rooster59 Posted August 11, 2018 Share Posted August 11, 2018 National parks’ ban on plastics By Karnjana Lao Nationgraphics Nationgraphics/Karnjana Lao Starting on August 12, all disposable plastic containers, cutlery and straws will be banned from 154 national parks throughout the country Source: http://www.nationmultimedia.com/detail/national/30351915 -- © Copyright The Nation 2018-08-11 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
George Bowman Posted August 11, 2018 Share Posted August 11, 2018 In a few parks, there have been signs up for awhile. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bluespunk Posted August 11, 2018 Share Posted August 11, 2018 Excellent news. Lets hope its followed through. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
edwinchester Posted August 11, 2018 Share Posted August 11, 2018 A bottle is a container, so no plastic bottles in National Parks? No way will this be enforced. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
canuckamuck Posted August 11, 2018 Share Posted August 11, 2018 Happy to hear about the plastics ban. Good idea. On a side note, does anyone bother to decipher those Nation graphics. What a jumbled bunch of gobbledygook they are. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Samui Bodoh Posted August 11, 2018 Share Posted August 11, 2018 This is a nice, 'feel good' policy which will almost certainly not work; policy without enforcement rarely leads to anything, sadly. How many members think this will be enforced? How many members think fines will be levied? How many members think that park staff will actually monitor sites? I'd love to see this enforced, but I have lived in Thailand too long to believe that it will be. Unfortunately... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cmsally Posted August 11, 2018 Share Posted August 11, 2018 Wouldn't it just be easier to ban 7-11 from giving them out in the first place? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sammieuk1 Posted August 11, 2018 Share Posted August 11, 2018 Bring your own Panther to shoot to? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
madmitch Posted August 11, 2018 Share Posted August 11, 2018 Many year ago you had to declare how many plastic bottles you took into Erawan National Park and they'd check you had the same number when you departed. I've no idea of what would happen if you returned with fewer bottles (or more??), but I've only ever seen this practice in this one park. How are the locals going to organise their picnics without plastic? I'll have to go to a National Park soon and observe! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RotMahKid Posted August 11, 2018 Share Posted August 11, 2018 Nothing will happen. It's just an announcement, first try to tell this to all Thai people. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
robblok Posted August 11, 2018 Share Posted August 11, 2018 2 hours ago, Bluespunk said: Excellent news. Lets hope its followed through. In Thailand you can make all the laws in the world.. when the minnions are either lazy or corrupt.. the laws wont have any effect. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
anon789561 Posted August 11, 2018 Share Posted August 11, 2018 i'm all for deterring the use of plastics but they are saying you can't even carry a bottle of water into the parks, i don't think they thought this through Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
smedly Posted August 11, 2018 Share Posted August 11, 2018 6 hours ago, Bluespunk said: Excellent news. Lets hope its followed through. I think it is great to ban plastic but as usual Thailand hasn't given this much thought You must have a safe environmentally friendly alternative in place before you start banning stuff Lets take it to an extreme and ban all plastics from shops supermarkets and market sellers - what then, you must provide an alternative before you start banning stuff Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bluespunk Posted August 11, 2018 Share Posted August 11, 2018 11 minutes ago, smedly said: I think it is great to ban plastic but as usual Thailand hasn't given this much thought You must have a safe environmentally friendly alternative in place before you start banning stuff Lets take it to an extreme and ban all plastics from shops supermarkets and market sellers - what then, you must provide an alternative before you start banning stuff I agree to a certain extent. I would quite happily ban all single use plastic bags and replace with biodegradable plastics or paper. Likewise plastic bottles should be replaced with biodegradable plastic or glass. In the U.K. this summer I ate at a place where it’s single use plates and coffee/hot drink cups were made from biodegradable materials. (Sugarcane I think). Got their suppliers details and will pass on to my place of work. The only way to reduce the environmental catastrophe that plastic represents, is to reduce our use. Reuse and recycle are fine but are not a long term solution for me. The real solution is reduction. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
smedly Posted August 11, 2018 Share Posted August 11, 2018 26 minutes ago, Bluespunk said: I agree to a certain extent. I would quite happily ban all single use plastic bags and replace with biodegradable plastics or paper. Likewise plastic bottles should be replaced with biodegradable plastic or glass. In the U.K. this summer I ate at a place where it’s single use plates and coffee/hot drink cups were made from biodegradable materials. (Sugarcane I think). Got their suppliers details and will pass on to my place of work. The only way to reduce the environmental catastrophe that plastic represents, is to reduce our use. Reuse and recycle are fine but are not a long term solution for me. The real solution is reduction. everything you mention is great but there must a usable alternative in place Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bluespunk Posted August 11, 2018 Share Posted August 11, 2018 11 minutes ago, smedly said: everything you mention is great but there must a usable alternative in place All those alternatives I mention exist and are useable. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
overherebc Posted August 11, 2018 Share Posted August 11, 2018 6 hours ago, madmitch said: Many year ago you had to declare how many plastic bottles you took into Erawan National Park and they'd check you had the same number when you departed. I've no idea of what would happen if you returned with fewer bottles (or more??), but I've only ever seen this practice in this one park. How are the locals going to organise their picnics without plastic? I'll have to go to a National Park soon and observe! QED. ??? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
peperobi Posted August 11, 2018 Share Posted August 11, 2018 Was all ready a long time ago, was not working well because none feel responsible for taking care of. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mok199 Posted August 11, 2018 Share Posted August 11, 2018 More noise from the loudest country on the planet...hope they recycle that pie chart,printed on plastic... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bluesofa Posted August 11, 2018 Share Posted August 11, 2018 2 hours ago, smedly said: everything you mention is great but there must a usable alternative in place So far I not seen anyone in Thailand producing 'plastic' bags that are made from natural materials and can degrade without any problems. Other countries are already doing it. Here's one from India: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cake Monster Posted August 11, 2018 Share Posted August 11, 2018 9 hours ago, cmsally said: Wouldn't it just be easier to ban 7-11 from giving them out in the first place? And only today, I noticed on a 7/11 plastic carrier bag the words " 7/11 going Green " Who are they trying to kid ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
connda Posted August 11, 2018 Share Posted August 11, 2018 Best of luck enforcing that ban. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rwill Posted August 11, 2018 Share Posted August 11, 2018 9 hours ago, madmitch said: Many year ago you had to declare how many plastic bottles you took into Erawan National Park and they'd check you had the same number when you departed. I've no idea of what would happen if you returned with fewer bottles (or more??), but I've only ever seen this practice in this one park. How are the locals going to organise their picnics without plastic? I'll have to go to a National Park soon and observe! They make you pay a deposit on the bottles now and you get it back when you return to the checkpoint. 25 baht when I was there a couple years ago. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rwill Posted August 11, 2018 Share Posted August 11, 2018 Villa Market uses biodegradable bags. I recently bought some plastic planters from Homepro and they have stickers on them saying they are biodegradable too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Whip Posted August 11, 2018 Share Posted August 11, 2018 9 hours ago, madmitch said: Many year ago you had to declare how many plastic bottles you took into Erawan National Park and they'd check you had the same number when you departed. I've no idea of what would happen if you returned with fewer bottles (or more??), but I've only ever seen this practice in this one park. How are the locals going to organise their picnics without plastic? I'll have to go to a National Park soon and observe! Now if they can just get rid of the dogs Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris Lawrence Posted August 11, 2018 Share Posted August 11, 2018 So what is the solution? What did we do before plastic? Ahhh sunlight soap is on the come back. So who is taking their jars glass bottles and tin cans to the shops so they don't walk out with plastic? If your not doing this its all hot air, saying something to make out your better than others. I remember going to the corner store and buying a pound of Ice VoVo's out of the tub that went into a paper bag. That's how it was done. The way shopping centre's are set up now this would never work. How much plastic are they still selling but the guilt trip is put on the consumer. A crock of sh*t, if you ask me. I am all for reducing pollution but what I am seeing is that we buy out plastic bags now that are bigger and fit 3+ times as much in that the old plastic bags held. The supermarkets in OZ are expected to make $70 million on removing the free bags and selling the new ones to you. I just get 3-4 bags before I shop and crush them up so they come out winkled. I am a bit of a deviant this way. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris Lawrence Posted August 11, 2018 Share Posted August 11, 2018 3 hours ago, overherebc said: QED. ??? Are you going to have dinner in the store. I like your idea. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
overherebc Posted August 11, 2018 Share Posted August 11, 2018 15 minutes ago, Chris Lawrence said: Are you going to have dinner in the store. I like your idea. Not sure what you mean by 'in the store' ?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
upu2 Posted August 11, 2018 Share Posted August 11, 2018 Be a little bit awkward if you wanted to do a bit of hiking with no water to drink Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kwilco Posted August 13, 2018 Share Posted August 13, 2018 Enforcement will probably take the usual course. They haven't even really defined what will and what won't be allowed in even....just another failure by the DNP. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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