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British caver says he approached by U.S., British lawyers over Musk's comments

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Seems to be inconsistent reporting on this. One source said that the British diver replied to Musk's offer with 'he can stick that sub where it hurts' ...? That's a bit of banter, and now he's pulling a Neymar Jr. c. World Cup 2018. Can't say that I blame him if legal counsel can guarantee a nice cash settlement ...

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35 minutes ago, Mattd said:

I do agree that the sane ones amongst us will respect Vern more, however, this will have an impact, as human nature dictates that a lot of people will see Musk's comments as gospel, a comment like this, made by somebody like Musk, holds weight with some people, that is fact and one of the many negatives of social media. 

These people have their followers on social media who, for whatever reason, simply believe everything they say without question and now because of Musk's malice comments Vern has to live with that for the rest of his life and this will make differences to it.

For example, it is like the teacher who gets accused of rape and acquitted, in reality the doubt will always remain in some peoples minds and usually it ends with them losing their career. 

Once an inference is made it is damn near impossible to remove and the more famous the person who makes it, the more impact it has.

UK tabloids have been doing it for years!

 

Even here on TV there were posters who said, in effect: Musk must have some proof  that this is true or he wouldn't have said it, because Musk is too smart to make an accusation like that without evidence.

 

He's not and he did, but there are people who have such faith in him that anything he says carries weight.

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1 minute ago, NanLaew said:

Citation needed.

Musk provided a snapshot of an sms from one of the Brit divers who told him to continue working on the sub. Unsworth may not have known that.  He's gonna look pretty stupid if Musk can verify it.

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3 minutes ago, Horace said:

... Recent events in Europe have made the Californians I met hostile to self-aggrandizing Americans creating problems abroad. ...

Really? Along with Ahnold's "wet noodle" admonishment, mean that CA is actually going to try and secede from the union?

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1 hour ago, charmonman said:

What are you talking about? He didn't say something negative about Musk's company or its workers other than that Musk's mini-submarine idea had no chance of working. For upsetting this <deleted>'s fragile ego he is accused of being a pedophile? You think that's a normal human reaction? No, it's not normal, it is called slander.

I agree with you 100 percent, though I'd prefer it if Mr Unsworth hadn't said to Musk "stick it where it hurts". Musk's response, however, was totally unacceptable - something only a spoilt rich brat would say.

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1 minute ago, dufusdonald said:

Musk provided a snapshot of an sms from one of the Brit divers who told him to continue working on the sub. Unsworth may not have known that.  He's gonna look pretty stupid if Musk can verify it.

Oh... I was thinking you meant evidence of good ol' Vern being bent.

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1 hour ago, DinoSabanovic said:

To me this stupid. How can someone say something negative about the company and workers that work there and get away with it? And when it is responded to that accusation, get all frustrated and threaten to take legal actions. Musk responded and that was normal human reaction. The thing "pedo" is a bit much but I do understand him. 

 

Not surprised at all that the U.S. legal vultures would like to have a shot at making a name for themselves, but it looks like it's rubbing off with U.K. too.

 

Doubt we'll get a lawyers 11 a side match out of this one though.  My bet is Unsworth doesn't really want the hassle, but is positioning himself for an incoming phone call to say 'geez, how much?' where he settles out of court for 'an undisclosed sum' and a gag order.  Nice retirement, and since it's Elon, that means the U.S. tax payers will be footing a large portion of the bill.

 

Remind me to have a waiver drawn up for any Twitter trolls I come across on any given day.  The world must be in amazing shape if these kind of things are the biggest issues around.

 

I no longer have any respect for either of them, despite prior achievements of both.

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If this guy sues Musk he has to:

 

1. Prove Musk said it with malice.  Since his tweet was a reaction to Unsworth's tweet that Musk could stick the sub up his ass good luck with that

2. Prove he is not a Pedo (how do you do that?)

3. Prove Musk's tweet has caused him financial loss (does this guy even work anymore?)

 

Good luck with all that

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20 minutes ago, Blackheart1916 said:

No, I meant that Mr Unsworth has refuted the remark made by Musk.

It can be hard work mate cant it

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I saw this morning on the news a list with 7 (not sure about the number) of points to follow by REAL divers presented by the Navy Seal.
 

One point was (don't recall the exact words):

- In a rescue missions every input is as good as yours.

  There is no bad idea.
  The only bad idea is no idea.

Shows the Mister Vermin Unworthy is not backed up be the Navy Seals with is attacks in Elon Musk.

I would be very careful if I was in his shoes.
After all, it would not be the first time that evidence of being a pedofile is found in a search on his hard-disk.
Don't push your luck too far.

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16 minutes ago, sanemax said:

The allegation from Musk still stands , he hasnt retracted it or refuted it

Nobody has said he has for gods sake try and keep up

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3 minutes ago, Shiver said:

 

Not surprised at all that the U.S. legal vultures would like to have a shot at making a name for themselves, but it looks like it's rubbing off with U.K. too.

 

Doubt we'll get a lawyers 11 a side match out of this one though.  My bet is Unsworth doesn't really want the hassle, but is positioning himself for an incoming phone call to say 'geez, how much?' where he settles out of court for 'an undisclosed sum' and a gag order.  Nice retirement, and since it's Elon, that means the U.S. tax payers will be footing a large portion of the bill.

 

Remind me to have a waiver drawn up for any Twitter trolls I come across on any given day.  The world must be in amazing shape if these kind of things are the biggest issues around.

 

I no longer have any respect for either of them, despite prior achievements of both.

Why would the US taxpayers be footing the bill?

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14 minutes ago, Horace said:

I just got back from California.  Musk was viewed as clown by everyone I met in San Francisco and Los Angeles.  <snip>

And none of that makes any difference unless it came to picking a jury.

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9 minutes ago, hobobo said:

I agree with you 100 percent, though I'd prefer it if Mr Unsworth hadn't said to Musk "stick it where it hurts". Musk's response, however, was totally unacceptable - something only a spoilt rich brat would say.

And had Musk been employed by his Company , that would be a sack-able offence

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18 minutes ago, Sheryl said:

I don't think a phone call would work. Musk needs to issue a public retraction, say it was words said in anger  and not meant to be a serious allegation.

Is that a legal opinion? Unless there was some two-way agreement in place, Musk could do so and then Unsworth could still go ahead and sue.

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