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jackdd

Honda Africa Twin

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DCT version: https://www.aphonda.co.th/hondabigbike/motorcycle/adventure/africa-twin-adventure-sports-dct

MT version: https://www.aphonda.co.th/hondabigbike/motorcycle/adventure/africa-twin-adventure-sports-mt

 

According to the Honda Big Wing shops they get the new Africa Twin Adventure Sports next week and i will most likely buy one (they didn't say anything yet about the regular updated 2018 model, but maybe then as well).

 

Anybody else here riding an Africa Twin already or going to get one?

Obviously not made for Bangkok traffic, but i expect some fun outside of the cities ?

The price is clearly too high compared to other markets, but that's how it is with imported products in Thailand, the competitors are not cheaper

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22 minutes ago, eisfeld said:

I think the AT is the best bang for the buck when it comes to adventure bikes in Thailand. The Versys isn't too bad but I prefer the AT much more with added oomph and much nicer character due to 270 degree crank. The Ducati Multistrada 950 is also nice but quite a bit more expensive and you never know with Ducatis regarding reliability. The BMW 1200 GS is overpriced (double AT price) and imho too fat. The new 850 GS is nice but I'm not sure if available in Thailand yet, also not a super big dealer network.

The direct competitors for the Africa Twin are the BMW 850 GS (i recently read some news that BMW is recalling all bikes because there is a problem with the engine, so will probably take a while until it's in Thailand) and the Triumph Tiger 800. Price wise both similar to the Africa Twin. The main reason why i want the Africa Twin is the DCT but of course another point to consider is the dealer network, which also would me lead to the Africa Twin.

 

26 minutes ago, eisfeld said:

When thinking about which version (Adventure Sports or normal) to get: definitely test-ride or at least test-sit on the Adventure Sports model because the normal AT is already quite high and the Aventure Sports even higher. Apart from the added height, bigger fuel tank and crashbars, there's not that much different and I personally would choose the normal version. I only like the larger fuel capacity but mine can go 300km easily on a full tank and that's more than enough for the riding I do especially if you want to take a break every 2h or so anyways. Oh and the Adventure Sports is 13kg heavier.

Yes, these are definitely valid points and if i look at it totally objectively the regular version might be the more reasonable choice.

But the Adventure Sports is just more special than the regular version so my subjective feeling is: I want this ?

The height should be ok, i'm not the smallest person. When sitting on the regular Africa Twin i can put my feet flat on the ground.

I watched a lot of reviews of the Adventure Sports so i know that it's high. I'm always wondering when i see all the posts of Thai people on Facebook who write that they booked the Adventure Sports, if these people know how high this bike is and that it's probably too high for the average Thai.

 

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I forgot about the Triumph Tiger 800. Looking at the Triumph Thailand website, I think they still got the old model with the monochrome LCD here, not the new one with color TFT. So I wouldn't consider that bike, knowing that a much updated model will be there "soon". Same situation as the BMW.

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10 minutes ago, eisfeld said:

I forgot about the Triumph Tiger 800. Looking at the Triumph Thailand website, I think they still got the old model with the monochrome LCD here, not the new one with color TFT. So I wouldn't consider that bike, knowing that a much updated model will be there "soon". Same situation as the BMW.

Triumph has both on their website, no idea if the new model is already being sold

Old: https://www.triumphmotorcycles.co.th/bikes/adventure-and-touring/tiger/2018/tiger-800

New: https://www.triumphmotorcycles.co.th/bikes/adventure-and-touring/tiger/2018/800

They increased the price for the new model. I don't know how well it sold, but assume not so well, so maybe they used the Thai logic which one can see in many areas "if i don't sell many i have to increase the price to make more profit per unit"

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Right so that's also an option. Personally I'd always pick the AT because it looks much better to me and the dealer network is the best in Thailand. For anything but a touring/adventure bike, I'd consider a lot of other brands here.

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8 minutes ago, Hummin said:

Im also considering the Africa twin, but also looking at this one. Quite good budget bike compare to anything else, and I know one who have more than 250 000 km on a previous model.

 

Honda NC750X

https://ultimatemotorcycling.com/2017/11/06/2018-honda-nc750x-first-look-9-fast-facts/

Yes, that's i nice bike indeed, i do especially like the integrated storage.

I was thinking about it as well, but decided it's too much street orientated for me and it could have a few more horse power (not that more horse power are "needed" on Thai roads, but it's just for the kick)

I think the 2018 model is not in Thailand yet, but if the Africa Twin is comming now it will probably come soon as well

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20 minutes ago, jackdd said:

Yes, that's i nice bike indeed, i do especially like the integrated storage.

I was thinking about it as well, but decided it's too much street orientated for me and it could have a few more horse power (not that more horse power are "needed" on Thai roads, but it's just for the kick)

I think the 2018 model is not in Thailand yet, but if the Africa Twin is comming now it will probably come soon as well

New Honda start delivering now from Honda Big Wing. So if you order now, you will have it in  2 months or so depends on colour you choose. Starting price 630 000,-

 

For a 1000 cc thats a nice price. However 2017 model is 550 and 580, 

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4 minutes ago, Hummin said:

Starting price 630 000,-

Where did you get that from? The top model Adventure Sports DCT is listed at 625k on the AP Honda website. 595k without DCT. The same 550k and 580k as before for the normal model MT/DCT.

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12 minutes ago, eisfeld said:

Where did you get that from? The top model Adventure Sports DCT is listed at 625k on the AP Honda website. 595k without DCT. The same 550k and 580k as before for the normal model MT/DCT.

The lady in Honda Bigwing told me, so happy to know you got other prices. Your prices is delivered Bangkok? 

 

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1 minute ago, Hummin said:

The lady in Honda Bigwing told me, so happy to know you got other prices. Your prices is Bangkok? 

Afaik Honda Big Wing prices are fixed. So you get the prices which you can see on this website in every Big Wing shop (at least for the one in Udon Thani i can confirm it): https://www.aphonda.co.th/hondabigbike/en

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4 minutes ago, jackdd said:

Afaik Honda Big Wing prices are fixed. So you get the prices which you can see on this website in every Big Wing shop (at least for the one in Udon Thani i can confirm it): https://www.aphonda.co.th/hondabigbike/en

I guess she just said wrong to me then! 

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Africa twin has a 21" front wheel, are you really going that hard off road to warrant it? Triumph TIGERS new XRT has a more road biased 19" front. 

 

Honda's dealer network won't help you much unless you're near a big wing outlet and I'm not convinced about the DCT's reliability. 

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As jackdd mentioned, Bigwings prices are fixed and delivered to whatever Bigwing dealer you want.

 

10 minutes ago, Bung said:

Honda's dealer network won't help you much unless you're near a big wing outlet and I'm not convinced about the DCT's reliability. 

 

 With more dealers, your chances of being near a dealer are higher, not sure what you are trying to say. BTW, with the AT you get 2 years of 24/7 roadside assistance.

 

I haven't heard anything bad about the DCT reliability. Of course anything more complex can have more failure modes but they've been making DCT bikes for a good number of years now and I don't think they have a bad reputation.

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