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Britain has identified Russians suspected of Skripal nerve attack: Press Association

By Guy Faulconbridge

 

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People stand outside the Zizzi restaurant which remains behind barriers after it was closed following the nerve agent attack on Sergei Skripal and his daughter Yulia, in Salisbury, Britain, June 22, 2018. REUTERS/Toby Melville

 

LONDON (Reuters) - British police have identified several Russians who they believe were behind the nerve agent attack on former double agent Sergei Skripal and his daughter, the Press Association reported on Thursday, citing a source close to the investigation.

 

Skripal, a former colonel in Russian military intelligence who betrayed dozens of agents to Britain's MI6 foreign spy service, and his daughter Yulia, were found unconscious on a public bench in the British city of Salisbury on March 4.

 

Britain blamed Russia for the poisonings and identified the poison as Novichok, a deadly group of nerve agents developed by the Soviet military in the 1970s and 1980s. Russia has repeatedly denied any involvement in the attack.

 

After analysing closed-circuit television, police think several Russians were involved in the attack on the Skripals, who spent weeks in hospital before being spirited to a secret location, Press Association reported.

 

"Investigators believe they have identified the suspected perpetrators of the Novichok attack," the unidentified source close to the investigation said, according to PA.

 

"They (the investigators) are sure they (the suspects) are Russian," said the source, adding security camera images had been cross checked with records of people who entered the country.

 

A police spokesman declined to comment on the report.

 

After the attack on the Skripals, allies in Europe and the United States sided with Britain's view of the attack and ordered the biggest expulsion of Russian diplomats since the height of the Cold War.

 

Russia retaliated by expelling Western diplomats. Moscow has repeatedly denied any involvement and accused the British intelligence agencies of staging the attack to stoke anti-Russian hysteria.

 

Mystery surrounds the attack.

 

The motive for attacking Skripal, an aged Russian traitor who was exchanged in a Kremlin-approved spy swap in 2010, is still unclear, as is the motive for using of an exotic nerve agent which has such overt links to Russia’s Soviet past.

 

Novichok put the Skripals into a coma, though after weeks in intensive care they were spirited to a secret location for their safety.

 

"My life has been turned upside down," Yulia Skripal told Reuters in May. "Our recovery has been slow and extremely painful."

 

A British woman, Dawn Sturgess, died this month after coming across a small bottle containing Novichok near the city of Salisbury where the Skripals were struck down. Her partner, Charlie Rowley, is still in hospital.

 

A British police officer was also injured by Novichok while attending to the Skripals in March.

 

(Additional reporting by Subrat Patnaik in Bengaluru; editing by Alistair Smout and Matthew Mpoke Bigg)

 
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Just because they may have identified Russian suspects doesn't mean that Putin was involved.
If you recall, Julia's prospective mother in law was extremely anti Julia's relationship with her son which seemed to be moving in the direction of marriage. She couldn't stand it that her son was going to get engaged to the daughter of a traitor. 

 

Anyway, if you look at the Best Rated comments section in the Daily Mail and elsewhere you can see that the general public are highly sceptical about this whole story.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-5969197/Skripal-Novichok-poisoning-suspects-identified.html#comments

 

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2 minutes ago, Topdoc said:

Just because they may have identified Russian suspects doesn't mean that Putin was involved.
If you recall, Julia's prospective mother in law was extremely anti Julia's relationship with her son which seemed to be moving in the direction of marriage. She couldn't stand it that her son was going to get engaged to the daughter of a traitor. 

 

Anyway, if you look at the Best Rated comments section in the Daily Mail and elsewhere you can see that the general public are highly sceptical about this whole story.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-5969197/Skripal-Novichok-poisoning-suspects-identified.html#comments

 

Because the readership of the Daily Mail represents an accurate cross sample of the British public?

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7 minutes ago, bristolboy said:

Because the readership of the Daily Mail represents an accurate cross sample of the British public?

Of course, it's not a perfectly accurate cross sample but the Daily Mail and Mail Online are in 1st place with some 23.5m UK readers over the course of a month (2015 data). It's one of the most popular newspapers in the whole world!

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17 minutes ago, Topdoc said:

Of course, it's not a perfectly accurate cross sample but the Daily Mail and Mail Online are in 1st place with some 23.5m UK readers over the course of a month (2015 data). It's one of the most popular newspapers in the whole world!

 

23.5m right wing, narrow minded, backward looking, xenophobic, racist, bigots in the UK?

 

That sounds about right.

 

Sad thing is that more of them turn up to live in Thailand every day.

 

 

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38 minutes ago, Topdoc said:

Just because they may have identified Russian suspects doesn't mean that Putin was involved.

Yes it does.  This was a hit job assigned to an oligarch.  This kind of assassination attempt doesn't happen unless Putin gives the green light.

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that would be excellent news if true, some evidence perhaps leading to a resolution.

but don't count your commies before they hatch!  the government has not made an official announcement, and the news reports i've seen are all cut&paste copies of the same article, referencing an anonymous source "with knowledge of" the police investigation.  (is this just metro police?  not national counterterrorism?)

 

and the headlines mostly have "identified" in quote marks.  so far it reads they have CCTV footage, some possible suspects that entered britain on one set of passports and left by another.  so "identified" means they've picked out some persons of interest, but don't yet have identities, assuming all passports were fake.

 

don't know how to take the news article comment that police are "sure" they're russian.

 

interesting.  anxiously awaiting an official announcement, and whether they have anything definitive yet.

 

is there an extradition treaty in effect with the russian federation? 

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2 hours ago, Topdoc said:

Just because they may have identified Russian suspects doesn't mean that Putin was involved.
If you recall, Julia's prospective mother in law was extremely anti Julia's relationship with her son which seemed to be moving in the direction of marriage. She couldn't stand it that her son was going to get engaged to the daughter of a traitor. 

 

Right, and her mother-in-law just happens to know where to pick up a bottle or two of a weapons-grade toxin. Probably went to NerveAgents 'R' Us while the sale was on.

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1 hour ago, BestB said:

Says who ?

Police are believed to have identified the suspected perpetrators of the Novichok attack on a Russian ex-spy and his daughter in Salisbury in March, according to reports.

Several Russians were involved in the attempted murder of Sergei and Yulia Skripal, the Press Association says.

They are thought to have been identified through CCTV, cross-checked with border entry data.

Earlier this month, Dawn Sturgess, 44, died after being poisoned by Novichok.

She and her partner, Charlie Rowley, 45, fell ill on 30 June in Amesbury, Wiltshire. He remains seriously ill in hospital.

More...

https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-44883803

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44 minutes ago, stevenl said:

Strangely enough it are the right wingers wanting to absolve Putin of involvement, strange world we live in.

No, it's a strange world you live in, where everything is so simply defined as Right v Left, goodies versus baddies, like v dislike. A cartoonish view of the world, in my estimation.

 

Many people who would be defined as right-wing think that Putin is a menace, and I'm sure there are many people who would be defined as left-wing who like what Putin is doing.

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36 minutes ago, RickBradford said:

No, it's a strange world you live in, where everything is so simply defined as Right v Left, goodies versus baddies, like v dislike. A cartoonish view of the world, in my estimation.

 

Many people who would be defined as right-wing think that Putin is a menace, and I'm sure there are many people who would be defined as left-wing who like what Putin is doing.

My world is not defined left Vs right, nonsense statement you made.

 

Just strange that Trump's foreign policy is as left wing as it gets: anti trade treaties/globalisation, anti Nato, etc. Those were part of the ideals of European left in the 70's.

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1 minute ago, stevenl said:

My world is not defined left Vs right, nonsense statement you made.

 

Just strange that Trump's foreign policy is as left wing as it gets: anti trade treaties/globalisation, anti Nato, etc. Those were part of the ideals of European left in the 70's.

Well, that's completely different to what you said earlier, which was that it is only "right wingers wanting to absolve Putin of involvement."

 

Nothing to do with Trump's foreign policies at all.

 

And if you think that anti-globalisation is solely a left-wing phenomenon, then once again you are making a gross oversimplification on the Right v Left divide. The 17 million people in the UK who voted to leave the globalising EU came from every point on the political spectrum.

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5 minutes ago, RickBradford said:

Well, that's completely different to what you said earlier, which was that it is only "right wingers wanting to absolve Putin of involvement."

 

Nothing to do with Trump's foreign policies at all.

 

And if you think that anti-globalisation is solely a left-wing phenomenon, then once again you are making a gross oversimplification on the Right v Left divide. The 17 million people in the UK who voted to leave the globalising EU came from every point on the political spectrum.

You just added 'only' to be able to make your point. Now take that away, as in my post, and there is nothing left from your claim.

 

Guess you missed my reference to the 70's, no surprise you missed things, and no, I'm not living in the 70's.

But yes, globalisation, Nato, hate for Russia, used to be right wing, conservative, no matter how you want to call it.

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2 hours ago, ChouDoufu said:

that would be excellent news if true, some evidence perhaps leading to a resolution.

but don't count your commies before they hatch!  the government has not made an official announcement, and the news reports i've seen are all cut&paste copies of the same article, referencing an anonymous source "with knowledge of" the police investigation.  (is this just metro police?  not national counterterrorism?)

 

and the headlines mostly have "identified" in quote marks.  so far it reads they have CCTV footage, some possible suspects that entered britain on one set of passports and left by another.  so "identified" means they've picked out some persons of interest, but don't yet have identities, assuming all passports were fake.

 

don't know how to take the news article comment that police are "sure" they're russian.

 

interesting.  anxiously awaiting an official announcement, and whether they have anything definitive yet.

 

is there an extradition treaty in effect with the russian federation? 

I believe that Russia does not extradite it's citizens, no matter what the charge or evidence.

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.. no, I'm not living in the 70's.

 

Well, you are, because you are calling President Trump's policies of 2018 "as left-wing as you can get" by comparing them with what the Left wing thought in the 1970s.

 

In the modern era, where the rest of us live, right-wing conservative thought has been associated with nationalism, xenophobia, and anti-globalist economic protectionism.

 

Time to update your model.

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5 minutes ago, RickBradford said:

 

Well, you are, because you are calling President Trump's policies of 2018 "as left-wing as you can get" by comparing them with what the Left wing thought in the 1970s.

 

In the modern era, where the rest of us live, right-wing conservative thought has been associated with nationalism, xenophobia, and anti-globalist economic protectionism.

 

Time to update your model.

It's ok when you clearly don't understand.

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3 hours ago, Topdoc said:

Just because they may have identified Russian suspects doesn't mean that Putin was involved.
If you recall, Julia's prospective mother in law was extremely anti Julia's relationship with her son which seemed to be moving in the direction of marriage. She couldn't stand it that her son was going to get engaged to the daughter of a traitor. 

 

 

Somehow, I'm thinking that most Russian mothers don't typically have access to Novichok -- unless, of course, they have some connection with Putin and Co.
 

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Yulia Skripal’s fiance has gone into hiding amid claims he works for an organisation with links to Vladimir Putin’s feared intelligence service.

Stepan Vikeev and his mother Tatiana Vikeeva have vanished since the attempted murder of double agent Sergei Skripal and his 33-year-old daughter in Salisbury, according to The Mail on Sunday.

Moscow security services have claimed that Stepan, 30, worked for a secretive company called the Institute of Modern Security Problems, run by his mother, 61.

The organisation is said to be an ‘integral part’ of the Federal Security Service of the Russian Federation (FSB). The newspaper added that sources told them Stepan and Tatiana are being protected by Putin’s agents, which have sparked fears that they may have been involved in the nerve agent attack on March 4.

 

 

https://metro.co.uk/2018/04/22/yulia-skripals-fiance-in-hiding-amid-spy-claims-connected-to-vladimir-putin-7487472/

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1 hour ago, evadgib said:

Police are believed to have identified the suspected perpetrators of the  Novichok attack on a Russian ex-spy and his daughter in Salisbury in March, according to reports.

Several Russians were involved in the attempted murder of Sergei and Yulia Skripal, the Press Association says.

They are thought to have been identified through CCTV, cross-checked with border entry data.

Earlier this month,  Dawn Sturgess, 44, died after being poisoned by Novichok.

She and her partner, Charlie Rowley, 45, fell ill on 30 June in Amesbury, Wiltshire. He remains seriously ill in hospital.

More...

https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-44883803

Maybe you missed it but even uk security minister wallace dismissed these claims 

 

but for Thai visa experts appearantly its a jackpot ?

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25 minutes ago, BestB said:

Maybe you missed it but even uk security minister wallace dismissed these claims 

 

but for Thai visa experts appearantly its a jackpot ?

 

dismissal by government officials does not kill fake news people fancy to have faith in

 

 

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13 hours ago, Topdoc said:

Of course, it's not a perfectly accurate cross sample but the Daily Mail and Mail Online are in 1st place with some 23.5m UK readers over the course of a month (2015 data). It's one of the most popular newspapers in the whole world!

The problem here is easily defined by what experience teaches.

NEVER believe anything that you hear which includes all forms of media AND only believe half of what you see with your own eyes.

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