17, 2018 He did not only defamate Vernon Unsworth but he also said badly and unjustified all the British men who live in Thailand as sex child tourists, so i hope gets sued more than once and he can also stick his electric car in the same place as his submarine they should fit easily after all he is a big Ar----le. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mekko Posted July 17, 2018 Share Posted July 17, 2018 He messed up, we all do now and again - in different shades of gray, put those stones back down. Perhaps, he was tired and irritable, he made a visit to China for a number of days after Thailand which probably didn't help, whilst the same time managing three demanding companies Tesla, Boring Company and SpaceX, and bucket load of people disparaging him on possible production delay and people calling the whole cave trip a PR stunt. Perhaps he even had a drink enroute home and that was what broke the camels back, who knows, it was wrong no doubt - the tweet has been retracted and no doubt apologise will be enroute. At end of day, as public CEO he has to do better, and should at least apologize for such comment but the way everyone is jumping at him is pretty harsh, the guy is super smart and what's he done so far with his three companies and what's ahead (even if Model3 fails) remains impressive. Quote This reaction has shaken my opinion of many people. We were asked to create a backup option & worked hard to do so. Checked with dive team many times to confirm it was worthwhile. Now it’s there for anyone who needs it in future. Something’s messed up if this is not a good thing It was a never a PR stunt in my opinion. He took that to heart though and retaliated with a reckless allegation. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sammieuk1 Posted July 17, 2018 Share Posted July 17, 2018 Could be a classic Ratner moment ha kin ha. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cake Monster Posted July 17, 2018 Share Posted July 17, 2018 It is no wonder that the shares of ' Tesla " fell upon Elon Musks outlandish attack upon a British Cave diver involved in the rescue of the team trapped underground. Tesla is regarded ( or has been ) as one of the Worlds leading Tech companies regarding Electric Power of vehicles. And what does Musk do ? He turns up at the cave rescue site with a machine that resembled a " Soap Box Derby " car and hailed it as the best thing invented for the rescue mission.. Well Mr. Musk, your invention was an utter shambles, one that you and your Company / s should be ashamed to have had the World see. And then you verbally abuse an experienced cave diver of many years when your Soap Box and your attitude were questioned. I hope that your Company looses another 60% value in its shares, as you have clearly demonstrated , you are not the kind of CEO for a World leading Company, and you should stand down. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Media1 Posted July 17, 2018 Share Posted July 17, 2018 2 hours ago, Dario said: Elon lost his temper. In the end we are all just humans, rich or poor, super smart or uneducated. But still, it's a REAL pity for him for a person the whole planet watches. I'm in the tennis world for my young daughter. Many tennis super stars have smashed their rackets on court (Serena, Novak, Maria Sharapova, etc), all people who earn substantial fortunes every year. All a joke. One old man having a cry. Using Thailand defamation law which l personally would revoke. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ukrules Posted July 17, 2018 Share Posted July 17, 2018 2 hours ago, NextStationBangkok said: Just two lines tweet costed 2 Billion ? Goodluck next time, don't scribe when you are out of mind. Of course it didn't, here's the one month chart : The chart speaks for itself. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chainarong Posted July 17, 2018 Share Posted July 17, 2018 Very ordinary Mr Musk Very ordinary Indeed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mekko Posted July 17, 2018 Share Posted July 17, 2018 Just going to leave this here, it was shared on some more balanced media sites a few days ago, as can't see it's been posted by any the TV experts that labelling it as a PR stunt from day 1. Musk was "triggered" by all those saying it was a PR stunt, media and those interview on TV, sub was never requested, syb was never needed etc.., this simply wasn't true. Spending time, money, on a backup plan, and then later being labelled a "PR stunt" caused the now deleted retaliation on twatter (which I'm not condoning but to add some light to situtation). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark mark Posted July 17, 2018 Share Posted July 17, 2018 Yes in copies of his full tweets, I saw some where, probably on another Thai Visa blog, ... He implied that People that lived in Thailand were "Suss" and it was in these tweets, I think he said that living in Thailand, put a person in a questionably position, ... And all this with out any evidence at all ... Like he did not say Belgum Right, ... Or France, ... Or Australia, where Children seem to be being murdered by their estranged Parents, at an ever increasing rate just at the moment !!! .... As usual he said the Ignorant, knee jerk reaction, of a poor social thinker, with little real information, ... "Thailand" ... (Just because it gives it's woman the Real Freedom, of being able to do what they want to) ? ... So he REALLY does have a lot of Apologizing to do, ... Like to all of us Expats in Thailand as well as Mr Unsworth. I am glad that the shares in his company have gone down, like this can be seen a a Good MORAL comment, .... Though as I say, the short sellers have been hitting them pretty hard, for a fair time already now I think, as there are questions on how fast he is building his cars, his Core Business, .... Other then the Ego, and Publicity stunts of course ! ? ... Right ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
peperobi Posted July 17, 2018 Share Posted July 17, 2018 A well-known company like Tesla should immediately distance itself from something like that. A person in the position of Mr. Musk has to keep that what he thought to himself. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tingtongtourist Posted July 17, 2018 Share Posted July 17, 2018 Also he has damages the image of Thailand and its tourism industry and is a threat to national security which dont go unpunished so maybe article 44 and computer crimes act in order?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rgraham Posted July 17, 2018 Share Posted July 17, 2018 Let him go back to building his house of cards. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
drayger Posted July 17, 2018 Share Posted July 17, 2018 If I were Unsworth I would just keep quiet and let the whole thing drop definitely wouldn't try to sue one of the richest men in the world unless I was totally sure my whole life was 100% squeaky clean with the money he has lawyers and private detectives will go through your whole life and there is always someone willing to elaborate on something if the money is right could bring alot of grief even if not true just get on with life and enjoy it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sanmyn Posted July 17, 2018 Share Posted July 17, 2018 In the Coast Guard we called all our submarine buddies ‘Pedos’ meaning ‘torPEDOs. (torpedos) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tropo Posted July 17, 2018 Share Posted July 17, 2018 8 hours ago, ExpatOilWorker said: Tesla shares fell because oil dropped $5! What they didn't tell you is that Tesla shares dropped $40, from $350 to $310 between June 28 and July 3. Also, even after the drop on Monday, they are still performing better than they were from March 26 until June 5. The share price today is pretty close to the average share price over the last year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
German farang Posted July 17, 2018 Share Posted July 17, 2018 7 hours ago, d3viliz3d said: Indeed. Musk certainly went too far with his comments, but this guy firing down on him just because he proposed a possible solution, spending his own money to bring equipment and a team there, is nonsense. Yep, Musk's replay was hot temperd & too far. But to be honesty: such insult from this diver probably I would have answerd by smashing instany his jaw! One get what he asks for! I know, it wouldn't be gentleman-like & overdone... But one may also should consider that certain people are sometimes heavely over-stressed. This diver may is a specialist in caves - but an human a-hole & very far from being such a high successfull creative mind as like Musk! So my comment addressed to this diver: "shut the <deleted>** up, carl!" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dumbastheycome Posted July 17, 2018 Share Posted July 17, 2018 Media humdrum milking the show. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eldragon Posted July 17, 2018 Share Posted July 17, 2018 Hate to admit it, but his comments are a reflection of what many people think about expats in Thailand.Sent from my iPhone using Thaivisa Connect Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sandrabbit Posted July 17, 2018 Share Posted July 17, 2018 1 hour ago, bobbyd1 said: Got to remember this bloke has a low I.Q. as many expats in Chiang Rai. You're in good company then .............. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris Lawrence Posted July 17, 2018 Share Posted July 17, 2018 Are you 100% sure TV or have you gone Thai Rogue on us? Maybe it was the sub sticking out of his a#se; maybe market conditions; maybe a market correction? Sounds like an awaked comment to take on to show Thianess? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DJ54 Posted July 17, 2018 Share Posted July 17, 2018 I do agree Musk comments were over the top and perhaps showed his sensitive side. If Musk was indeed asked to come up with a possible solution there’s no reason it kick him for the results. A lot of video was shown on television of the rescue. A number of them showed the stretchers carried by four persons. The boys would have to be take off the strecthers if as described the mini sub wouldn’t fit/work. Realistically we don’t know if the mini sub would work or not? It was an idea used or not that was trying to help. Most of the public didn’t know the boys would be sedated for the move. Maybe the mini sub idea was to make sure the boys got air and safe way for transfer. End of the day the rescue was a success. The videos also show it was not a handful of people that made the rescue a success. There were a lot of people doing their part to help.......in the cave and outside across the globe Make sure they all get their deserve s thanks .... if only four persons they’d still be trying to get the boys out of the cave. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tingtongtourist Posted July 17, 2018 Share Posted July 17, 2018 4 hours ago, drayger said: If I were Unsworth I would just keep quiet and let the whole thing drop definitely wouldn't try to sue one of the richest men in the world unless I was totally sure my whole life was 100% squeaky clean with the money he has lawyers and private detectives will go through your whole life and there is always someone willing to elaborate on something if the money is right could bring alot of grief even if not true just get on with life and enjoy it Your arguments is like many others on here that presuming he has some guilt or something to hide. Let me tell you something please, you cannot be mistaken if u acccuse another of being a pedo, and you better have your facts right. Its like saying a woman is "a little bit pregnant" either they are or are not. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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