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We received a notice that my wife's ITIN will expire at the end of the year, and must be renewed. 

 

To renew it, I need to submit the form and provide a certified copy of her Thai passport. The certification needs to be done by the original issuing agency, which I assume is the Ministry of Foreign Affairs.

 

Does anyone know if they will provide certified copies?

 

If so, is the service available at all the passport offices?

 

We are in Bangkok

 

Thanks 

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It has been reported that it can be obtained - a search might turn up details.  I just sent original passport last year when we had to do it as we do not travel and just made the new passport for this issue - it was returned OK.

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It has been reported that it can be obtained - a search might turn up details.  I just sent original passport last year when we had to do it as we do not travel and just made the new passport for this issue - it was returned OK.


Returned to your Thailand address?

I was thinking about just sending the original.

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Yes returned to Thailand address by the ITIN folks.  Even if lost replacement passports here are probably less cost that a certification/trip to obtain.  They advise they will return PP to foreign address so believe it is normal.

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What you need is the US embassy stamp. 

 

Before Mrs G came to the US and got an SSN that’s what we did, they stamp the copy, ‘For ITIN purposes only'

 

So it’ll cost you the usual $50 and a trip to BKK for 10 mins inside the embassy, plus the wait outside on the sidewalk in the blistering heat!

I recommend you leave the missus to do the waiting, you head over the road and ‘sweat it out’ in Starbucks until she emerges!

ITIN Certified Passport.jpg

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Thanks, i was hoping to save the morning, and the $50...

It the Thai Department of State will give her a copy, don’t even have to go...

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1 hour ago, mogandave said:

Thanks, i was hoping to save the morning, and the $50...

It the Thai Department of State will give her a copy, don’t even have to go...
 

Now I’m gonna profess that I’m an oracle on these matters, but my ex who is CPA told me that to get the ITIN it needs to be a US certified document.

 

Pay the 50 bucks and it’s a slam dunk

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I’m pretty sure it is either the issuing agency, or the embassy. Last time I was at the consulate for notary it was 2 hours waiting after my appointment time...

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Actually my experience at the embassy has never been that bad.
Just don't turn up too early.

They are pretty Nazi like in only allowing you to enter at the prescribed time.

First time I I had to go there I thought, early is better. Bad bad bad idea. Get there as the instructions say 15 mins before the appointment and a lot less painful

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I was there two weeks ago getting my passport copy notarized. Had I known I needed to renew the ITIN I could have got it at the same time.

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Yeah that sucks, nobody wants to spend more time there than you need to

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9 hours ago, GinBoy2 said:

Now I’m gonna profess that I’m an oracle on these matters, but my ex who is CPA told me that to get the ITIN it needs to be a US certified document.

 

Pay the 50 bucks and it’s a slam dunk

Passport of any country is a stand alone document for ITIN - obtained without any US certified document last year.

If you submit an original valid passport or a certified copy from the issuing agency, you don’t need to submit any other documents from the table, unless the passport is for a dependent and doesn’t include a date of entry.

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9 hours ago, mogandave said:

I’m pretty sure it is either the issuing agency, or the embassy. Last time I was at the consulate for notary it was 2 hours waiting after my appointment time...

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Believe you want to file her as - not as dependent - if I understand your OP correctly.

e. Spouse of U.S. citizen/resident alien.

 

  • A resident or nonresident alien spouse who isn’t eligible to get an SSN but who’s electing to file a U.S. federal tax return jointly with a spouse who is a U.S. citizen or resident alien. For more information about this category, see Pubs. 501 and 519.

 

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Believe you want to file her as - not as dependent - if I understand your OP correctly.

e. Spouse of U.S. citizen/resident alien.

 

  • A resident or nonresident alien spouse who isn’t eligible to get an SSN but who’s electing to file a U.S. federal tax return jointly with a spouse who is a U.S. citizen or resident alien. For more information about this category, see Pubs. 501 and 519.
 


Yes, we file joint....

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