Andrew108 Posted August 24, 2018 Share Posted August 24, 2018 I’ve seen a lot of teaching jobs in BKK being advertised for 35K a month. I can’t quite understand who would accept such a low salary. My guess is that 45K a month would be the bare minimum for Bangkok. So, how many of you earn that 45K a month? And for those of you on 35K - how do you survive? * Please don’t post if you work at an international school. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FritsSikkink Posted August 24, 2018 Share Posted August 24, 2018 What is your salary? Show a picture of you girlfriend and your pets, not if you have a cat. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andrew108 Posted August 24, 2018 Author Share Posted August 24, 2018 I’m not working as a teacher in Thailand at the moment. If anyone feels this question about salaries is inappropriate then just don’t post. My feeling is that many teachers might feel that 35K is the norm. Is it the norm? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scott Posted August 24, 2018 Share Posted August 24, 2018 I worked for a school which had affiliates that I helped at, so I had responsibility at more than one school. I earned a monthly base salary of 78,000 baht + 6,000 baht for the other two schools for a total of 90,000 baht per month. Some times I was seconded to additional schools so there was some additional salary for those, but it wasn't consistent. I also had all transportation and housing paid for, which varied. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WonnabeBiker Posted August 26, 2018 Share Posted August 26, 2018 I'm one of those bottom feeder, although outside Bangkok. The day job brings < 35 k and in a good month, I might make 50% of Scott's 90 k. Working 7 days a week. A Thai friend is teaching nursing at a university @ 1,200 THB an hour. A superb young teacher, Chula-trained, was making barely 10 k although her TOEIC score would be hundreds of points higher than that man's from Ghana who also got free housing. Apparently, national origin trumps ability. The bestt Thai teachers deserve the right to compete against all foreigners! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andrew108 Posted August 26, 2018 Author Share Posted August 26, 2018 You work 7 days a week and get less than 40K? That must be quite tough. Is it that you don’t have the necessary qualifications? I know of some non-NES teachers earning more than that and would describe their English fluency level as intermediate. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SlyAnimal Posted August 26, 2018 Share Posted August 26, 2018 My school pays 36k per month (Just 11 months of the year tho), but we're out in the sticks and don't really have to work very hard (max 18 teaching hours per week, go home when you're not teaching etc & is a govt school, so lots of holidays). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
car720 Posted August 29, 2018 Share Posted August 29, 2018 On 8/25/2018 at 6:48 AM, Scott said: I worked for a school which had affiliates that I helped at, so I had responsibility at more than one school. I earned a monthly base salary of 78,000 baht + 6,000 baht for the other two schools for a total of 90,000 baht per month. Some times I was seconded to additional schools so there was some additional salary for those, but it wasn't consistent. I also had all transportation and housing paid for, which varied. Damn. and I thought the 30,000 that I got was average because that is what everyone else was getting paid. It hasn't changed much either in the last 30 odd years. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
car720 Posted August 29, 2018 Share Posted August 29, 2018 On 8/26/2018 at 8:51 PM, Andrew108 said: You work 7 days a week and get less than 40K? That must be quite tough. Is it that you don’t have the necessary qualifications? I know of some non-NES teachers earning more than that and would describe their English fluency level as intermediate. Man, you have been talking to the wrong people. Not many on much more than 30-35k a month. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bkkgriz Posted August 29, 2018 Share Posted August 29, 2018 I haven't worked in BKK for a few years but my base salary was 55,000 baht and 8 months out of the year the teaching staff taught extra classes and earned on average 15,000 a month extra. No housing or transportation allowance. We were allowed to eat school lunch for free. We passed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OmarZaid Posted August 29, 2018 Share Posted August 29, 2018 In 2004, for 1 year I taught English Composition and Conversation to professionals at a Private Tuition center in Bangkok, Sukumvit, Soi 2. Salary at 30,000/month Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stevemercer Posted August 29, 2018 Share Posted August 29, 2018 All the teachers I know (Isaan based) at government high schools get 30,000 - 35,000 Baht. The teaching hours average around 20 hours per week, but are often much more (e.g. to cover absent teachers etc). At most schools it is necessary to clock in in the morning, but can generally leave after the one's last class (most would have one or two free afternoons per week). TEFL qualifications, age limits, 4-yer degree requirements etc can sometimes be gotten around because there is a shortage of teachers. I don;t know of anyone teaching who has TEFL. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cereal Posted August 29, 2018 Share Posted August 29, 2018 Those wages suck compared to Laos, but Laos is more expensive than Thailand. Still, $1500/month here is rock bottom salary. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Elfin Posted August 29, 2018 Share Posted August 29, 2018 On 8/26/2018 at 6:44 PM, WonnabeBiker said: A Thai friend is teaching nursing at a university @ 1,200 THB an hour. Does your Thai friend have a Masters degree from overseas or a PHD? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
otherstuff1957 Posted August 29, 2018 Share Posted August 29, 2018 I work at a private EP/Bilingual school. 65K base + about 2k housing + 5K for being a department head. 15 years ago I started at 30K. Since then I've had a raise of about 2-4K per year, every year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thesetat2013 Posted August 29, 2018 Share Posted August 29, 2018 i never worked for less than 45000 i. Thailand.. none were international schools either... i guess you are getting offers based on their assessment of your value to the school.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scorecard Posted August 29, 2018 Share Posted August 29, 2018 2 hours ago, Elfin said: Does your Thai friend have a Masters degree from overseas or a PHD? I'm guessing that it's a bachelor level program (correct me if that's wrong), plus if following the regulations lecturer would have at least a masters degree. 1,200Baht an hour is fairly low. I'm aware of several unis who pay 1,700 - 1,800Baht per hour. Obviously more for masters degree courses. In Vietnam add 20 - 30% more for both bachelor and masters level programs, for most unis. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ryxyz Posted August 29, 2018 Share Posted August 29, 2018 On 8/26/2018 at 5:44 PM, WonnabeBiker said: I'm one of those bottom feeder, although outside Bangkok. The day job brings < 35 k and in a good month, I might make 50% of Scott's 90 k. Working 7 days a week. A Thai friend is teaching nursing at a university @ 1,200 THB an hour. A superb young teacher, Chula-trained, was making barely 10 k although her TOEIC score would be hundreds of points higher than that man's from Ghana who also got free housing. Apparently, national origin trumps ability. The bestt Thai teachers deserve the right to compete against all foreigners! So let's compare our TOEIC scores! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DJ54 Posted August 29, 2018 Share Posted August 29, 2018 Interesting post although not in this Field. If the teacher is good and supplying knowledge to children to prepare for the future they deserve to be paid more. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stese Posted August 30, 2018 Share Posted August 30, 2018 i'm paid 30k baht a month teaching 17 hours a week at a government school in Phuket. My first year. Definitely a lot of work for not a lot of cash. If i didn't have a second revenue stream from back home i wouldn't be able to do this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andrew108 Posted August 30, 2018 Author Share Posted August 30, 2018 1 hour ago, Stese said: i'm paid 30k baht a month teaching 17 hours a week at a government school in Phuket. My first year. Definitely a lot of work for not a lot of cash. If i didn't have a second revenue stream from back home i wouldn't be able to do this. I guess you mean you have 17 contact hours a week? 30K doesn’t go very far in Phuket. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andrew108 Posted August 30, 2018 Author Share Posted August 30, 2018 I’m beginning to understand why China is so attractive to ESL teachers. Salary levels are pretty depressing and of course there is still a lot of bureaucracy to deal with such as degree accreditation and teaching licenses. If you are going to jump through bureaucratic hoops then at least it should be financially worthwhile. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brewsterbudgen Posted August 30, 2018 Share Posted August 30, 2018 I work for a language school in central Bangkok. The basic salary is 67,000 a month for around 25 hours a week, with overtime paid at 700 an hour. Most months I make around 80,000 plus extra from privates and examining. Not sure I could survive on less!Sent from my SM-G930F using Thailand Forum - Thaivisa mobile app Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
marty147 Posted August 30, 2018 Share Posted August 30, 2018 Two government high schools in my Isaan town are desperate for teachers. However, their salary cap is 35,000 so they end up with Africans and Filipinos who will accept a much lower salary than this. The very few western teachers that they have managed to recruit are less than 'desirable'. ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Slip Posted August 30, 2018 Share Posted August 30, 2018 I started on 26k (+ 3k food and free accommodation) for contact hours only (about 20/80) at the turn of the century. Thanks to a generous raise system that rose to just over 70k all in, but now we work 40/160 hours with the office hours requirement. That suggests that the average wage increment for a career teacher in my school has been 20% over those 15 or so years. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
balo Posted August 30, 2018 Share Posted August 30, 2018 My Filipino friends work as teachers and they earn 20 to 25k , most of them . Very unfair, they do a better job than many farang teachers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lust Posted August 30, 2018 Share Posted August 30, 2018 1 minute ago, balo said: My Filipino friends work as teachers and they earn 20 to 25k , most of them . Very unfair, they do a better job than many farang teachers. Do a better job in what way? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
simoh1490 Posted August 30, 2018 Share Posted August 30, 2018 They're usually more dedicated and harder working than their farang counterparts, they typically understand the material better also.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sanemax Posted August 30, 2018 Share Posted August 30, 2018 29 minutes ago, simoh1490 said: They're usually more dedicated and harder working than their farang counterparts, they typically understand the material better also.. 20-25 000 Baht is a good salary for them , its a pittance for Westerners . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
balo Posted August 30, 2018 Share Posted August 30, 2018 32 minutes ago, sanemax said: 20-25 000 Baht is a good salary for them Well , compared with where they came from it is. But they are not spending much of it here , always family comes first and sending most of the money back to the Philippines. They live in 2000 baht rooms and often in shared rooms so no luxury . IMO they should be paid more , when westerners at the same school earns 50k for doing less. As a non native speaker , I struggle more to understand Northern dialects (Manchester etc ) than Filipinos who speak in clear English. Just an observation , don't take it personal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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