chingmai331 Posted September 11, 2018 Share Posted September 11, 2018 Had not seen this before but on my corner, near Nakornping Condo and Chiang Mai Lodge, noticed on a 10 m pole obvious cameras facing both up and down the street. No traffic signals here so what is the govt looking for? Have you seen any in your area? Does anyone know the ultimate function of these cameras? I'm familiar with such cameras in china where social control is central to the govt policy and now of course those cameras can be used by AI for instant identification of individuals. I can fully agree with cameras at traffic signal corners nabbing the bad drivers but am dismayed to find them near my house on a normal and quiet soi. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eyecatcher Posted September 11, 2018 Share Posted September 11, 2018 It was on the radio news recently that CM was the guinea pig for all Thailand. They have installed somewhere in the region of 200 cameras all going back to a central comm centre. I think its about monitoring traffic accidents and being able to respond to accidents etc. If the trial is succesful, it rolls out elsewhere. Makes you wonder what resposible persons are in charge of watching 200monitors Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
samsensam Posted September 11, 2018 Share Posted September 11, 2018 i wouldn't worry too much. a friend recently had her bag stolen in bangkok. she noticed there were cameras covering the area so went to the police and requested they look at the cctv. the cameras are not connected/live was the reply. speaking to other friends apparently this is quite common. and even if they are all live when installed thailand doesn't have the best record for a) installing good quality infrastructure and b) servicing/repairing/maintaining infrastructure. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dante99 Posted September 11, 2018 Share Posted September 11, 2018 So Big Brother is watching you, what's is your problem about having cameras on your small soi? They are watching you when you go into the bank, when you go into the airport, when you go into a 711, many shops, all of England, 65% of the USA, .... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cmsally Posted September 12, 2018 Share Posted September 12, 2018 They have them on our soi too. The initial outlay obviously comes with a big budget as many people involved in the installing , adjusting, overseeing. They might catch a dog illegally pooping if they are lucky, as nothing ever happens on our soi. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChiangMaiLightning2143 Posted September 12, 2018 Share Posted September 12, 2018 Good. Don't commit a crime or engage in anti-social behaviours. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wwest5829 Posted September 12, 2018 Share Posted September 12, 2018 4 hours ago, ChiangMaiLightning2143 said: Good. Don't commit a crime or engage in anti-social behaviours. Hmmm, tell it to Winston Smith...... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Formaleins Posted September 12, 2018 Share Posted September 12, 2018 They are being used in a big way on the highways here too. They are issuing speeding fines in the post to the vehicles registered owner. My son in law has had 3 from the outer ring road recently Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LivinLOS Posted September 12, 2018 Share Posted September 12, 2018 7 hours ago, cmsally said: They have them on our soi too. The initial outlay obviously comes with a big budget as many people involved in the installing , adjusting, overseeing. This is why its popular.. The initial install contract is juicy.. Theres never any budget for maintenance and often little to no thought as to budget for and provision to monitor it real time. Theres obviously no centralized system of controls and its all ad hoc design. On Phuket the contract to install terrible quality low def cant see at night cameras was multi millions of baht.. I have a feeling it worked out to about 600k per camera.. After they were installed a year later only 30% still worked.. Usual money hand out to connected contractors and little to no use. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lacessit Posted September 12, 2018 Share Posted September 12, 2018 My GF copped a 400 baht fine for riding without a helmet. Caught dead to rights on camera. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NCC1701A Posted September 12, 2018 Share Posted September 12, 2018 sometimes the police can track a person who committed a crime all the way back to their destination with the cameras. beats having to go outside in the heat and or run and jump over a fence in a too tight Thai police uniform. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChiangMaiLightning2143 Posted September 12, 2018 Share Posted September 12, 2018 Hmmm, tell it to Winston Smith......Who is Winston Smith? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Antonymous Posted September 12, 2018 Share Posted September 12, 2018 The trend towards total surveillance is unstoppable the world over. Very sad for those of us old enough to have enjoyed the relative freedom of another era in our salad days, but totally normal to millennials, who can't understand why we still hang on to our quaint notions of privacy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChakaKhan Posted September 12, 2018 Share Posted September 12, 2018 6 hours ago, NCC1701A said: sometimes the police can track a person who committed a crime all the way back to their destination with the cameras. beats having to go outside in the heat and or run and jump over a fence in a too tight Thai police uniform. They indeed are snug! Id be pulling at my crotch all day--chafing in this heat--pinching my peach basket! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
naboo Posted September 12, 2018 Share Posted September 12, 2018 Don't worry, the contract to install would have included so many backhanders, there would've no money left for quality. Broken, if not, easily broken with no maintenance budget. Thailand doesn't have the motivation to become China. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aussieroaming Posted September 12, 2018 Share Posted September 12, 2018 On 9/11/2018 at 11:51 PM, eyecatcher said: It was on the radio news recently that CM was the guinea pig for all Thailand. They have installed somewhere in the region of 200 cameras all going back to a central comm centre. I think its about monitoring traffic accidents and being able to respond to accidents etc. If the trial is succesful, it rolls out elsewhere. Makes you wonder what resposible persons are in charge of watching 200monitors Damn, they will get tired when they have to say camera not working 200 times. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChiangMaiLightning2143 Posted September 12, 2018 Share Posted September 12, 2018 The trend towards total surveillance is unstoppable the world over. Very sad for those of us old enough to have enjoyed the relative freedom of another era in our salad days, but totally normal to millennials, who can't understand why we still hang on to our quaint notions of privacy.“Relative freedom of another era” means what? Freedom to commit crimes? Freedom to endure broken windows and bottles, men pissing on your car, or stealing it? The open air drug-marts? Muggings?I assume you do no such thing so having a camera everywhere gives you “more freedom” knowing miscreants cannot victimize and cause property damage without scrutiny. And, as long as one do no wrong the cctv footage proves one innocent. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
canthai55 Posted September 12, 2018 Share Posted September 12, 2018 19 hours ago, ChiangMaiLightning2143 said: engage in anti-social behaviours. 555 So ... No political, social, societal changes because it is anti-social !!! Lets all go back to the Dark Ages, where people where owned by others, no human rights, no justice except one mans opinion - no matter if he was complete sociopath or insane ? Sounds like progress to me ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
terminatorchiangmai Posted September 13, 2018 Share Posted September 13, 2018 The do work and are monitored. Last month a tuk tuk got caught by police after driving of after an small accident. They followed him in to our village after getting the location trough the cameras. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sandyf Posted September 14, 2018 Share Posted September 14, 2018 On 9/11/2018 at 11:51 PM, eyecatcher said: It was on the radio news recently that CM was the guinea pig for all Thailand. They have installed somewhere in the region of 200 cameras all going back to a central comm centre. I think its about monitoring traffic accidents and being able to respond to accidents etc. If the trial is succesful, it rolls out elsewhere. Makes you wonder what resposible persons are in charge of watching 200monitors Been on the end of our road for a couple of years, pointing in each direction. We live out in the country near Chonburi. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rimbuman Posted September 14, 2018 Share Posted September 14, 2018 On 9/13/2018 at 8:32 AM, terminatorchiangmai said: The do work and are monitored. Last month a tuk tuk got caught by police after driving of after an small accident. They followed him in to our village after getting the location trough the cameras. Sure they do work but as mentioned before, 'for how long will they work?' Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
elgenon Posted September 15, 2018 Share Posted September 15, 2018 Farangs walking naked in the streets. Is becoming a big problem apparently. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BritManToo Posted September 15, 2018 Share Posted September 15, 2018 On 9/12/2018 at 6:23 PM, Antonymous said: The trend towards total surveillance is unstoppable the world over. Very sad for those of us old enough to have enjoyed the relative freedom of another era in our salad days, I'm not a criminal, and so am totally happy with 100% CCTV coverage. The moment personal video recorders are available (to record yourself 24/7) I'm getting one. No false accusations of rape or sexual assault for me. Why are you frightened of being recorded? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Antonymous Posted September 15, 2018 Share Posted September 15, 2018 8 hours ago, BritManToo said: I'm not a criminal, and so am totally happy with 100% CCTV coverage. The moment personal video recorders are available (to record yourself 24/7) I'm getting one. No false accusations of rape or sexual assault for me. Why are you frightened of being recorded? I guess you are from the UK. A state with more CCTV cameras per person than any other country. A place where the state is allowed to collate and read your email (and those from anyone who writes to you) and social media stuff. Has that stopped crime in the UK? Of course it hasn’t. A wise man once told me: "Never trust a bureaucrat. Never trust the system to do what is right". And I have heeded that advice. It is a particularly pertinent warning to anyone living in a dictatorship or police state or one that is riddled with corruption. I’m sure you know a few of those. Privacy is the single most effective means of preserving freedom against an encroaching state. You seem to think that a desire for privacy means that you must have something to hide, that you are a criminal. Whatever came of the notion that we are innocent until proven guilty? Why must I prove my innocence by opening up everything in my life to the state (or to its informants like Google and Facebook)? CCTV surveillance is not the only invasion of my right to privacy of course, but I’d need to write an essay to describe how surveillance fits right into the creeping total control of an individual’s identity that is taking place now the world over and how it leads to censorship and state control. I was brought up in an era where privacy was considered a fundamental right in any free society. I believe that my identity – and that includes any of my personal information that I want to keep to myself – belongs to me and not to the state. You appear to hold the opposite view and if you enjoy reading '1984' and feel that you’d fit right in there, then you will not understand where I’m coming from. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Antonymous Posted September 15, 2018 Share Posted September 15, 2018 On 9/13/2018 at 3:54 AM, ChiangMaiLightning2143 said: “Relative freedom of another era” means what? Freedom to commit crimes? Freedom to endure broken windows and bottles, men pissing on your car, or stealing it? The open air drug-marts? Muggings? I assume you do no such thing so having a camera everywhere gives you “more freedom” knowing miscreants cannot victimize and cause property damage without scrutiny. And, as long as one do no wrong the cctv footage proves one innocent. Freedom is Slavery. Yes of course. Follow the Party to get the life that you need and deserve. The Party will protect you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The manic Posted September 15, 2018 Share Posted September 15, 2018 On 9/12/2018 at 4:26 AM, ChiangMaiLightning2143 said: Good. Don't commit a crime or engage in anti-social behaviours. Or read 1984! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChiangMaiLightning2143 Posted September 15, 2018 Share Posted September 15, 2018 Just talking about Security cameras. Not "1984". (A bit of science fiction written by a Socialist). It is 2018 already. The pappazarri aren't interested in distributing photographs of random westerners walking down a street, so not to worry about your portrait copyrights. The boys at the Chiang Mai police central monitoring office will get a good laugh , as I do, the bald and clueless farangs hand in hand with ladyboys and aged isaarn slappers, that no Thai man would have for free. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
canthai55 Posted September 16, 2018 Share Posted September 16, 2018 10 hours ago, Antonymous said: Privacy is the single most effective means of preserving freedom against an encroaching state. 100% Correct Tell 'Em Nuttin' Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
canthai55 Posted September 16, 2018 Share Posted September 16, 2018 4 hours ago, ChiangMaiLightning2143 said: (A bit of science fiction written by a Socialist) And look at what they call Democracy - which has not and will never be in practice on Earth. It gave us leaders like Donald Trump, Tony Blair, ... "Power tends to corrupt, and absolute power corrupts absolutely. Great men are almost always bad men..." John Emerich Edward Dalberg-Acton Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BritManToo Posted September 16, 2018 Share Posted September 16, 2018 12 hours ago, Antonymous said: CCTV surveillance is not the only invasion of my right to privacy I don't do anything that interesting, if anyone wants to watch me, I'm OK with them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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