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1 hour ago, delboy said:

 

Such a big improvement on the chaos of last year.  If only they could only improve the waiting time to get the passport back, but it's better than some other offices where you have to return the following day.

 

I don't remember any chaos of last year.

 

The only thing I do remember of past yearS were waking up at 5 am in the morning and queuing up at Promenada only to get back my passport at noon time or later.

 

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1 hour ago, delboy said:

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Presented my papers.  Officer asked for copies of the TM30 and 90 day receipts (never been asked for copies of those before, but had them in case they were needed).

Two copies?  Sounds like they may be starting to be a bit difficult again, asking for things people probably won't have.  I hope not, things have been so much better since Big Joke shook things up.

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16 minutes ago, Konini said:

Two copies?  Sounds like they may be starting to be a bit difficult again, asking for things people probably won't have.  I hope not, things have been so much better since Big Joke shook things up.

Don't believe he meant two copies. Helped a friend with her extension in June. One copy. Just like mine in January, but I do make a complete set of the passport that includes TM30 and last 90 day as they are required two be stapled in. 

 

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19 hours ago, delboy said:

Applied for a retirement extension today.

Arrived at office at 9:00.  Received queue number R13, R11 was being processed

15 minute wait before seeing immigration officer at counter 8.

Presented my papers.  Officer asked for copies of the TM30 and 90 day receipts (never been asked for copies of those before, but had them in case they were needed).

Signed a few papers, had my photo taken, told to wait for return of passport at 9:25.

Received passport with new extension 10:15.

 

Such a big improvement on the chaos of last year.  If only they could only improve the waiting time to get the passport back, but it's better than some other offices where you have to return the following day.

The improvement in waiting time is due to the mass exodus of western expats fed up with immigrations latest restrictions to live here.

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5 minutes ago, CMNightRider said:

The improvement in waiting time is due to the mass exodus of western expats fed up with immigrations latest restrictions

Not a serious problem for many of us, but I doubt I could have come to Thailand 14 years ago if they were that picky. My guess is that it will hurt Thailand more than it will help, but might help us long timers more than it hurts. There are a few other things about Thailand that may end up forcing me to leave, but hopefully not because I've been really happy here. 

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some say they are not helpful/my last 90day i posted 

i was 1 copy short /they rang wife and asked her to email a copy 

very polite request 

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On 9/13/2019 at 1:10 PM, Tracyb said:

I went to CM IMM yesterday, Thursday, for my retirement extension.  I had tried to get a queue number the day before, Wednesday around 10:00, but I was politely denied as they were overflowing with people and were accepting no more.  I was advised to return the next day before 7:00  

 

Here are the details of my experience which I'm offering in hopes that it may assist others who follow.

 

I arrived at 6:20 with plenty of parking available, found about 25 people already there inside, and was ushered to a seat that represented my place in the queue by a woman in street clothes who took charge of keeping order.  She was strict but friendly, kept an eagle eye on the door, and assured that every arrival took their appropriate place in the queue.  IO's showed up and started checking documents and handing out queue numbers around 7:00. We were herded into the line-up for queue numbers by our "minder."  Several people entered the building while the line-up was taking place and tried to cut in line.  They were spied by "minder," appropriately chastised, and shown to their appropriate place at the end of the line; much to the appreciation of all of us who had arrived earlier!

 

I drew Queue #R6 for the retirement extension.  The IO at counter #6 arrived around 7:40 and began calling queue numbers around 8:00.  My number was called at 9:10.  I used the "800K in the bank" method this year.     I deposited the funds into my own account, not a joint account, 3 months ahead of time.  (Although I understand they accept two months ahead as being ok, I'm not one to take any chances!)  I had used the income method with embassy letter for the past five years.

Here's what I submitted:

-Application form TM7.

-A 4cmx6cm passport photo with a white background.

-A copy of every page in my passport that had information or a stamp on it, as requested.

-The "Bank Letter" I obtained from Bangkok Bank the day before. (it's valid for 7 days according to CM IMM)

-A Bank statement showing all activity in the account for the past 6 months.

-A copy of every page of my passbook which I updated on my way to CM IMM early, very early, in the morning.

-A copy of my lease.

-A copy of my last 90 day report

-A copy of my TM30.

I signed each and every page using a blue ink pen.

I was forty-three days ahead of the expiration of my previous retirement extension.

 

The IO checked every page, stamped the extension into my passport, took my picture and then my 1900 Baht, and asked me to be seated while waiting for the return of my passport.  I asked how long it might take to get it returned and he answered, "30 Minutes or sooner!"  I had it back in my hand with the cash receipt by 9:30.

 

I went across the street to get a copy of the new permission to stay stamp and returned for my re-entry permit.

 

I presented my documents to the queue assigner who checked them over and handed me queue number RE17 for the re-entry permit  I was the next in line as RE16 had just been called.  Two minutes later I handed over my passport and documents for the multiple re-entry permit, paid my 3800 Baht, took a seat and waited for five minutes to get my passport and cash receipt back in my hand.

 

Done and dusted by 9:50.  A far cry from the absurdly painful experience at Promenada last year. 

 

Yes, thanks for this, Tracyb. Your report made me copy more passport pages than previously too, all of which were accepted (none returned as sometimes happens) yesterday.

 

After seeing that you took a copy of your lease, I also took a letter from my wife/landlady (and tabian ban copy) just in case (literally) but these were not asked for by the IO. 

 

I arrived about 07.45 and completed the retirement extension and re-entry processes before 09.30. Excellent progress. 

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My 45 days before extension date rolls around this weekend. My money has been seasoning for more than two months. A couple questions as I have not done it this way before. Besides my other documents, I go to my bank and get;

 

1) Bank letter, (valid for 7 days)

2) A bank statements showing all activity in the account. In my case for three months  since I opened the account. ---------------------- I get these two from the Bank, the day before then 

I also need:

 

3) “A copy of every page of my passbook which I updated on my way to CM IMM early, very early, in the morning.” ---- copy from tracyb-----

 

That last one, I am not for sure exactly how I go about getting it. I have been told I need that done on the same day I submit my application/renewal docs.  Now just to be clear -  that is where you make a deposit or withdrawal on your account, showing activity (?) And then make copies of every page of the bank book. This is done on the same day I make my application??

 

If that is so, I have to wait until the bank opens, and then make copies at a copy shop when it opens. This will put me at Immigration at about 930-10 o’clock in the morning. At the earliest.  

My questions – Are all of the above steps correct for the 800K method? And regarding step 3. Is there any way to do that so I can get to immigration earlier than say 930??  I also realize I need to bring my updated bank book with me besides the copies to the IO.

 

Any help, advice, directions, appreciated.

 

Thank You.

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22 minutes ago, Dcheech said:

 .....3) “A copy of every page of my passbook which I updated on my way to CM IMM early, very early, in the morning.” ---- copy from tracyb-----

 

That last one, I am not for sure exactly how I go about getting it. I have been told I need that done on the same day I submit my application/renewal docs.  Now just to be clear -  that is where you make a deposit or withdrawal on your account, showing activity (?) And then make copies of every page of the bank book. This is done on the same day I make my application??

 

If that is so, I have to wait until the bank opens, and then make copies at a copy shop when it opens. This will put me at Immigration at about 930-10 o’clock in the morning. At the earliest.  

My questions – Are all of the above steps correct for the 800K method? And regarding step 3. Is there any way to do that so I can get to immigration earlier than say 930??  I also realize I need to bring my updated bank book with me besides the copies to the IO.

 

Any help, advice, directions, appreciated.

 

Thank You.

I keep the 800k in a dedicated account (term account...usually for 10-13 months per term) at Siam Commercial Bank and that passbook cannot be updated regardless of whether I or a bank teller sticks the passbook in the machine.  When I obtained the new-one year extension a few months back, I simply presented the bank letter and a copy of the passbook (which showed that the current term began in December of 2018) and there was no question or issue about any updating.

However, from what I gather from some posts, some people have claimed that they've been required to update the passbook the day of application and I believe that most or all of these involve people who have kept their 800k in a regular savings account that is able to be updated (and able to be altered by small deposit or withdrawal) on the day of application.  If posters have personal experience with this issue at CM Immigration (please don't post here about Nakorn Nowhere), please advise.

I'd also note that based on recent experiences of friends, you really don't need to get to Immigration early any more.  Some....even for annual extensions....have gone in the early afternoon and been out of there in less than an hour.  I arrived for my annual extension at 11:05 and was finished (including a new re-entry permit) at 12:25PM....not too shabby.  

Based on some reports, you might want to avoid going out there on the day before or after a Thai holiday (one where Immigration is closed) as the office could be very busy. 

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10 hours ago, CMBob said:

I keep the 800k in a dedicated account (term account...usually for 10-13 months per term) at Siam Commercial Bank and that passbook cannot be updated regardless of whether I or a bank teller sticks the passbook in the machine.  When I obtained the new-one year extension a few months back, I simply presented the bank letter and a copy of the passbook (which showed that the current term began in December of 2018) and there was no question or issue about any updating.

However, from what I gather from some posts, some people have claimed that they've been required to update the passbook the day of application and I believe that most or all of these involve people who have kept their 800k in a regular savings account that is able to be updated (and able to be altered by small deposit or withdrawal) on the day of application.  If posters have personal experience with this issue at CM Immigration (please don't post here about Nakorn Nowhere), please advise.

I'd also note that based on recent experiences of friends, you really don't need to get to Immigration early any more.  Some....even for annual extensions....have gone in the early afternoon and been out of there in less than an hour.  I arrived for my annual extension at 11:05 and was finished (including a new re-entry permit) at 12:25PM....not too shabby.  

Based on some reports, you might want to avoid going out there on the day before or after a Thai holiday (one where Immigration is closed) as the office could be very busy. 

When I renewed my extension of stay based on retirement in May earlier this year, I was told by the IO processing my extension that an update to my fixed deposit account passbook was not required- just the bank letter- as his rationale was that so long as the term of the deposit account had not expired, the account holder wouldn't be withdrawing any funds prior to application for the extension; the bank letter attesting to the minimum (or more) amount of 800K was sufficient.

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When I got my retirement extension at CM last month, I got my bank letter on my way to the Immigration Office, the lovely lady even provided me with a photocopy of the updated page in my bank book, although there is a photocopy shop opposite Immigration, if needed.  I did not get a bank statement, and the officer didn't ask for one.

 

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For 12 yrs have always got the bank letter and photocopies of relevant pages from the passbook the day before. Never been queried.

 

It's a fixed 800,000 b account which I just roll over every year taking out only interest earned

 

Imm officers don't seem to understand, with fixed term deposits, you can actually withdraw the money at any time you just lose all interest gained if it hasn't reached its expiry term date.

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3 hours ago, delboy said:

When I got my retirement extension at CM last month, I got my bank letter on my way to the Immigration Office, the lovely lady even provided me with a photocopy of the updated page in my bank book, although there is a photocopy shop opposite Immigration, if needed.  I did not get a bank statement, and the officer didn't ask for one.

 

What does this "bank letter" show/state, and how is it different to a "bank statement".

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At Bangkok Bank such a letter costs 50 baht.  Statement are probably free.

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Need some help please.  I went to the visa agent to get an extension of my retirement visa.  I brought a printout of my Bangkok bank account showing all my international transfers.  The agent said the printout was not enough and I needed a bank letter and a Social Security letter.  I went to my Bangkok Bank in Maejo and they told me they do not give bank letters as requested by immigration they do not have the program.  Question to members, what Bangkok Branch did you use to get that letter?

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