nausea 4,771 Posted September 17, 2018 Share Posted September 17, 2018 I have no skin in this game, not being Israeli or Palestinian. Amazing how a petty Middle East conflict dominates World politics. Take the big powers away from both sides and I guess they would agree a compromise. It is, after all, a tribal conflict at heart. Link to post Share on other sites
BestB 12,707 Posted September 17, 2018 Share Posted September 17, 2018 2 minutes ago, nausea said: I have no skin in this game, not being Israeli or Palestinian. Amazing how a petty Middle East conflict dominates World politics. Take the big powers away from both sides and I guess they would agree a compromise. It is, after all, a tribal conflict at heart. If you take big powers away, Palestinians will starve to death as they have been living off International aid for over half a century Link to post Share on other sites
Morch 17,556 Posted September 17, 2018 Share Posted September 17, 2018 1 hour ago, nausea said: I have no skin in this game, not being Israeli or Palestinian. Amazing how a petty Middle East conflict dominates World politics. Take the big powers away from both sides and I guess they would agree a compromise. It is, after all, a tribal conflict at heart. There was no such involvement for quite a while, to begin with. Didn't seem to have much bearing on either conflict resolution or violence. Link to post Share on other sites
JimmyTheMook 2,555 Posted September 17, 2018 Share Posted September 17, 2018 Thank God Mr. Trump cut off the US taxpayers aid to these Muslim terrorists. Let them beg off Saudi Arabia or some of their other brethren who give 2 farts about their superfluous plight. Link to post Share on other sites
metisdead 8,960 Posted September 17, 2018 Share Posted September 17, 2018 Off topic posts and the replies have been removed. Link to post Share on other sites
bert bloggs 6,297 Posted September 18, 2018 Share Posted September 18, 2018 12 hours ago, BestB said: If you take big powers away, Palestinians will starve to death as they have been living off International aid for over half a century Yes instead of working hard to build a better land ,they are like those all male immegrants coming to the west ,for handouts ,instead of working to build better lands where they are . Link to post Share on other sites
BestB 12,707 Posted September 18, 2018 Share Posted September 18, 2018 6 hours ago, JimmyTheMook said: Thank God Mr. Trump cut off the US taxpayers aid to these Muslim terrorists. Let them beg off Saudi Arabia or some of their other brethren who give 2 farts about their superfluous plight. Saudi’s do not care and never did, which leaves either turkey or Iran. last thing Iran interested in is helping them to develop but happy to arm them. And turkey as usual does more talking than doing. Link to post Share on other sites
Morch 17,556 Posted September 18, 2018 Share Posted September 18, 2018 12 minutes ago, BestB said: Saudi’s do not care and never did, which leaves either turkey or Iran. last thing Iran interested in is helping them to develop but happy to arm them. And turkey as usual does more talking than doing. Factually untrue. Saudi Arabia provided, and provides financial support for the Palestinians. Diplomatic support as well, some very constructive, some the usual fare. As to "care", countries usually act according to interests, rather than altruistic drives. A whole lot of other financial aid is provided by Qatar, and previously UAE. In this regard, both Turkey and Iran are relative newcomers when it comes to supporting the Palestinians. And both currently face economic woes. Further, casting things as aid to the "Palestinians" is inaccurate, and been that way for a while now. Some countries (like Iran) support one faction (Hamas), but not the other (PA), whereas other players (such as Saudi Arabia) do the opposite. Qatar (and Turkey, to the extent it can afford it) is one of the few countries providing aid still maintaining a working relationship with both (same goes for Egypt, as far as diplomacy and negotiations are concerned). Doesn't have a whole lot to do with the OP, though. Link to post Share on other sites
dexterm 8,173 Posted September 18, 2018 Share Posted September 18, 2018 I am sorry that a 40 year old man has needlessly lost his life leaving 4 orphans. I am sorry that a 17 year old will probably spend the rest of his life in prison. I am sorry that his parents who tried to prevent the killing by warning the PA and IDF, will now have their home bulldozed as a form of illegal collective punishment reminiscent of darker regimes in history. Intelligence have pointed out it is counterproductive and only incites more violence. What incentive is that for whistleblowers trying to prevent future bloodshed? Also note where the killing took place...the illegally occupied West Bank. When Israel ends its illegal occupation such incidents will end too. All of it sadly preventable. Link to post Share on other sites
BestB 12,707 Posted September 18, 2018 Share Posted September 18, 2018 4 minutes ago, dexterm said: I am sorry that a 40 year old man has needlessly lost his life leaving 4 orphans. I am sorry that a 17 year old will probably spend the rest of his life in prison. I am sorry that his parents who tried to prevent the killing by warning the PA and IDF, will now have their home bulldozed as a form of illegal collective punishment reminiscent of darker regimes in history. Intelligence have pointed out it is counterproductive and only incites more violence. What incentive is that for whistleblowers trying to prevent future bloodshed? Also note where the killing took place...the illegally occupied West Bank. When Israel ends its illegal occupation such incidents will end too. All of it sadly preventable. So in summary,Arabs should be free and safe to roam anywhere in Israel but should a Jew be found in an Arab suburb then not only it’s ok to kill him but also Jews fault for being there And to put a cherry on top you are also sad that an attacker will spend his life in jail . Link to post Share on other sites
geriatrickid 21,398 Posted September 18, 2018 Share Posted September 18, 2018 the Palestinian stabbed him in the back That says so much about the dispute between the arabs and Israel. Link to post Share on other sites
Galactus 790 Posted September 18, 2018 Share Posted September 18, 2018 you reap what you sow. everyday lots of Palestinian are gettign killed, their homes and land are stolen and basically they lives are getting screwed by a rogue state called Israel. and its citizens pay the price. sorry, you cannot complain if you support this bloody maniacs ruling israel. still RIP for the deceased. Link to post Share on other sites
BestB 12,707 Posted September 18, 2018 Share Posted September 18, 2018 42 minutes ago, Galactus said: you reap what you sow. everyday lots of Palestinian are gettign killed, their homes and land are stolen and basically they lives are getting screwed by a rogue state called Israel. and its citizens pay the price. sorry, you cannot complain if you support this bloody maniacs ruling israel. still RIP for the deceased. It’s interesting because according to some Israel is their home and their lands , so you saying double stealing? but yeah sorry for those who get caught in a murder or violent attacks , and they get punished But I guess as you said, you reap what you sow. Link to post Share on other sites
BestB 12,707 Posted September 18, 2018 Share Posted September 18, 2018 7 hours ago, Morch said: Factually untrue. Saudi Arabia provided, and provides financial support for the Palestinians. Diplomatic support as well, some very constructive, some the usual fare. As to "care", countries usually act according to interests, rather than altruistic drives. A whole lot of other financial aid is provided by Qatar, and previously UAE. In this regard, both Turkey and Iran are relative newcomers when it comes to supporting the Palestinians. And both currently face economic woes. Further, casting things as aid to the "Palestinians" is inaccurate, and been that way for a while now. Some countries (like Iran) support one faction (Hamas), but not the other (PA), whereas other players (such as Saudi Arabia) do the opposite. Qatar (and Turkey, to the extent it can afford it) is one of the few countries providing aid still maintaining a working relationship with both (same goes for Egypt, as far as diplomacy and negotiations are concerned). Doesn't have a whole lot to do with the OP, though. I do not have a link now but stay tuned , will find it. What Saudi had to say about Palestinians Link to post Share on other sites
Morch 17,556 Posted September 18, 2018 Share Posted September 18, 2018 7 hours ago, dexterm said: I am sorry that a 40 year old man has needlessly lost his life leaving 4 orphans. I am sorry that a 17 year old will probably spend the rest of his life in prison. I am sorry that his parents who tried to prevent the killing by warning the PA and IDF, will now have their home bulldozed as a form of illegal collective punishment reminiscent of darker regimes in history. Intelligence have pointed out it is counterproductive and only incites more violence. What incentive is that for whistleblowers trying to prevent future bloodshed? Also note where the killing took place...the illegally occupied West Bank. When Israel ends its illegal occupation such incidents will end too. All of it sadly preventable. I seriously doubt anyone following your posting history finds the above even half-way believable. Not after thousands (literally) of rants and diatribes demonizing Israel and Israelis as the worst. And that's without even bringing up them times you justified such actions (yeah, go ahead and do that faux indignation and denial bit - we've been over it many times). As for your run-of-the-mill nonsense regarding violence stopping if only Israel did this or that - there was Palestinian violence on offer way before the Israeli occupation became a fact, and way before the first illegal settlement came up. You wouldn't (and you do not) have a clue as to whether this was preventable. Link to post Share on other sites
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