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BANGKOK 21 February 2019 22:53
mojaco

Some Confusion on Need to Report Return to Immigration

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Today I reported my return from overseas to Chiang Rai Immigration and the officer filled out a new "Notification of Alien's address" and didn't charge me although I returned 3 days ago.

 

I specifically asked her about needing to report if staying in a hotel in Thailand.  She replied "yes, every time you return".  I asked her what if I stayed in a hotel WITHIN Chiang Rai Province, such as the Wiang Inn in Chiang Rai.  She replied, "Yes, even if staying in a hotel within Chiang Rai Province".  This conflicts with what my friend was told a few months ago in that if staying within the Chiang Rai Province in a hotel no address report is needed when returning to the registered home address in Chiang Rai Province.

 

Next month I will be staying in the Wiang Inn Hotel in town and will report my "return" to Immigration afterwards.  It will be interesting to see if a different officer says "No need".

Morris

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Just goes to prove mojaco that CNX Immigration have no idea, they make it up every day. I have been putting up with these hopeless directions for 13 years. That is why I sourced an reliable agent I dont need the trauma or the waste of many hours of waiting time; last TM 30 check in which is a minutes work took 3 hours of waiting. Last example I had of asking for assistance from these uneducated group was the current documents for a certificate of residence. They wanted the normal PLUS a police report. I told wife we go the next day dont mention the police report. As predicted they never asked for it. The certificate is no charge, the guy two in front of me got slugged 1500 baht for that certificate. My turn they wanted 500 baht. In a loud voice so everyone could here " you want money for something where there is no charge, show me where it is written the fee is 500 baht". It worked fee waived away. Just be patient and only get advice from people who know. I have learnt the less you tell them the easier the process.  Here in TV a guy call UbonJoe is very good on advice. Good luck.

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Er, hello 1337markus. The OP clearly stated that he reported to Chiang Rai immigration. For your edification Chiang Rai and Chiang Mai are actually not the same place, being separated by a couple of hundred kilometres.

 

Mojaco, as an alien moving around Thailand and staying in hotels, your location has to be reported to Immigration whenever you change. But it is the responsibility of the lodging establishment to report that you are staying with them. Unless the office in CR has decided to very strictly enforce the regulations as they are written you should not need to report when you return to your "domicile". However as there are often quixotic interpretations of the regulations here it might be wise to try to report your return to your domicile. Your experience could inform and enlighten us all.

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Went to Jomtien immigration in June to ask if I need to fill again T.M 30 when I return because I was going abroad.

Officer told me:"no if you keep the same address"

When I return to Thailand with my re-entry, I didn't go to Jomtien.

I have renewed my one year extension last week and everything was O.K.

No need to lose time for T.M 30 if you keep the same address.

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your location has to be reported to Immigration whenever you change , quote from brommers reply. I havent changed location in 13 years. The uneducated Immigration people still demand everytime I come into Chiang Mai from outside of Thailand a TM 30 report, wife has been fined once so far for being late on reporting. Until someone in Bangkok in RTP has a brain  and makes a guideline these variations continue.

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1 minute ago, franckpattaya said:

Went to Jomtien immigration in June to ask if I need to fill again T.M 30 when I return because I was going abroad.

Officer told me:"no if you keep the same address"

When I return to Thailand with my re-entry, I didn't go to Jomtien.

I have renewed my one year extension last week and everything was O.K.

No need to lose time for T.M 30 if you keep the same address.

That is IF you stay in Jomtien, in other places, one has to "lose time" if leaving the country.

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18 minutes ago, 1337markus said:

your location has to be reported to Immigration whenever you change , quote from brommers reply. I havent changed location in 13 years. The uneducated Immigration people still demand everytime I come into Chiang Mai from outside of Thailand a TM 30 report, wife has been fined once so far for being late on reporting. Until someone in Bangkok in RTP has a brain  and makes a guideline these variations continue.

By Location they mean where you spent the night, so you have obviously changed location having been overseas, as you have staying in a (local) hotel.

 

Technically, when you stay anywhere other than your registered address (yes even if you went to stay at the neighbours) the "Landlord" of where you're staying is supposed to file a TM30 when you stay there & the Landlord (could be you) for where you live should file one when you return - Think of it as Thailand wants to know where you're sleeping every night you're in the country.

 

In reality most offices deal with it as staying outside of the province for 24/48 hours but as usual this varies from Jomtien not caring how long to seemingly CR wanting you to do it for any location you stay in.

 

Practically I would recommend filing a TM30 when I got back from the last trip before having to go to Immigration for anything (e.g. 90 Day Report, Extension, Residents Certs etc...) as I travel at least every other week, there is no way I could be bothered to have a weekly/bi-weekly trip to file a TM30 when I got back.

 

 

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I've been here for 10 years and this is the first I have heard of it, 1 year re-entry for 10 consecutive years, and I've only ever done 90 day reports if I had not left and returned. Sounds like a load of nonsense to me...

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I have never reported it's rubbish. You report on arrival to the country. And l never will nobody has blinked a eye.

You go looking for trouble you will find it

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1 hour ago, jossthaifarang said:

I've been here for 10 years and this is the first I have heard of it, 1 year re-entry for 10 consecutive years, and I've only ever done 90 day reports if I had not left and returned. Sounds like a load of nonsense to me...

It's all bullshit ignore 

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2 hours ago, Media1 said:

It's all bullshit ignore 

It might be bullshit where you live but in Chiang Mai province Immigration require that the House Master who is my wife register my address after I leave the country and return, this is despite the fact that I have my own House Book.

Last year we went across into Burma at Masai for the day, the next time I lodged the 90 day report I was asked why the address hadn’t been registered.

They were able to see on the computer that I had  left and re entered the country because the entry cards are barcoded.

Fortunately our local Immigration office is user friendly and no fine was imposed on my wife.

Unfortunately and as you will read on this site each Province applies its own rules, some of which I agree are bullshit !!

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4 minutes ago, StevieAus said:

It might be bullshit where you live but in Chiang Mai province Immigration require that the House Master who is my wife register my address after I leave the country and return, this is despite the fact that I have my own House Book.

Last year we went across into Burma at Masai for the day, the next time I lodged the 90 day report I was asked why the address hadn’t been registered.

They were able to see on the computer that I had  left and re entered the country because the entry cards are barcoded.

Fortunately our local Immigration office is user friendly and no fine was imposed on my wife.

Unfortunately and as you will read on this site each Province applies its own rules, some of which I agree are bullshit !!

Unreformed cowboys a absolute circus and 4 years with Superman bared nothing.

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2 hours ago, Media1 said:

I have never reported it's rubbish. You report on arrival to the country. And l never will nobody has blinked a eye.

You go looking for trouble you will find it

Same here, Jomtien & Phitsanulok..

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For all those saying ignore it...you can ignore it if you choose, and your Immigration Office may not enforce the TM30, but telling others to ignore it is not really a good idea. Our office had never enforced it in the ten years we have been here but when a friend stayed with us for a while he was asked for proof of it when he went in to do his 90 day report.

    So I went in and asked and our office said that my wife and I don't have to worry about reporting if we just leave for a day or two (we have a yellow house registration book) but we do have to report when we leave the country or go somewhere else for an extended period of time.

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