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British caver says he approached by U.S., British lawyers over Musk's comments

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7 minutes ago, dufusdonald said:

Why would the US taxpayers be footing the bill?

A lot of the money invested in Tesla comes from the U.S. government.

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6 minutes ago, Confuscious said:

... After all, it would not be the first time that evidence of being a pedofile is found in a search on his hard-disk. ...

Confucius would say don't talk so irresponsibly on Thai media.

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5 hours ago, rwdrwdrwd said:

Go with the US ones, they will sting him a lot harder, half a million US is the going rate for libel, and that's without a gobby unlikeable billionaire being involved.

It's more difficult to win a slander case in the United States than in Britain, where defendants (last I knew--see the film and book "Denial") in defamation suits are guilty until proven innocent. In the U.S., the First Amendment protects the public from defamation suits by public figures. They have to prove actual malice, reckless disregard for the truth, and that the plaintiff's reputation has actually been damaged. hard to prove. This is why Trump has made a career of threatening libel and slander suits but has rarely if ever gone through with one, and certainly hasn't won any. In our case here, the potential defendant Musk is the public figure, but it seems to me a an uphill battle to prove actual malice, reckless disregard for the truth and actual reputational damage. The man had better file suit in Britain.

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7 minutes ago, oldlakey said:

Nobody has said he has for gods sake try and keep up

If you follow the discussion , you will see that I was replying to a post that stated that the allegations had been refuted and I was stating that only Musk can refute the claims that he made and thats something that he hasnt done .

   Its you who needs to keep up and follow the discussion 

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25 minutes ago, dufusdonald said:

yadee yada yada. you said Tesla would melt down over this squabble. no it won't. If it would have it would have yesterday like Facebook at first.  FB dropped to $149 and now look at it a month later. 

Still waiting for you to quote me, dufus ... got to go offline for a few hours but looking forward to your further insights when I get back.

 

You could always hold up your hand to your mistake, too: always an option!

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3 minutes ago, Shiver said:

A lot of the money invested in Tesla comes from the U.S. government.

Geez, you think the money would come from Tesla?  It would come from Musk's personal funds.  

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None of the posters has a remote clue as to how defamation law in the U.S. works. See my comment again: It's more difficult to win a slander case in the United States than in Britain, where defendants (last I knew--see the film and book "Denial") in defamation suits are guilty until proven innocent. In the U.S., the First Amendment protects the public from defamation suits by public figures. They have to prove actual malice, reckless disregard for the truth, and that the plaintiff's reputation has actually been damaged. hard to prove. This is why Trump has made a career of threatening libel and slander suits but has rarely if ever gone through with one, and certainly hasn't won any. In our case here, the potential defendant Musk is the public figure, but it seems to me a an uphill battle to prove actual malice, reckless disregard for the truth and actual reputational damage. The man had better file suit in Britain.

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5 hours ago, rwdrwdrwd said:

Go with the US ones, they will sting him a lot harder, half a million US is the going rate for libel, and that's without a gobby unlikeable billionaire being involved.

Mitigating circumstances of which there so many here,and punitive damages using the Lawyers who specialise in these libel cases...can be worth much more.........Go for it Vern.....then get a new pair of boots.  He he!

 

5 hours ago, rwdrwdrwd said:

 

 

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Under California libel law, Mr. Unsworth could likely be considered as a public figure due to his appearance on CNN and in other media being germane to this specific case and it would be HE who would then be required to prove malice -- in the legal sense -- on the part of Mr. Musk.

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1 minute ago, sanemax said:

If you follow the discussion , you will see that I was replying to a post that stated that the allegations had been refuted and I was stating that only Musk can refute the claims that he made and thats something that he hasnt done .

   Its you who needs to keep up and follow the discussion 

You were replying to a post that you did not understand for whatever reason my man

The post clearly made the point as to who had refuted what

Go back and reread what was posted then you will see you are barking up the wrong tree

On the other hand you can continue in this vein its all good entertainment

Have a nice day

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2 minutes ago, Dustdevil said:

None of the posters has a remote clue as to how defamation law in the U.S. works. See my comment again: It's more difficult to win a slander case in the United States than in Britain, where defendants (last I knew--see the film and book "Denial") in defamation suits are guilty until proven innocent. In the U.S., the First Amendment protects the public from defamation suits by public figures. They have to prove actual malice, reckless disregard for the truth, and that the plaintiff's reputation has actually been damaged. hard to prove. This is why Trump has made a career of threatening libel and slander suits but has rarely if ever gone through with one, and certainly hasn't won any. In our case here, the potential defendant Musk is the public figure, but it seems to me a an uphill battle to prove actual malice, reckless disregard for the truth and actual reputational damage. The man had better file suit in Britain.

Sure are a lot of idiot posters here. Not sure how many Pedos.  And the guy would probably have to file in US as that is where the tweet came from.  Not a lawyer but fairly certain.

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9 minutes ago, sanemax said:

If you follow the discussion , you will see that I was replying to a post that stated that the allegations had been refuted and I was stating that only Musk can refute the claims that he made and thats something that he hasnt done .

   Its you who needs to keep up and follow the discussion 

Only MUSK can refute the claims he has made, really

I think you mean only MUSK can withdraw the claims he has made

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Personally, I think she should sue the pants out of Musk.

 

If you are so naive to think that this comment from Musk has no weight to someone's integrity I challenge you to post the same comment to another poster on this very forum. I am sure you will be permanently banned just for tarnishing the poster's username. 

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3 minutes ago, BestB said:

Here is the thing that all of you seem to have missed.

 

Musk did not say peadophile , he said a “pedo” which all assumed meant peadophile, however should it hit the courts with lawyers Musk can afford, “pedo” will have dozens of different meanings, including misspells 

Never get away with it

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