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CM Immigration Q&A (2018)

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7 hours ago, WaveHunter said:

Under the new rules (effective March, 2019) it has now changed to  2 months in the bank on the date you apply for consecutive extensions, according to UbonJoe in another thread on this. (See link below).  He usually knows what he’s talking about. 

I read it 2 months before for the 1st time retirement extension and 3 months before for subsequent extensions. Well, maybe UbonJoe is right, but for myself and others I know it's just easier to keep 800,000 in a fixed account permanently. It would be a real pain to keep shifting money around just to scarf a little extra interest. The new rule seems a bit hostile to me, but perhaps just because it's a new adjustment. We'll have to get used to it. I'm not going back to the USA. https://www.thethailandlife.com/the-thailand-retirement-visa-guide

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I have seen several mentions in this thread about Chiang Mai Immigration being open on Saturday to process TM30 updates. Since this TM30 update requirement was started I have avoided coming home for weekends when working in nearby Asian countries as I would not be able to get the TM30 update on a Saturday or Sunday. I obviously want to avoid possible future problems with immigration and the TM30. My wife and I tried calling Chiang Mai Immigration and asking if they were always open on Saturday for TM30 updates but we got different answers. Has anyone seen a sign or online posting that is more definitive? Even though the TM30 update for just a two day stay is onerous there are times that it would be quite convenient to be home for a weekend.

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5 hours ago, grin said:

My wife and I tried calling Chiang Mai Immigration and asking if they were always open on Saturday for TM30 updates but we got different answers. Has anyone seen a sign or online posting that is more definitive? Even though the TM30 update for just a two day stay is onerous there are times that it would be quite convenient to be home for a weekend.

I'd go there in person and ask, or maybe even go over on a Saturday and check, because you can't rely on anybody's word here. Yes, the rule is 24 hours, but from what I've understood no one has ever been punished for being a day or two late. In the very small chance you are, will 1600 baht break your back?  If you're that worried, be a hero, go this Saturday and check them out, then report back to the rest of us. 

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19 hours ago, Mark1066 said:

Sorry if this is not the right place to ask but does anybody know what the latest requirements are for photos when applying for an extension based on retirement in Chiang Mai (as in how many and what size, colour background etc.)? I've looked at older posts but I'd like to know what they are asking for now if possible.

Can't remember the exact size, but just down the street from the US Consulate (towards the moat corner) on the left there is a small shop that does passport work and takes photos. I often go there and tell them what I need near extension time, I think 100 baht for a quick couple of photos. They for sure will get it right, then you can measure them to see. You can spend a few hours enjoying the local markets, too. In the past, they're also ready to take your photo right there at the Immigration offices. Maybe a short line, but can't get any easier than that. 

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14 minutes ago, cusanus said:

I'd go there in person and ask, or maybe even go over on a Saturday and check, because you can't rely on anybody's word here. Yes, the rule is 24 hours, but from what I've understood no one has ever been punished for being a day or two late. In the very small chance you are, will 1600 baht break your back?  If you're that worried, be a hero, go this Saturday and check them out, then report back to the rest of us. 

I'm in Las Vegas now enjoying relatively clean air. The problem here is dust when it's really windy like now.

 

To be more explicit on the problem: When I come in for just a weekend I cannot get the TM30 updated. Then I may not be back for weeks or even months. So when I try to update the TM30 weeks or months later they would probably fine me.  When I am working in Asia I almost always arrive on a Friday evening whether I'm just staying for two days or a week. When I've stayed home longer than a weekend they have never enforced the 24 hour rule and they seem to be consistently allowing 7 days. The fine is not a back breaker especially if there is some kind of emergency at home. It's just a pain to even have to go in every time I come home even if they were open on a Saturday. If I were only coming and going a few times a year it would not be so onerous.

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I have seen several mentions in this thread about Chiang Mai Immigration being open on Saturday to process TM30 updates. Since this TM30 update requirement was started I have avoided coming home for weekends when working in nearby Asian countries as I would not be able to get the TM30 update on a Saturday or Sunday. I obviously want to avoid possible future problems with immigration and the TM30. My wife and I tried calling Chiang Mai Immigration and asking if they were always open on Saturday for TM30 updates but we got different answers. Has anyone seen a sign or online posting that is more definitive? Even though the TM30 update for just a two day stay is onerous there are times that it would be quite convenient to be home for a weekend.

Most people report no problem going in 2-3-5 days late. A few have been asked to do it within 24hrs. Can not recall anybody being fined for a few days late.

Mostly too much worry about nothing.

Imm will not “always” anything.


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If you arrive at CNX during Immigration office hours just have the taxi park up at the petrol station opposite then nip across and update the TM30. You're legal before you even get home and taxi driver picks up a 100baht tip.

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3 minutes ago, grin said:

You have a point there about worrying about nothing. Now that I think about it I should just forget about updating my TM30 every time I come home even if I stay longer than a weekend. Then I will only have to pay the fine once a year when I go in to do my extension of stay. I don't know why I didn't think of this before. What a load off. This will save me about 20 trips to immigration every year.

 

Just go to immigration after you come back

When you do your Visa Extension

Sometimes it can take only a few minutes

Other times it can take a while

it depends on how many New TM 30 have to be done

Just make sure you know when the Govt Holidays are

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3 minutes ago, grin said:

You have a point there about worrying about nothing. Now that I think about it I should just forget about updating my TM30 every time I come home even if I stay longer than a weekend. Then I will only have to pay the fine once a year when I go in to do my extension of stay. I don't know why I didn't think of this before. What a load off. This will save me about 20 trips to immigration every year

Just make a TM30 report ASAP after your last return to Thailand before your extension is due.  They will not be interested in previous trips/TM30 reports only that your present status is up to date.

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11 minutes ago, scottiejohn said:

Just make a TM30 report ASAP after your last return to Thailand before your extension is due.  They will not be interested in previous trips/TM30 reports only that your present status is up to date.

 

Very good to know. I had just assumed that they will fine me when I try update my TM30 after not doing it on previous trips.

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Very good to know. I had just assumed that they will fine me when I try update my TM30 after not doing it on previous trips.

I have skipped a report several times, once last month, no problem or comment.


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2 hours ago, Bill97 said:


Most people report no problem going in 2-3-5 days late. A few have been asked to do it within 24hrs. Can not recall anybody being fined for a few days late.

Mostly too much worry about nothing.

Imm will not “always” anything.


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It seems that is the only thing that CM IMM does NOT hassle you about.  I was a week late because I returned from the States on a Saturday and then had to fly down to Bangkok on Monday morning, travelled all around in the South for a week and returned to CM the following Monday, went into IMM the following day, armed with hotel receipts, plane receipts, etc, to defend my actions and expecting a battle with IMM officers.  They didn't even want to see anything but my passport and entry card, stamped my passport and I was outta there in about 15 minutes 🙂

 

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22 hours ago, grin said:

You have a point there about worrying about nothing. Now that I think about it I should just forget about updating my TM30 every time I come home even if I stay longer than a weekend. Then I will only have to pay the fine once a year when I go in to do my extension of stay. I don't know why I didn't think of this before. What a load off. This will save me about 20 trips to immigration every year.

 

Ding ding!  This is the winner.  Owner reports online every time we arrive back in the country, we only physically go to immigration to do TM30 with a screenshot of the latest report on the phone (we don't bother printing it, they don't seem to care) the one time before we do our extensions.  There is an old TM30 receipt stapled to the last page of our passports, it's never looked at in detail but they make sure one is there.  It's just ripped out, binned, and the new one stapled in.

 

We leave the country between 8 and 10 times each year and one of us rides over to immigration once a year with both passports.

 

Your mileage may vary.

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12 minutes ago, Konini said:

Ding ding!  This is the winner.  Owner reports online every time we arrive back in the country, we only physically go to immigration to do TM30 with a screenshot of the latest report on the phone (we don't bother printing it, they don't seem to care) the one time before we do our extensions. 

Assuming the "owner" makes the report. In 28 man/woman years here, the "owner" makes no such report, but you're responsible, anyway. 

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