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BANGKOK 24 March 2019 07:23
macb

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I am starting this Topic purle as a manual for dog training lessons and tips for you; If you could keep your questions revolving around the Topic and training. Any other qestions need to go in my other Topic where Bina and I try to help you with you geberal problems

1st lesson in obedience

'Walking to Heel

Assuming you have got the right check chain and lead and play article I prefer a rag for tug of war in your left pocket. (The reason I use the rag is it keeps the dog with you while training)

Your dog will always be on your left side with the lead in your right hand Why the right hand because your left hand is for praising your dog.

So you got the dog on the left side place him/her in the sit if you do not have this then as you say the command sit slide your hand down the dogs back to the rump at the same time raising the lead above the dogs head, so the lead encourages the head up and the hand encourages the rump to the sit, important praise.

Now Now the dog is in the sit.

When you move off you will use the command HEEL, lead with you left leg and a little pursuasion with the lead to keep the dog next to your left knee at the same time praising with your left, only walk in a straight line at the moment put stops in saying Sit then praise, dont bore the dog. Little and often. At the end of the excercise over exagerate getting the rag out your pocket and play tug of war. If your dog will not play tug of war try tit bits this is the Shutzan method of training, or a ball (A ball is okay if your dog comes back with it)

Well thats a start :

Next installment lefts and rights, if you not sure ask.

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:D:o:D

Sorry, Macb, this just reminds me of the time I was trying to train my beach strays. Heel worked fine as long as a) they never smelled any food lying around, :D there were no new dogs to check out or c) they knew that I was carrying dinner in my hand.

But, this is a great start for all canine carers. Tutsi, where are you?

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Lets talk about turning left and right

Okay so we are setting off with our dog walking to heel, if he drifts away from your left leg just bring him back with a quick tug on the lead and release immediately followed by verbal praise (Soft voice) and praise with left hand.

Continue this action un til he is walking next to you with a slack lead, (the lead must be slack at all times unless you correct him)

Okay turning left and right:

Walking in a straight line at this stage create a curve when you turn left or right and gradually reduce the curve, the same when you do an about turn (imagine a hairpin slowly curve your about turn).

Remember each time you stop your dog is in the sit:

Now as you progress and put your stops in. with the flat of you left hand in front of your dogs nose say the Command STAY Keep hold of the lead slowly walk round the front or your dog all the way round till you are back at his left side then quietly praise him with your left hand then move off again.

Now only ever say a Command once, your dog needs to re-act to your command when you say it not three repeats later.

ALSO IF POSSSIBLE DO YOU OBEDIENCE AT THE SAME LOCATION EACH TIME THAT WAY HE WILL GET TO KNOW THIS AREA IS FOR LEARNING.

Take your time little and often you will soon see results if not sure about something ask me

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:D:o:D

Sorry, Macb, this just reminds me of the time I was trying to train my beach strays. Heel worked fine as long as a) they never smelled any food lying around, :D there were no new dogs to check out or c) they knew that I was carrying dinner in my hand.

But, this is a great start for all canine carers. Tutsi, where are you?

That sounds a bit like me JG smell food etc cant keep a staright line :D

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TRAINING THE DOWN

Now we have our dog walking to heel we can incorperate the down as part of his walking to heel routine:

It is easier initially to put your dog in the down from the sit posistion, so we are walking to heel we stop give the command SIT. Now from this position combine the Command DOWN as you take the lead to the ground underneath his head and with your left hand on his shoulders pushing him gently down once then when down dont forget the praise keep him there when you stand, now bring the lead up and command sit, then you can move on walking to heel.

In time you will have walking to heel, sit, and down.

DOWN is considered the safe position never recall him from the down, if you dog is down place him in the sit first then recall him.

You will find as you progress that you dog will sit on his own when you stop and will go down when you say.

The thing to rember is not try to do to much and bore the dog. always remeber praise and play at the end of a session

More soon

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Keep it coming macb, some good advice there :D:o

THanks for your comments I will be adding more just been a bit busy with the New baby hang in there I mate.

In the meantime any training questions feel free to ask either here or in the Behaviour Topic.

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Yes, not so much a question, but an observation regarding dominance. My boy is 6 months coming on 7, and I think he is going to be a handful, he is always trying to "mouth" me when we play, when we sit down in the evening I like to groom him (to keep the bonding going & to keep giving him the message that I'm Alpha) yet he always tries to turn the table and groom me. In the house (he lives indoors) I don't let him get his own way so to speak, he is not allowed upstairs, has to wait for either myself or my wife to walk through doorways then he can follow, he has many toys in the house but we keep them in his bed, we don't like them all over the living room, so we are always trying to show him he is part of the pack, but way down in the pecking order, just wondering what else we can do. Also when it comes to telling a dog off, what is the best way? I should have added above that I have tried the test where you put the dog on its back and gently hold him there with your hand on his belly, he lasts about 15 secs...... like I said very dominant and strong willed.

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Yes, not so much a question, but an observation regarding dominance. My boy is 6 months coming on 7, and I think he is going to be a handful, he is always trying to "mouth" me when we play, when we sit down in the evening I like to groom him (to keep the bonding going & to keep giving him the message that I'm Alpha) yet he always tries to turn the table and groom me. In the house (he lives indoors) I don't let him get his own way so to speak, he is not allowed upstairs, has to wait for either myself or my wife to walk through doorways then he can follow, he has many toys in the house but we keep them in his bed, we don't like them all over the living room, so we are always trying to show him he is part of the pack, but way down in the pecking order, just wondering what else we can do. Also when it comes to telling a dog off, what is the best way? I should have added above that I have tried the test where you put the dog on its back and gently hold him there with your hand on his belly, he lasts about 15 secs...... like I said very dominant and strong willed.

Have you done any obedience with him ?

Obedience is the key to dogs understanding you are the Master (Forget the pack thing) Your human he is a dog and your best friend.

Answer this first then we go from there :

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TRAINING THE RECALL

Assuming that basic obedience is going well and you have your dog sitting on command !

As your walking with your dog to heel in time you will find that when you stop he will sit automatically, so with your dog in the sit holding an exrended training lead in your right hand with the palm of your left hand in front of his nose give thge Command

STAY now walk forward to the length of the training lead turn and face your dog wait a few seconds then give the Command at the same time bringing him into to you with the lead when he arrives lots of gentle praise, out with the play rag and big Fuss.

Keep doing this method till he pre-empts you tugging the lead and comes to you of his own accord include it as an excercise with what you have alreadsy achieved.

Always finish an excercise with your dog sitting on your left side in the sit.

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Started training him properly two weeks ago, up until then he was far too excitable to take it seriously, so I let him get a little older before demanding too much from him. Right now he is walking to heel quite well with a choke chain (hate that word, do we still call it choker in the UK or a check chain?), and sits when told 7 out of ten times, the other 3 times I have to ease him to sit, I have started the down command, but not progressing much with that, I always have ease him down, I am also working on Stay, but again not doing too well, but Down & Stay I have only introduced over the last few days, I think within the next 3 or 4 days I should be seeing much better results? This is my first dog, I have always had dogs in my family as a child, so I'm not new to them, just I have never had to train one before, that was always my dads department.

I am aware though that even the most well trained young dog can revert to the wild, my dads last male GSD (he has had two bitches since then, and three or for males before that) turned from being obedient to a monster at the age of 1 and a half, he was well trained, and never showed any sign of being aggressive, then one day he flipped and went in on my dad (whilst they were playing tug), not just a quick snap, he repeatedly came in to attack, my dad had to hit him 4 or 5 times with a broom to stop him (the dog only stopped after my dad fearing serious injury struck the dog over the head, which broke the broom), my dad had to have medical attention. After this he spoke to the local constabulary whether they could work him and after a visit was told "no, too aggresive, try the forces", which he did and was also told no, unfortunately the dog had to be put to sleep.

(Please don’t read this and think my father is an animal abuser, he has kept animals all his life, this is the only time I have ever seen him raise a hand to any animal, but I do think he was justified in doing so).

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Wanted to add this above but Edit is not working for some reason, anyhow

I refer to the term "Pack" because so many websites that I have looked at for information regarding training seem to teach with a philosophy of dogs in packs do this, that or the other...... so we should approach "whatever" like this......., guess you know what I'm talking about though right?

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macb, i like your training style and also the approach that obedience is the key and that man is the master/friend of dog and not so much the alpha dog/pack approach. i got many dogs and i don't think they see me as leader of the pack rather than their master and they behave to so called alpha dogs differently than to me although very obedient. another example is that many of my dogs sleep with me in my bed (yes...) and they like to sleep in physical contact with me like kuddling close or putting their head on my leg etc, they rarely do that with each other and never with dogs in high ranks. just an observation... funny although that they almost only eat in my presence, when i go away they leave the food alone, also some of my dogs rarely play and are not very active when i'm not with them.

keep it coming - very interesting read, thanks.

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Yes, not so much a question, but an observation regarding dominance. My boy is 6 months coming on 7, and I think he is going to be a handful, he is always trying to "mouth" me when we play, when we sit down in the evening I like to groom him (to keep the bonding going & to keep giving him the message that I'm Alpha) yet he always tries to turn the table and groom me. In the house (he lives indoors) I don't let him get his own way so to speak, he is not allowed upstairs, has to wait for either myself or my wife to walk through doorways then he can follow, he has many toys in the house but we keep them in his bed, we don't like them all over the living room, so we are always trying to show him he is part of the pack, but way down in the pecking order, just wondering what else we can do. Also when it comes to telling a dog off, what is the best way? I should have added above that I have tried the test where you put the dog on its back and gently hold him there with your hand on his belly, he lasts about 15 secs...... like I said very dominant and strong willed.

i've heard many times that bangkaeows are a rather strong-willed and stubborn breed, very self secure, one-man dogs and reluctant to strangers, though very intelligent of course. so you might have to do a little bit more work on his obedience than with 'easier' breeds like gsd, golden, dalmatians etc. :o

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Elfe Thanks for your commments;

Solent01

Okay straight away I will say you are being to soft with the dog (Check chain) not Choker.

1 Say your Command always only once re-enforce it with correction from the check chain a tiny bit of discomfort does not harm your dog followed by praise when excercise achieved.

2. It is hard to train handlers and there dogs on here, but never mind we will get you there.

3 Have you got Skype ?

4 Are you Domiciled in THailand.

Dont worry you not been training him long I will get you there.

Heres the philosophy. First dog you make the mistakes. 2nd Dog you get things right. 3rd Dog is spot on 100%.

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