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Expat volunteers in Chiang Mai denied visas in work permit standoff

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16 hours ago, Briggsy said:

How many of these volunteers are evangelists?

Praise the lord! Somebody call Donny Trump. He’s the workd’s most powerful man—am sure he can sort it out. 

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16 hours ago, Briggsy said:

How many of these volunteers are evangelists?

That is the question. Many of the volunteers are asking for more than nothing. 

 

They want souls.

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44 minutes ago, Proboscis said:

For anyone who does not want to be an English teacher, who is too young to retire or who does not meet the documentary requirements of retirement, there is not much else you can do.

You can get married to a Thai.

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16 hours ago, ThaiPauly said:

You couldn't make this stuff up...sheesh

 

They are trying to HELP, they are asking for NOTHING IN RETURN

 

Unbelieveable

Only when envelops are received will anything proceed.The Government of LOS does nothing for free,even to accepting free help. AxxHxxes

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17 hours ago, BritManToo said:

I can see their point, there have been loads of white foreign bogus volunteers in CM getting VISAs.

You pay an agent, they set you up with a charity, you get a 1 year VISA for turning up for 1 or 2 days.

I've known at least two guys in the past who did this (both under 50s).

Yes, and herein lies the problem, the crooked few Vs the genuine many, I was offered this deal, disgraceful Thai crooks are the agents. 

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16 hours ago, BritManToo said:

I can see their point, there have been loads of white foreign bogus volunteers in CM getting VISAs.

You pay an agent, they set you up with a charity, you get a 1 year VISA for turning up for 1 or 2 days.

I've known at least two guys in the past who did this (both under 50s).

 e.g.: Once you "subscribe" with one of the influential, prosperous NGOs in PnomPenh next thing you get is a Toyota Land Cruiser (6cyl., big thing) and sufficient funds for hanging out every night at Riverside, sipping red wine, going for Cambo chicks...good life, indeed. Seen plenty of these French passport holders (port of origin: Algeria, Tunesia and the like)

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In short; Thailand does not want 'outside' help, it could result in loss of face.

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11 minutes ago, thurien said:

 e.g.: Once you "subscribe" with one of the influential, prosperous NGOs in PnomPenh next thing you get is a Toyota Land Cruiser (6cyl., big thing) and sufficient funds for hanging out every night at Riverside, sipping red wine, going for Cambo chicks...good life, indeed. Seen plenty of these French passport holders (port of origin: Algeria, Tunesia and the like) 

Used to see the same thing in Laos back in 2003, lots of western NGO types with their whole families, wives, kids and all (from their home countries) driving around in Land Cruisers in Vientiane and Savannakhet eating at expensive restaurants doing nothing to help the locals and certainly nothing that looks like work. In more recent years, it seems many of these guys have started to disappear and those replacing them are getting younger, are now female and poorer...lol. Instead of middle aged Scandinavian men driving SUVs with their families in tow and hanging out at the riverfront all day, nowadays you either see a Lao person in the driver's seat or some naive "I'm going to save the world" 20 something western girl riding a bicycle through the streets of Vientiane while newly rich locals zoom past in their BMWs, Porsches and Bentleys splashing dust or mud in her face.

 

As for Cambodia, yes, still see that a little bit too but it's not as widespread or obvious as it was when I first visited there in 2003 and just like in Laos, for upcountry expeditions Cambodian drivers seem to have replaced the self-driving middle aged westerners from 15-20 years ago.

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most of the NGOs  give fake statistics in order to keep the administrative wheels greased, complete with private schools, SUVs, and a house in a western style moo baan.

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2 hours ago, MrMo said:

Fired ! ? ! ?   Thai government personnel don't get FIRED.   They just get put on inactive duties to wait out for a nice early retirement followed by a nice little pension.   I have this mental image of a gigantic warehouse out near Don Mueng airport full of Thais in uniform with their feet up on desks.

Seems a lot of hatred towards the volunteers here in this thread. There are always 2 sides to the story. CNX Immigration is a total failure since the new " boss" took over wanting his tea money increased from agents. This week I was caught out by the Monday holiday immigration was shut, but every other shop in the Promenada complex was open. returned Tuesday afternoon. We have Saturday, Sunday, Monday as no open days and many TM 30 people reporting. The number system, bits of paper they hand out had died they were too lazy to put recycled numbers in the spot you collect numbers from, many people walking around confused. I counted 6 IMO sitting in desks doing nothing while 2 women tried to handle the back log that grew every second.  No one that worked there helped them. people kept interrupting them with asking for a number, or what number were they up to and then there are the Thai people " dont you know who I am" jumping the queue.  For a 1 minute process I waited 3.5 hours, welcome to the 19th century.  Can we borrow some workers with a brain from the DM warehouse?

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2 hours ago, suzannegoh said:

Farangs seem to deeply object to evangelicals having a similar standard of living here as they would back home.  I can't count how many times I've heard farangs complain about them eating at Duke's.  "What horrible people, spending 1000 Baht on a meal. For that I could get 12 beers at Mad Dogs!"  Seems to be some envy at play there.

I was responding/reacting to "they have a "call", posted by balo. And regaeding your first sentence, having "similar standard of living here as they would back home". Nothing wrong with that, but in this case it's from tax payers money, not their own.

And envy has nothing to do with this.

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3 minutes ago, 1337markus said:

Seems a lot of hatred towards the volunteers here in this thread. There are always 2 sides to the story. CNX Immigration is a total failure since the new " boss" took over wanting his tea money increased from agents. This week I was caught out by the Monday holiday immigration was shut, but every other shop in the Promenada complex was open. returned Tuesday afternoon. We have Saturday, Sunday, Monday as no open days and many TM 30 people reporting. The number system, bits of paper they hand out had died they were too lazy to put recycled numbers in the spot you collect numbers from, many people walking around confused. I counted 6 IMO sitting in desks doing nothing while 2 women tried to handle the back log that grew every second.  No one that worked there helped them. people kept interrupting them with asking for a number, or what number were they up to and then there are the Thai people " dont you know who I am" jumping the queue.  For a 1 minute process I waited 3.5 hours, welcome to the 19th century.  Can we borrow some workers with a brain from the DM warehouse?

was that for simply a new departure card/same address report?  If so, that really bites the big one.  They let those kind of play through last time, and I was out in a few minutes, but a dozen were obviously suffering.

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