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Video: New Zealander collides with Thai motorcyclist going the wrong way on bridge in Rayong


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Just now, SunsetT said:

They are stupid and dumb but through no fault of their own.

They aren't, they just think differently to you, the whole mindset is completely different.  Remember the isaan Thais are saying exactly the same thing about foreigners who 'know nothing'.  At least one of you is wrong, or more likely, you both are.

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35 minutes ago, dinsdale said:

Yes, the motorcylist should not have been there but (and yes there's a but) the Kiwi seems to be moving pretty quick (hard to tell but sure flies past the truck and the white pickup) but how did he not see the motorcycle. The middle lane was clear to move into to avoid the collision and there seems to be absolutely no movement to avoid.?

You do realise that the helpful circle around the motorcycle was added later, I trust. With a likely closing speed around 120mph and no headlight, it is not easy to see and reaction time would have to include the time taken to realise that it was really happening.

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Here in rural Issan this is a common and dangerous practice especially on dual carriageways where official "U" turns are often infrequent. Motorbikes and cars will drive from a village road onto the carriageway and then proceed on the hard shoulder in the wrong direction towards you rather than take the correct turn to the nearest "U" turn which may be quite a distance away. This is especially dangerous at night when you suddenly see headlights appear in the dark travelling towards you on the wrong side.

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17 minutes ago, Burma Bill said:

Here in rural Issan this is a common and dangerous practice especially on dual carriageways where official "U" turns are often infrequent. Motorbikes and cars will drive from a village road onto the carriageway and then proceed on the hard shoulder in the wrong direction towards you rather than take the correct turn to the nearest "U" turn which may be quite a distance away. This is especially dangerous at night when you suddenly see headlights appear in the dark travelling towards you on the wrong side.

While it is common to see bikes going the wrong way on the hard shoulder/bike lane, this was a bike in the fast lane and that's not common.

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33 minutes ago, mrfill said:

... it is not easy to see and reaction time would have to include the time taken to realise that it was really happening.

My thoughts exactly, but I would still have expected a jink to the left from the car driver, even if there was something there the impact would have been far less devastating.

 

I too have met bikes coming the wrong way on a divided highway, luckily with a reasonable right hand shoulder, they come up very fast from an unexpected direction.

 

Here, note the (lucky) right hand shoulder.

 

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7 hours ago, Lowryderen said:

So the family will not pursue it further... Right! But the NZ should! What about damages to his car, and the psychological factor of having killed someone, even if it's not his fault in any way.. The family should be happy if the NZ don't pursue it further! Sad for them to have lost a family member, but it was to his own stupidity. *If* the motorbike had insurance, it should take care of it, but if not (and thats not unlikely) the family should pay up. Good luck with that though!

Same thing happened to me 4 years ago.  Motorbike overtook lorry and pulled out straight into my path.  Even someone with the reactions of Bruce Lee could not have avoided it, must have had about 25 milliseconds before impact.  Yep the man on the motorbike died instantly.  No crash helmet either, not that it would have made any difference.  My car would have been a write off anywhere else, but I got it fixed and my insurance - YES - MY insurance had to pay as the motorcyclist had none.  In addition I had to pay 200,000 baht more as the insurance would only pay 250k.  Took 6 months to rebuild the car, during which time I hired one at a cost of 30k per month.  So basically cost me a shitload of money just over the stupidity of a Thai motorcyclist.  Am I sorry he died? Not at all.  One less of the idiots around, but another born every minute.  Will they ever learn? No.  Feel sorry for the NZ guy as he will have to foot the bill if he does not have No 1 insurance, and depending on where it happened maybe even the police will try a shakedown as this is too good an opportunity for them to miss (faring kills Thai on motorbike).  Even though the car driver was in the right, the point they will try to put across is that if he wasn't there it could not have happened.  In my case a very powerful local friend of the family interceded on my behalf and the police wound their necks in.

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5 hours ago, Chelseafan said:

Unfortunately Thai's don't always see it that way and would likely blame the New Zealander  - If he wasn't in Thailand then this tragic event wouldn't have occurred.

 

 

Yes it would have occurred sooner or later, because the rider was a complete pratt

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On a city road two lanes in either direction with a central divide... I was on the inside lane and someone stepped off the pavement and started to walk straight towards me. 

 

I was traveling at about 40-50kmh... there was a car to my immediate right so I couldn't change lanes. 

I wondered what on earth the guy walking towards me was doing and when was he going to get out of the way. As soon as I realized he wasn't getting out of the way I had to break sharply and stop in front of him. The pedestrian, a Thai guy, about 40yrs old, looked fairly middle class just carried on walking towards me the stepped back on to the footpath... (there was no blockage on the footpath for him to avoid). 

I wonder if this pedestrian realized how much pain I'd saved him by paying attention to the road ahead of me.

I still wonder what on earth, if anything, was going on in his head. 

 

Thus: This motorcycle rider who died was probably not thinking anything, or he may have simply entered the road and thought he was in his correct lane, not on the wrong side of a divided highway. 

 

 

 

 

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3 minutes ago, richard_smith237 said:

On a city road two lanes in either direction with a central divide... I was on the inside lane and someone stepped off the pavement and started to walk straight towards me. 

 

I was traveling at about 40-50kmh... there was a car to my immediate right so I couldn't change lanes. 

I wondered what on earth the guy walking towards me was doing and when was he going to get out of the way. As soon as I realized he wasn't getting out of the way I had to break sharply and stop in front of him. The pedestrian, a Thai guy, about 40yrs old, looked fairly middle class just carried on walking towards me the stepped back on to the footpath... (there was no blockage on the footpath for him to avoid). 

I wonder if this pedestrian realized how much pain I'd saved him by paying attention to the road ahead of me.

I still wonder what on earth, if anything, was going on in his head. 

 

Thus: This motorcycle rider who died was probably not thinking anything, or he may have simply entered the road and thought he was in his correct lane, not on the wrong side of a divided highway. 

 

 

 

 

He thought he was riding his moto

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8 hours ago, colinneil said:

Another life lost due to stupidity, the motorcyclist was 100% at fault.

What was he doing riding in the fast lane against oncoming traffic?

The dead mans family are not pursuing the case, it would be pointless anyway.

 

Most of the time it would be the trucks fault,   Truck is bigger so trucks fault,  plus not thai driver of truck so money would be paid either way but since  motorcyclist going wrong way this is the unfortunate death caused by himself..

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1 hour ago, lvr181 said:

Thank goodness for dash cam!

This is the exact reason I have dash-cams installed.... 

 

When some motorcycle pulls out of the side street without looking, straight into my path, or if a car does the same, or if a motorcycle drives the wrong way down the street straight into me... when pretty much anything happens and an accident or worse is caused and I'm not at fault the Dash-Cam evidence comes in very handy. 

 

 

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