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55 minutes ago, dufusdonald said:

So now because his daughter saw the tweet she thinks her dad is a Pedo?  How flucking stupid are people on this site?  And how has he been damaged other than his feelings? Musk has a daughter. Maybe she is upset this guy basically called her dad a fraud.

The damage is to his reputation, pure and simple.

Musk made a written statement accusing Vern of being a peadophile and unless he has the foundation to back that statement up, then it is libelous.

Vern made a verbal statement regarding the mini-sub, that doesn't damage Musk's personal reputation or businesses, unless he is going to go in to production with the mini subs?

Vern made his comments about a machine and Musk turned this in to a personal tirade, by attempting to tarnish Vern's reputation, to me that shows what type a person he is.

Vern's daughter may not believe it, but she does have to walk around with the knowledge that some people may wrongly see her Father as some kind of pedo / pervert, which then has an effect on her life, all because of some egotistical t@at who couldn't stop himself posting on tw@tter.

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Personally, I would go with the law firm of Dewey, Cheatham and Howell. They were lauded for their expertise for years by the Car Talk guys.

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While the above suggestion in general may be a good idea, I think given Mr. Unsworth's comments to the media that this is not over' etc., an agreement not to initiate any legal action may require a more formal arrangement.

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6 hours ago, kannot said:

Its  pretty clear to any sane person he isnt a paedophile his life wont be ruined it will be even more respected and even more so if  he  just lets it go

Let it GO... Are you Musk's friend or something... If anyone ever called me a Pedo I would take their house and stick them on a soup kitchen to live

 

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1 hour ago, dufusdonald said:

So now because his daughter saw the tweet she thinks her dad is a Pedo?  How flucking stupid are people on this site?  And how has he been damaged other than his feelings? Musk has a daughter. Maybe she is upset this guy basically called her dad a fraud.

I won't call you names but instead of me being offensive, please stop and reflect what you wrote.  

You asked how stupid people could be on this site, I just wonder how high IQ you have, I don't mean that in a condescending way, so I will explain. 

Mr. Unsworth daughter (and the rest of the world most probably) read what that idiot Mr. Musk wrote, she's got friends, friends of friends, possible she's got enemies, as everyone else got them, sometimes without knowing they have them too, her employer might know her father, people in public service might recognise her name and make the connection etc. NOW do you see the possible consequences of shewting your yapper. The world is tough enough and unjust, every attempt to make it more harsh, I for one will try to crush. The word Mr.Musk used to derogate Mr. Unsworth is an extremely loaded word and it's used to destroy innocent people's lives because it CAN be done very easily using those loaded words. What you speculate around with his daughter isn't your business, mind yourself and your life and try not to open your (keyboard)yapper with the purpose of defaming someone you obviously don't know.

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11 minutes ago, Mattd said:

The damage is to his reputation, pure and simple.

Musk made a written statement accusing Vern of being a peadophile and unless he has the foundation to back that statement up, then it is libelous.

<snip>

 In which justification?

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1 hour ago, dufusdonald said:

 

How did  he place his life on the line?  He wasn't a diver. All credit to him for recommending his mates come to help and for his help but to say he placed his life on the line is not factual.  And not only that he absolutely posed for that photograph of his shoe with the tape.  Not looking for publicity?  C'mon, I'm a photog. Nothing wrong with it but kinda hypocritical of the guy to say Musk was only looking for publicity. Said it before. Musk didn't need to get involved. He doesn't need any more publicity. Stupid to suggest he did it for publicity.

 

In fact, in America you would have to have gotten a release from the guy to publish it since he knew he was being photographed.

Musk  got his first ''bums rush'' by the Thai Governor of the province (you know the bloke in charge of the whole operation) Musk then made a remark that the Governor did not know and implied he was wrong.

he then went looking for others to look at his submarine, he then commented that one English diver had encouraged

him? by saying it ''could work''...…

this is all the while when the water was rising in some parts, added to the fact that a lot of  the caves floor would have  to be  climbed/crawled/walked (they were struggling to replace the air tanks due to the terrain they encounterd )

and the rainy season had just begun....yeh just the scenario to use an un trialed sub that no one had ever used before

so why was he so pushy......have a guess...lol just as well all the real hero's got their way. 

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11 minutes ago, JLCrab said:

 In which justification?

I assume you meant jurisdiction? 

That would be for the legal types to sort out, I am pretty sure that in years to come posting libelous statements on social media will become test cases for the courts and due to the autonomy of the location, then it won't matter as to the where it was physically posted.

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He's publicly apologised now, it would seem under pressure from Tesla shareholders.

 

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Vernon! Elon! Both of you boys go to your rooms this instant!

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7 hours ago, charmonman said:

What are you talking about? He didn't say something negative about Musk's company or its workers other than that Musk's mini-submarine idea had no chance of working. For upsetting this <deleted>'s fragile ego he is accused of being a pedophile? You think that's a normal human reaction? No, it's not normal, it is called slander.

So it's perfectly fine to say to someone to jam things up the rear and calling this a PR stunt?

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9 minutes ago, Mattd said:

I assume you meant jurisdiction? 

That would be for the legal types to sort out, I am pretty sure that in years to come posting libelous statements on social media will become test cases for the courts and due to the autonomy of the location, then it won't matter as to the where it was physically posted.

Yes -- that was a Spell check hiccup. Jurisdiction. All I meant to say was that in California, given Mr. Unwsorth's statements on worldwide media, libel might not apply unless Mr. Unsworth can establish 'malice' in the legal sense.

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26 minutes ago, KamalaRider said:

I won't call you names but instead of me being offensive, please stop and reflect what you wrote.  

You asked how stupid people could be on this site, I just wonder how high IQ you have, I don't mean that in a condescending way, so I will explain. 

Mr. Unsworth daughter (and the rest of the world most probably) read what that idiot Mr. Musk wrote, she's got friends, friends of friends, possible she's got enemies, as everyone else got them, sometimes without knowing they have them too, her employer might know her father, people in public service might recognise her name and make the connection etc. NOW do you see the possible consequences of shewting your yapper. The world is tough enough and unjust, every attempt to make it more harsh, I for one will try to crush. The word Mr.Musk used to derogate Mr. Unsworth is an extremely loaded word and it's used to destroy innocent people's lives because it CAN be done very easily using those loaded words. What you speculate around with his daughter isn't your business, mind yourself and your life and try not to open your (keyboard)yapper with the purpose of defaming someone you obviously don't know.

No, I don't.  And it wasn't me who called the guy a Pedo.  I won't insult you because you can't read.  It was Musk.  Your definition of ïdiot" is what?  So now you call Musk an "idiot"?  Compared to who? You? Really? What have you accomplished in your life?  Musk may be many things but ïdiot"is not one of them. Foolish, arrogant, a pompus ass fine but idiot, no.  Shows you are biased.  My latest tested IQ was 125. Can't remember where that stacks up. My sister belongs to Mensa.  Or whatever it's called.  

 

But it's ok for you to libel Musk here on TV and you want me to take you seriously? haha .  Gee, maybe he has a daughter who will read you called him an idiot and she may need psychological help the rest of her life because of what you wrote. My God sir have some class. 

 

And just how did I defame Mr Unsworth my friend?  Do your best to point it out to me.  How many people even know this guy? Those who do know him always suspected he was a Pedo did they?  And now they know for sure cause Musk tweeted it out?  Again I have to ask how stupid are these folks who buy in to that then?  I would not give a rat's ass about them.  And for those who do not know him <deleted> does he care? 

 

For those here on TV who are too stupid to see it was simply a reaction to what Unsworth tweeted to Musk I can only say you need psychological help. You  have serious issues.  Mental issues at a minimum.  I await your response with facts.  Try using them instead of making stuff up.

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3 hours ago, steve73 said:

I was expecting this comment to come from either sanemax or oldlackey  to be closely followed by Musk's reply.  ? 

Totally left-field in response to 815's comment which I thought was spot on. 

I try not to talk like that anymore chap as I have come out second a time or two with several of our illustrious moderators

Deservedly  so though I might add

 

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