webfact Posted July 17, 2018 Share Posted July 17, 2018 Religious and spiritual ceremonies held at Tham Luang Cave CHIANG RAI, 17th July 2018 (NNT) – A religious and spiritual ceremony has been held at Tham Luang Cave to appease its spirits after authorities were able to successfully rescue 13 members of Moo Pa Academy youth football team from its inner caverns. A Brahmin Lanna ceremony took place at 8:09 a.m. yesterday before Buddhist monks performed a blessing at 9:09 a.m. and prayers began at 10:09 a.m. One of the prayers was in dedication to former Thai Navy Seal Saman Kunan, who lost his life during the rescue operation. Former head of the Tham Luang Cave rescue mission and now Governor of Phayao province Narongsak Osot-thanakorn, alongside current Governor of Chiang Rai Prajon Prachsakul, chaired the proceedings with many Chiang Rai locals and the faithful from nearby provinces in attendance. In the afternoon, a Lanna cleansing ritual was held ahead of a Lanna cave closing ceremony. Both are believed to remove any ill-intentioned spirits from the area and protect others from losing their way in the cave. -- nnt 2018-07-17 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bluespunk Posted July 17, 2018 Share Posted July 17, 2018 1 minute ago, webfact said: In the afternoon, a Lanna cleansing ritual was held ahead of a Lanna cave closing ceremony. Both are believed to remove any ill-intentioned spirits from the area and protect others from losing their way in the cave. Ah huh... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Topdoc Posted July 17, 2018 Share Posted July 17, 2018 A very nice Buddhist touch! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bluesofa Posted July 17, 2018 Share Posted July 17, 2018 11 minutes ago, webfact said: In the afternoon, a Lanna cleansing ritual was held ahead of a Lanna cave closing ceremony. Both are believed to remove any ill-intentioned spirits from the area Where they were banished and subsequently bottled Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trd Posted July 17, 2018 Share Posted July 17, 2018 Except that it's not Buddhism, but Animism. A very nice Buddhist touch! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DM07 Posted July 17, 2018 Share Posted July 17, 2018 "In the afternoon, a Lanna cleansing ritual was held ahead of a Lanna cave closing ceremony. Both are believed to remove any ill-intentioned spirits from the area and protect others from losing their way in the cave." Yup...that'll do! Not my plan with the safety measures, the total locking of the caves from May to November and other worldly stuff! Just a bit of hocuspocus and shubby-dooby and everybody should be safe! Now, back to the rain- making! P.S.: for all who say "safety measures will come later...just a nice tradition..."...please don't insult my intelligence and remind yourself, of the simple fact, that this is Thailand! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DM07 Posted July 17, 2018 Share Posted July 17, 2018 19 minutes ago, trd said: Except that it's not Buddhism, but Animism. I think, it is neither! It is...what is the word I am looking for....oh, right: bull$41t! ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stanleycoin Posted July 17, 2018 Share Posted July 17, 2018 Ah yes. Mumbo Jumbo time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BobBKK Posted July 17, 2018 Share Posted July 17, 2018 28 minutes ago, trd said: Except that it's not Buddhism, but Animism. Not only that it's not Brahmanism either and, yes, its Animism a million miles away from Buddhism. BTW "losing their way in the cave" they mean past the warning signs, along the route they took many times and don't Pass Go and collect 200 baht? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bluesofa Posted July 17, 2018 Share Posted July 17, 2018 2 minutes ago, BobBKK said: BTW "losing their way in the cave" they mean past the warning signs, along the route they took many times and don't Pass Go and collect 200 baht? Does that mean Thais have a Monopoly on it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kannot Posted July 17, 2018 Share Posted July 17, 2018 15 minutes ago, stanleycoin said: Ah yes. Mumbo Jumbo time. too kind, load of ole crap Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trd Posted July 17, 2018 Share Posted July 17, 2018 Not only that it's not Brahmanism either and, yes, its Animism a million miles away from Buddhism. BTW "losing their way in the cave" they mean past the warning signs, along the route they took many times and don't Pass Go and collect 200 baht?Thai Buddhism is very accommodating and even welcomes some Hindu deities into parts of it. That's City Buddhism, not to be confused with the Thai Forest tradition of Therevada Buddhism. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bluesofa Posted July 17, 2018 Share Posted July 17, 2018 2 minutes ago, kannot said: 18 minutes ago, stanleycoin said: Ah yes. Mumbo Jumbo time. too kind, load of ole crap 'Mumbo Jumbo time' - that's the art of diplomacy: Telling you to go to hell in such a way you look forward to the journey. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stanleycoin Posted July 17, 2018 Share Posted July 17, 2018 Maybe they can fill the cave entrance up totally with candle wax, stopping this ever happening again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
grumbleweed Posted July 18, 2018 Share Posted July 18, 2018 15 hours ago, webfact said: A religious and spiritual ceremony has been held at Tham Luang Cave to appease its spirits Why not invoke article 44 to keep them in line? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kannot Posted July 18, 2018 Share Posted July 18, 2018 14 hours ago, bluesofa said: 'Mumbo Jumbo time' - that's the art of diplomacy: Telling you to go to hell in such a way you look forward to the journey. That all loving benevolent leader leading his flock who will send you to hell for eternity? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lupatria Posted July 18, 2018 Share Posted July 18, 2018 17 hours ago, webfact said: Both are believed to remove any ill-intentioned spirits from the area and protect others from losing their way in the cave. The only evil spirits I became aware of here are SangSom, Mekong, and Lao Khao. Most frightening is, no matter how hard the Thais try to drink the problem away, they are still around. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vacuum Posted July 18, 2018 Share Posted July 18, 2018 18 hours ago, webfact said: a Lanna cleansing ritual was held ahead of a Lanna cave closing ceremony. Both are believed to remove any ill-intentioned spirits from the area and protect others from losing their way in the cave. It's my personal opinion that things like this can explain the lack of common sense in Thailand. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Srikcir Posted July 18, 2018 Share Posted July 18, 2018 18 hours ago, webfact said: A religious and spiritual ceremony has been held at Tham Luang Cave to appease its spirits Obviously "religious" refers to Buddhism. Were the boys surveyed for their faith, in particular the "stateless" boys? Were the rescuers so surveyed? Were concerned citizens so surveyed? Was it established that Jewish, Hindu, Christian, Muslim, etc. faiths had no spiritual role in the children's rescue (if one believes in such religious involvement in human affairs) and celebration? What we have seen historically is the close connection between the Thai military and Buddhism as authoritarian leaders vis a vis under the banner of nationalism. Hence the possible reason for this Buddhist display. In a democratic society all faiths would be allowed representation or none. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
connda Posted July 18, 2018 Share Posted July 18, 2018 Animism abounds. This is why I refer to Thais as Buddhist flavored Animists. Nothing about those ceremonies has anything to do with Buddhism although I"m sure the events will be lead by monks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jonmarleesco Posted July 18, 2018 Share Posted July 18, 2018 On 7/17/2018 at 3:56 PM, webfact said: Both are believed to remove any ill-intentioned spirits from the area and protect others from losing their way in the cave. Well, that's reassuring to know. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
khaowong1 Posted July 18, 2018 Share Posted July 18, 2018 On 7/17/2018 at 1:58 AM, Bluespunk said: Ah huh... And, who paid for it. I know of no ceremonies that the monks do for free. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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