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BANGKOK 17 February 2019 14:42
Damian Murray

Building a western style house compared to Thai build

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1 hour ago, Damian Murray said:

Thank you so much guys for all your tips and hints, I think my main issues were about tying the blocks into the colums which my Thai wife said doesn't happen too much, her parents house has major cracks in the corners where it hasn't been tied in, I do understand that you will have settling cracks no problem but looks like I'll just have to insist on colums ties during the build, also with the cavity wall, I'm trying to keep the heat out, I don't mind going overkill on the insulation if it will def work, another quick question, has anyone ever used block and beem for the sub floor? Is it cheaper than a solid concrete floor as my wife wants the house raised a few mts of the ground

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We used these pre-cast slabs.. commonly available.. I think.. Not expensive..  They measure and make to size and put in place as you see.. a thin layer on concrete is poured over the top..  works well..

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I am interested to note that everybody is talking concrete construction. I looked at it and felt that concrete would be just a big storage heater so went for timber. Conscious of the termite issue here I designed a European style house with modifications to suit the climate, precut it at home, and loaded it all into a container along with large Bifold windows and doors. Advantages of this were that all the timber was treated to exclude termites, could be nailed without drilling and stayed nice and straight when drying. It all made for easy concealed electrical wiring and plumbing, and the structural design was to full earthquake standards. The house definitely remains cooler inside  than the outside and I put this down to the exterior walls not being storage heaters and the Bifold windows open the house wide allowing for plenty of air movement. We have been in the house now for 6 years and have had absolutely no termite or cracking issues anywhere. No regrets at all. 

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After initially living in a rented house with single block walls, I went for double skin (cavity) walls.  The heat transferred from a single wall that has the sun stays hot on the inside just like a storage heater.  I have an insulated roof, cavity walls with foam insulation and even without aircon, the house remains cool inside.

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27 minutes ago, KIWILEE said:

I looked at it and felt that concrete would be just a big storage heater so went for timber.

How are you doing for insurance? Timber homes have an annoying habit of going up in smoke rather readily ?

 

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3 hours ago, johng said:

How ?    have you patented this revolutionary discovery ?

Outside the house there is bright sunshine which can be devastatingly hot and, even though the air is moving it feels hot. Inside the house the internal walls never heat up to external ambient which in turn keeps the air cooler. This is simple, basic physics. It is not a revolutionary discovery although I suspect you think otherwise? Don't forget that the bricks and mortar store cool as well as heat. This can be a problem in the night time when the temperature stored in the walls is higher than the cooler air outside. 

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We have full insurance but it did take a bit of work and several visits from the company. Not sure how it compares to a concrete house but it seems reasonable.

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1 hour ago, Laza 45 said:

We used these pre-cast slabs.. commonly available.. I think.. Not expensive..  They measure and make to size and put in place as you see.. a thin layer on concrete is poured over the top..  works well..

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 We did the same upstairs 

The preformed planks were installed (a common practice in Thailand) and then an aditional couple of inches of concrete was poured

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59 minutes ago, DJ54 said:

Here’s a couple pictures of House we had built.  

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Very nice, I like your outside spaces, and outside color scheme, not crazy about the blue ceiling, rule of thumb , light colored ceilings make the room look taller, but I get the being married to a Thai concept  and I get the ' better to sleep with a dark ceiling than sleep with out a wife" LOL

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The OP would gain a real understanding of what is actually available when building a home in Thailand if he visited the Architect Expo held in early May in Bangkok. Most every modern building product is readily available in Thailand. It is just not on display at the locaL Thai Watsadu or small builders merchants store. I've visited far too many "estates" or "home projects" and you realize which developers or home builders spend time to source quality energy efficient materials and which builders and developers cut corners.   If you bring a thermal temperature gun to any house in Thailand you can see actual differences in outside and interior temperature due to the wall materials.   http://www.architectexpo.com/2018/photo-gallery/   There are no "Odd house paint colors" in Thailand according to my wife. 

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1. Many mention dampproof courses.  I have look at many houses just for renting. There were many that smelt of damp mildew. Which is not good for anyone's health

2 . Again many mention this. Cracks around windows. This again I have seen and found around all four corners of windows and tops of doors. There is no such thing as a lintel over the tops of many of these. Not good for the resale value of the house if you need to move.

3. Best advice is to find a Western owned construction company with Thai workers. The Western owner will likely understand the best of both worlds

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I personally like the Thai style. I think it is for the climate and the culture.

Yes, there is a lot of bricks, then concrete over the bricks. There is also a lot of rebar.

There are  (3) two-story houses being built on the property where I rent.

I have watched the building of one house that is 3 meters from my front door.

I will move into that  rental house on September 1, 2018.

Yes, the Thai building way and style is different from the USA, but this is Thailand, not the USA.

Many hundreds of thousands of Thai buildings have been around for 700 years ?

My question is : Do you plan on living 700 years ?

Go with the Thai style, otherwise, you look like and outcast.

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27 minutes ago, themerg said:

Many hundreds of thousands of Thai buildings have been around for 700 years ?

 

Some housing projects look 700 yrs old... 

I wouldn't say the modern Thai style buildings will last 100 yrs though.

Cost vs quality is the barrier these days, as it is everywhere if not controlled...

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1 hour ago, themerg said:

Many hundreds of thousands of Thai buildings have been around for 700 years ?

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