ClareQuilty Posted September 15, 2018 Share Posted September 15, 2018 Several Thai friends have recommended that in the case of very old cheap, high mileage vehicles, that I have the shocks and CV joints "rebuilt", rather than installing new parts. Has anyone here tried this? I've been told it's much cheaper (for example ~700 baht to rebuild a front shock compared to 1,600 for new). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crossy Posted September 15, 2018 Share Posted September 15, 2018 Shocks I would certainly consider, clean, new seals and oil, job done. I did motorcycle forks and shocks a lot in my (much) younger days. CV joints are more risky since they are metal to metal wear, replacing the balls/cage would certainly give a new lease of life but unlikely to be of "new" standard. Interesting read here for those who don't know :- https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Constant-velocity_joint and a video:- Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
transam Posted September 16, 2018 Share Posted September 16, 2018 You can't rebuild shocks on modernish day cars... For the low cost quoted I would definitely buy new CV joints.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HauptmannUK Posted September 16, 2018 Share Posted September 16, 2018 Aftermarket CVs are relatively cheap. Not worth the bother of rebuilding on most cars. Many dampers are gas-filled and should not be opened. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toosetinmyways Posted September 16, 2018 Share Posted September 16, 2018 Saw a program on tv about manufacturing modern shocks. After the last seal assembly was screwed on, a crimping tool deformed the area, so removal would be impossible. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
transam Posted September 16, 2018 Share Posted September 16, 2018 Of course all types of shocks and the way they fit will relate to their cost. My Vigo rear stock oil filled shocks were replaced with gas shocks, they looked exactly the same. Cost with fitting was 880 bht each, but it was an easy 10 minute job per side.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ClareQuilty Posted September 16, 2018 Author Share Posted September 16, 2018 Thanks for the comments guys. It's an early 90s Champ, dunno what that means about the shocks, but from the way it rides they must be original. I've no quote on new or rebuilt CV joints, only on shocks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
transam Posted September 16, 2018 Share Posted September 16, 2018 1 minute ago, ClareQuilty said: Thanks for the comments guys. It's an early 90s Champ, dunno what that means about the shocks, but from the way it rides they must be original. I've no quote on new or rebuilt CV joints, only on shocks. Shock absorber's have a life span, they never stop working until the moment you park up.. I would guess most will be stuffed at 100kkm... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ClareQuilty Posted October 21, 2018 Author Share Posted October 21, 2018 Got one new CV joint and two new rear shocks - total 2500 baht. Drives fine now. Been driving the heck out of it for a couple weeks, but then just today after a big thunderstorm and cooler weather it wouldn't start. Turned over but wouldn't catch - maybe the LPG is reluctant when cool and wet out. Rather than kill the battery trying I decided to try again tomorrow. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JAS21 Posted October 22, 2018 Share Posted October 22, 2018 4 hours ago, ClareQuilty said: Got one new CV joint and two new rear shocks - total 2500 baht. Drives fine now. Been driving the heck out of it for a couple weeks, but then just today after a big thunderstorm and cooler weather it wouldn't start. Turned over but wouldn't catch - maybe the LPG is reluctant when cool and wet out. Rather than kill the battery trying I decided to try again tomorrow. Morning CQ ... you got a black cat by any chance ... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
anon2736434 Posted October 22, 2018 Share Posted October 22, 2018 On 9/15/2018 at 10:44 PM, ClareQuilty said: (for example ~700 baht to rebuild a front shock compared to 1,600 for new). I think you better find some new friends, just replaced my isuzu truck shocks 830B each rear 1070B each front. KYB brand. And no you can not rebuild auto shocks they are sealed units. Maybe they mean we will put another old worn out shock on your car and tell you we rebuilt it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
transam Posted October 22, 2018 Share Posted October 22, 2018 4 minutes ago, Notagain said: I think you better find some new friends, just replaced my isuzu truck shocks 830B each rear 1070B each front. KYB brand. And no you can not rebuild auto shocks they are sealed units. Maybe they mean we will put another old worn out shock on your car and tell you we rebuilt it. I believe if a car has McPherson struts some do have a rebuild kit... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
anon2736434 Posted October 22, 2018 Share Posted October 22, 2018 16 minutes ago, transam said: McPherson struts some do have a rebuild kit... Yes you can replace the cartridge and spring but then you are spending the same amount of money plus labor or more taking it apart instead of just buying a new assembly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
transam Posted October 22, 2018 Share Posted October 22, 2018 7 minutes ago, Notagain said: Yes you can replace the cartridge and spring but then you are spending the same amount of money plus labor or more taking it apart instead of just buying a new assembly. I recall doing the job for a pal many years back on a Datsun...????....A 6 pot 2ltr I fink.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
anon2736434 Posted October 22, 2018 Share Posted October 22, 2018 Auto parts today are like anything else they are too cheap to mess around with rebuilding and a new part has a warranty, my bad, not in thailand. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
transam Posted October 22, 2018 Share Posted October 22, 2018 6 minutes ago, Notagain said: Auto parts today are like anything else they are too cheap to mess around with rebuilding and a new part has a warranty, my bad, not in thailand. My Vigo alternator packed up, replacement was 10,000bht...Place we know charged 3,500bht to replace all the tech stuff AND fit a smaller pulley to increase charge at low rpm...They KNEW my ride being auto constantly using low rpm can be a ploblem...???? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
anon2736434 Posted October 22, 2018 Share Posted October 22, 2018 They replaced the internal voltage regulator and a pulley for 3500 baht, now when the bearings inside or the internals fail you will pay the 10000 baht which seems like an excessive price for an alternator. https://www.lazada.co.th/products/toyota-vigo-25-30-cc1kd-2kd80a-i172215753-s215295706.html?gclid=CjwKCAjwx7DeBRBJEiwA9MeX_P0SQhMHCq4wCGCR6_VH0u5kbz2yDQRiS56pfbiHhEyemoLaXDkF9BoCUkQQAvD_BwE&s_kwcid=AL!3152!3!286179630377!!!u!!&exlaz=d_1:mm_150050845_51350205_2010350205::12:1498579383!58089999096!!!pla-296303633664!c!296303633664!215295706!120285392&utm_source=google&utm_medium=sem_non_brand&utm_content=296303633664_215295706_120285392&utm_campaign=[SSC-000000000000-00000-00000-0]: Smart Shopping Campaign&utm_term=[SSC-000000000000-00000-00000-0]: Smart Shopping Campaign_xxto0000000at0000_c_pla-296303633664&adjust_tracker=t2v78t_5n20iw&adjust_campaign=1498579383&adjust_adgroup=58089999096_c_pla-296303633664&adjust_creative=296303633664_215295706_120285392&tracker_limit=1000000&ef_id=VU70-AAABJBpCztY:20181022051126:s Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
transam Posted October 22, 2018 Share Posted October 22, 2018 3 minutes ago, Notagain said: They replaced the internal voltage regulator and a pulley for 3500 baht, now when the bearings inside or the internals fail you will pay the 10000 baht which seems like an excessive price for an alternator. https://www.lazada.co.th/products/toyota-vigo-25-30-cc1kd-2kd80a-i172215753-s215295706.html?gclid=CjwKCAjwx7DeBRBJEiwA9MeX_P0SQhMHCq4wCGCR6_VH0u5kbz2yDQRiS56pfbiHhEyemoLaXDkF9BoCUkQQAvD_BwE&s_kwcid=AL!3152!3!286179630377!!!u!!&exlaz=d_1:mm_150050845_51350205_2010350205::12:1498579383!58089999096!!!pla-296303633664!c!296303633664!215295706!120285392&utm_source=google&utm_medium=sem_non_brand&utm_content=296303633664_215295706_120285392&utm_campaign=[SSC-000000000000-00000-00000-0]: Smart Shopping Campaign&utm_term=[SSC-000000000000-00000-00000-0]: Smart Shopping Campaign_xxto0000000at0000_c_pla-296303633664&adjust_tracker=t2v78t_5n20iw&adjust_campaign=1498579383&adjust_adgroup=58089999096_c_pla-296303633664&adjust_creative=296303633664_215295706_120285392&tracker_limit=1000000&ef_id=VU70-AAABJBpCztY:20181022051126:s You are assuming stuff....Mrs.Trans took pics of the rebuild...???? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
anon2736434 Posted October 22, 2018 Share Posted October 22, 2018 And you are telling stories without any info. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
transam Posted October 22, 2018 Share Posted October 22, 2018 2 minutes ago, Notagain said: And you are telling stories without any info. Well this is/was my Pontiac fun ride...Take a look at the alternator, one I rebuilt and polished....Tell me what car it was originally fitted to...? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HAKAPALITA Posted October 22, 2018 Share Posted October 22, 2018 1 hour ago, transam said: My Vigo alternator packed up, replacement was 10,000bht...Place we know charged 3,500bht to replace all the tech stuff AND fit a smaller pulley to increase charge at low rpm...They KNEW my ride being auto constantly using low rpm can be a ploblem...???? Did it have Battery with correct Amp Hour to suit Alternator.?. Or one too big. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
transam Posted October 22, 2018 Share Posted October 22, 2018 Just now, HAKAPALITA said: Did it have Battery with correct Amp Hour to suit Alternator.?. Or one too big. All was stock, shop said because autos used consistently low rpm it can cause a charge ploblem....On my fun ride I increased the pulley diameter to slow it down..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
anon2736434 Posted October 22, 2018 Share Posted October 22, 2018 yes toyota engineers are all dummies but those thai mechanics are experts lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
transam Posted October 22, 2018 Share Posted October 22, 2018 4 hours ago, transam said: Well this is/was my Pontiac fun ride...Take a look at the alternator, one I rebuilt and polished....Tell me what car it was originally fitted to...? Silly me, the photo for Notagain.....???? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
anon2736434 Posted October 22, 2018 Share Posted October 22, 2018 WOW look at all that chrome and those braided hoses I am def. impressed, bet it made a lot of loud noise too. You are the man. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ClareQuilty Posted October 22, 2018 Author Share Posted October 22, 2018 Car still wouldn't start today. LPG problem I guess. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
canthai55 Posted October 22, 2018 Share Posted October 22, 2018 9 hours ago, Notagain said: a new part has a warranty, my bad, not in thailand. Put new KYB struts in the NV this year, made in Japan, came with one year warranty. Shop even filled out the card and stamped it. You need to find a competent place to do your repairs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
anon2736434 Posted October 22, 2018 Share Posted October 22, 2018 12 minutes ago, canthai55 said: You need to find a competent place to do your repairs. Never seen or been to one here, I do my own work. You can fill out all the cards you want just wait until you want to claim that so called warranty. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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