rooster59 Posted August 4, 2018 Share Posted August 4, 2018 Closing Maya Bay cost the Thais 35 million baht in just one month Image: Thai language PBS The head of the national park in Krabi responsible for Maya Bay has said that the closure of the beach to tourists had cost his coffers up to 35 million baht in July alone. The beach is being shut for four months during the monsoon season to help it recover from damage caused by excessive tourism and particularly the arrival of boats. The shortfall for the revenues showed when comparing figures from July of last year when the beach was still open, said Thai language PBS. Head of the Nopparat Thara - Moo Koh Phi Phi national park Waraphot Lormlim said that the major part of the shortfall came from the closure of the beach - but it will all be worth it when the beach recovers. He also said that money was lost by consequences stemming from the boat tragedy in Phuket that claimed many Chinese lives. Thaivisa notes that such stories from PBS are usually available in the English language but this was not the case this time. Source: Thai language PBS -- © Copyright Thai Visa News 2018-08-04 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PatOngo Posted August 4, 2018 Share Posted August 4, 2018 10 minutes ago, rooster59 said: Closing Maya Bay cost the Thais 35 million baht in just one month Their crying can be heard in Chiang Mai! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ezzra Posted August 4, 2018 Share Posted August 4, 2018 This is what happen when unabated rape of the environment is allowed to take place reaping and sucking every baht possible without consideration of long lasting damages, this situation not unique to Maya bay only, many places in Thailand are suffering the same faith... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
happy chappie Posted August 4, 2018 Share Posted August 4, 2018 6 minutes ago, ezzra said: This is what happen when unabated rape of the environment is allowed to take place reaping and sucking every baht possible without consideration of long lasting damages, this situation not unique to Maya bay only, many places in Thailand are suffering the same faith... Couldn't agree more.30 years of tourism on the environment and Thai management,greed are now seeing the full impact.too late I'm afraid to say.what took 10,000s of years to create won't be recovered in a few months for sure. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
overherebc Posted August 4, 2018 Share Posted August 4, 2018 4 minutes ago, happy chappie said: Couldn't agree more.30 years of tourism on the environment and Thai management,greed are now seeing the full impact.too late I'm afraid to say.what took 10,000s of years to create won't be recovered in a few months for sure. And even when it opens tourists should be allowed a sail around and out again to photograph the beach. No-one allowed a foot on the beach. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chrisinth Posted August 4, 2018 Share Posted August 4, 2018 Was there any sort of breakdown into how they came to 35 million baht loss for just one month? And only affecting National Parks coffers? how many visitors in one month? how much expenditure from one tourist? With my rough calculations, that would be a sh1tload....................... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
overherebc Posted August 4, 2018 Share Posted August 4, 2018 3 minutes ago, chrisinth said: Was there any sort of breakdown into how they came to 35 million baht loss for just one month? And only affecting National Parks coffers? how many visitors in one month? how much expenditure from one tourist? With my rough calculations, that would be a sh1tload....................... Some of the photos I've seen it was almost impossible to see the sand, a lot of idiots taking selfies standing shoulder to shoulder with more idiots. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vacuum Posted August 4, 2018 Share Posted August 4, 2018 It should be closed for at least one year. Four months will do nothing to recover the damage. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chrisinth Posted August 4, 2018 Share Posted August 4, 2018 11 minutes ago, overherebc said: Some of the photos I've seen it was almost impossible to see the sand, a lot of idiots taking selfies standing shoulder to shoulder with more idiots. I hear you, I have seen similar photos. What I'm saying though is the numbers of people visiting in a month, and how they get to 35 million baht. Even if we call it optimistically 1,000,000 people a month, that would be 33,000 daily visitors a day. Could Maya bay even take that? And from that theoretical 33,000, how much would they spend in a day at Maya? I don't know, maybe possible? Or not. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
overherebc Posted August 4, 2018 Share Posted August 4, 2018 2 minutes ago, chrisinth said: I hear you, I have seen similar photos. What I'm saying though is the numbers of people visiting in a month, and how they get to 35 million baht. Even if we call it optimistically 1,000,000 people a month, that would be 33,000 daily visitors a day. Could Maya bay even take that? And from that theoretical 33,000, how much would they spend in a day at Maya? I don't know, maybe possible? Or not. ? Even 3 shifts a day it would be hard to get that number in. ( even if they sre chinese ) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bluespunk Posted August 4, 2018 Share Posted August 4, 2018 1 hour ago, rooster59 said: The head of the national park in Krabi responsible for Maya Bay has said that the closure of the beach to tourists had cost his coffers up to 35 million baht in July alone. Tough. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
quadperfect Posted August 4, 2018 Share Posted August 4, 2018 More fake news. Number are not realistic. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
seajae Posted August 4, 2018 Share Posted August 4, 2018 as we have come to expect all that matters to thais is the amount of money they can make, they dont give a sh*t about the environment and the damage that is being done to it as long as they are profiting from the destruction. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mok199 Posted August 4, 2018 Share Posted August 4, 2018 they will find someone else to blame Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
from the home of CC Posted August 4, 2018 Share Posted August 4, 2018 but how much have they made in the last 30 yrs destroying it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Briggsy Posted August 4, 2018 Share Posted August 4, 2018 35,000,000 / 400 (Cost to enter National Park) = 87,500 visitors per day. Say 25 per boat gives 87,500 / 25 = 3500 boats per day. I would like an audit of these figures. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cadbury Posted August 4, 2018 Share Posted August 4, 2018 Some win, some lose. Maya Bay National Park has lost out on this one for a while but Chiang Rai will be a winner soon with the new museum and cave attraction. That will be a gold mine for some and last like Maya Bay until it too is environmentally destroyed by tourists and local opportunists. Rinse and repeat for just about every popular tourist attraction in Thailand. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Colabamumbai Posted August 4, 2018 Share Posted August 4, 2018 But it saved 100 million Baht in additional damage to the coastline. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Get Real Posted August 4, 2018 Share Posted August 4, 2018 I remember specifically that we had one member on TV, that had a long discussion with me in earlier news about Maya Bay. He argued and got angry because I didn´t believe him when he said that closing Maya Bay would not cost anybody anything? I guess, eeeh?? Oh, let´s just say that he remember himself and now finally understand how wrong he was. Still not saying that closing Maya Bay is wrong. It is needed for recovery, but that does not take away the joy of beeing right regarding the costs. Let´s just say that you hide away from the discussion this time. You know who you are. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
coulson Posted August 4, 2018 Share Posted August 4, 2018 Money money money Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
British Bulldog Posted August 4, 2018 Share Posted August 4, 2018 I've sailed in there several times, we only latch on to a mooring have a swim, a snack and move on, we certainly don't consider heading for the beach, after about 08.30 it is ridiculous how many power boats come from the main land and Phi Phi ... but if we looked at the figs like this; 35,000,00 Baht divide by say; 500 baht per head for the boat charge to get there, that's 70,000 people per month so a tad over 2000 per day ... yep, that possible from sun up to sundown, however, there is a fee to pay when you touch the beach itself, I guess the boatmen pay for his passengers, from memory its about 200 baht each ... so add that to the baht figs or reduce the number of people, either way, its possible ... As some members suggest, close down the beach and allow a limited number of people to cruise around inside the bay for 5 minutes ... Also, from what I recall, there are no shops on the beach, maybe a couple of vendors on the first boats that go over ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brucec64 Posted August 4, 2018 Share Posted August 4, 2018 I hear you, I have seen similar photos. What I'm saying though is the numbers of people visiting in a month, and how they get to 35 million baht. Even if we call it optimistically 1,000,000 people a month, that would be 33,000 daily visitors a day. Could Maya bay even take that? And from that theoretical 33,000, how much would they spend in a day at Maya? I don't know, maybe possible? Or not.it's 400 baht a person to step on the beach, so the 35 million would be 3-4 thousand a day, which is very realistic.Sent from my SM-N950U1 using Thailand Forum - Thaivisa mobile app Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sammieuk1 Posted August 4, 2018 Share Posted August 4, 2018 4 hours ago, PatOngo said: Their crying can be heard in Chiang Mai! No that's my crying at the state of the pound? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rosst Posted August 5, 2018 Share Posted August 5, 2018 21 hours ago, overherebc said: Some of the photos I've seen it was almost impossible to see the sand, a lot of idiots taking selfies standing shoulder to shoulder with more idiots. Take a tip from Malaysia, strict daily limits for access to some areas and you need to pay for a place, good idea, limited numbers and finance for management. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DrTuner Posted August 5, 2018 Share Posted August 5, 2018 Put the ticket price for the bay to 20k/head. Might bring a couple western tourists back when you don't have to fight for lebensraum against the commie hordes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thian Posted August 5, 2018 Share Posted August 5, 2018 On 8/4/2018 at 7:50 AM, overherebc said: Some of the photos I've seen it was almost impossible to see the sand, a lot of idiots taking selfies standing shoulder to shoulder with more idiots. Exactly, but it's so strange that Westerners don't come to Thailand anymore like before. I have been the only person on maya beach for many hours.....long time ago. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lamyai3 Posted August 6, 2018 Share Posted August 6, 2018 On 8/4/2018 at 12:59 PM, Vacuum said: It should be closed for at least one year. Four months will do nothing to recover the damage. Even if it was, it'd be trashed again within a few weeks of reopening. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lamyai3 Posted August 6, 2018 Share Posted August 6, 2018 4 hours ago, Thian said: I have been the only person on maya beach for many hours.....long time ago. Yes, I even went there a couple of years after The Beach movie made it famous, and it was still pleasantly quiet back then (albeit low season). Not been since, hard to imagine what it's turned in to. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thian Posted August 6, 2018 Share Posted August 6, 2018 34 minutes ago, lamyai3 said: Yes, I even went there a couple of years after The Beach movie made it famous, and it was still pleasantly quiet back then (albeit low season). Not been since, hard to imagine what it's turned in to. I was there 25 years ago and i was amazed that there was nothing living in the undeep water except sea-cucumbers. No fish or anything swimming there. But on the path from the beach to the village were thousands of small red crabs with a big nipper. They always sat there together. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
overherebc Posted August 6, 2018 Share Posted August 6, 2018 8 minutes ago, Thian said: I was there 25 years ago and i was amazed that there was nothing living in the undeep water except sea-cucumbers. No fish or anything swimming there. But on the path from the beach to the village were thousands of small red crabs with a big nipper. They always sat there together. Crabs. Poor things have probably all been curried by this time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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