petedk Posted October 2, 2018 Share Posted October 2, 2018 38 minutes ago, graeme64 said: Yes - they would. BUPA and several others. I have heard one case that according to the insured they did not pay. but also many cases where they do. You need to read the policies carefully. There are many small things that are not covered. That's what makes choosing an insurance company so difficult. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fxe1200 Posted October 2, 2018 Share Posted October 2, 2018 1 hour ago, dinsdale said: Bt25,000 per day and going on Bt150,000 for the op. Expense for the op may not be that over the top but Bt25,000 per day? Well we all know private hospitals are thieves.???? Thieves! In my hometown in Germany the rate is about 11.000 per day. 25.000 is a true ripoff. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fred31 Posted October 2, 2018 Share Posted October 2, 2018 2 hours ago, car720 said: someone please enlighten me as to what insurance everyone is talking about? Not Travel Insurance, that's for sure. Does anyone seriously believe that a Thai insurance company would pay up? yes, of course they would, we have Thai insurance and they pay quickly and in full. No problems Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cardinalblue Posted October 2, 2018 Share Posted October 2, 2018 Very unfortunate he doesn’t have insurance...and no you really can’t plan or expect these of low probability medical events....headaches are symptoms for many things... that said, I doubt if he was Thai he would be facing the same bill...the gov has a tendency to treat him at first rate cost w/o regard to payment just based on him being a Falang...can pay later approach is a form of discrimination or system opportunistic.... any difference from a sukhimvit street vendor upon the appearance of a falang in front of their table? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
moe666 Posted October 2, 2018 Share Posted October 2, 2018 2 hours ago, car720 said: someone please enlighten me as to what insurance everyone is talking about? Not Travel Insurance, that's for sure. Does anyone seriously believe that a Thai insurance company would pay up? Most of the insurance companies that provide health insurance to farangs are european with offices here in Thailand or like AIA an American insurance. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
catman20 Posted October 2, 2018 Share Posted October 2, 2018 2 hours ago, car720 said: and a friend of mine, aged 32, dropped dead of a heart attack in my lounge room in Kalasin. When it hits it hits and that's it. I hate people who have smart arse quips when it is not happening to them. yes very sad and no one knows whats around the next corner, life is very much luck or the draw. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
catman20 Posted October 2, 2018 Share Posted October 2, 2018 1 hour ago, davethailand said: I had Bupa Private health insurance in Thailand for years, on the few occasions I've claimed on it they always paid out. i think insurance is a bit of a rip off however,if you can not afford to pay for your own health problems should you have something like this then i think its a good idea to take out some insurance. im surprised this young guy did not take out insurance when he first came here as at his age then it would not of been expensive. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tony125 Posted October 2, 2018 Share Posted October 2, 2018 No one has brought this up so I will. He has been living in Thailand for 4 years, he got skin cancer 2 years ago. Maybe if had been using sun block would not have had that problem. Bad choices can lead to problems. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
phkauf Posted October 2, 2018 Share Posted October 2, 2018 I am a very healthy person, but this year had some random medical issues pop out out of the blue (stuff happens). Filed over 200,000 baht in claims with Aetna, nee BUPA, and they paid everything but 60 baht. This tool has been in Thailand long enough to see what can happen to others and should have purchased insurance. What is it with the Brits and their attachment to NHS type benefits? A friend of mine refuses to pay 3,000 baht for a test on principle because it would have been free at the NHS. Ahhh the allure of Socialism and how it destroys the mind. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hobobo Posted October 2, 2018 Share Posted October 2, 2018 2 hours ago, car720 said: someone please enlighten me as to what insurance everyone is talking about? Not Travel Insurance, that's for sure. Does anyone seriously believe that a Thai insurance company would pay up? If he took out insurance with an international company such as Bupa (now Aetna) when he first arrived in Thailand, his premiums aged 25 would be laughably small. And for your second point, a friend of mine was recently admitted to the Bangkok Pattaya Hospital and his Thai insurance company paid 85 percent of his total bill. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
smedly Posted October 2, 2018 Share Posted October 2, 2018 2 hours ago, PoorSucker said: That's what Bangkok hospital on koh samui charges, transfer him to government hospital in Nathon and cut the cost to a fraction. better still someone come from the UK and take him home, so he is in a wheelchair and can't talk, how does that stop him from flying Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jonathan Swift Posted October 2, 2018 Share Posted October 2, 2018 The doctors surely know what kind of cancer this is. If it spread from skin cancer it was likely melanoma, and that's a certain death sentence, so, not meaning to be insensitive as I'm a melanoma survivor, but they should be planning funeral expenses. There are few malignant brain tumors that are survivable. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StefanBBK Posted October 2, 2018 Share Posted October 2, 2018 13 minutes ago, hobobo said: If he took out insurance with an international company such as Bupa (now Aetna) when he first arrived in Thailand, his premiums aged 25 would be laughably small. And for your second point, a friend of mine was recently admitted to the Bangkok Pattaya Hospital and his Thai insurance company paid 85 percent of his total bill. Somehow I don't think so, since he just battled cancer. Surely either the insurance would have excluded cancer from cover for some time or raised the premium. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tony125 Posted October 2, 2018 Share Posted October 2, 2018 7 minutes ago, smedly said: better still someone come from the UK and take him home, so he is in a wheelchair and can't talk, how does that stop him from flying If you read the post his mother and younger brother flew here from England. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dallen52 Posted October 2, 2018 Share Posted October 2, 2018 2 hours ago, car720 said: someone please enlighten me as to what insurance everyone is talking about? Not Travel Insurance, that's for sure. Does anyone seriously believe that a Thai insurance company would pay up? Probably good for about 30,000 like the compulsory government car insurance. Pattaya public wants 50,000 to admit you now, and will not claim from your insurance if you have any. Up to you... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ron19 Posted October 2, 2018 Share Posted October 2, 2018 More off topic posts and answers to them have been removed. Keep it up, there are still many holidays left in the barrel. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mikeasq60 Posted October 2, 2018 Share Posted October 2, 2018 It sucks to be this blok. Isnt there an old Asian saying lets see if I remember it, it goes something like this "No Money, No Honey" so true in any Asian country for anything! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ncc1701d Posted October 2, 2018 Share Posted October 2, 2018 Most travel insurance I’ve seen would not be usable past a few months of living in a place. Article says he’s been here 4 years. So I doubt travel insurance would have helped him. He needed normal health insurance from a reputable company in Thailand - as does anyone who wants to be taken care of. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
meinphuket Posted October 2, 2018 Share Posted October 2, 2018 3 hours ago, car720 said: someone please enlighten me as to what insurance everyone is talking about? Not Travel Insurance, that's for sure. Does anyone seriously believe that a Thai insurance company would pay up? AETNA (formerly BUPA) AXA, to name but two, provide health insurance. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sungod Posted October 2, 2018 Share Posted October 2, 2018 31 minutes ago, hobobo said: If he took out insurance with an international company such as Bupa (now Aetna) when he first arrived in Thailand, his premiums aged 25 would be laughably small. And there lies the real tragedy, health insurance for the young is easily affordable. Whilst that wont help this guy, hopefully any young people of a similar age reading this thread will take note. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
khunpa Posted October 2, 2018 Share Posted October 2, 2018 Same thing happens to my wife 3 years ago. She could suddenly not stand on and control her left leg. We went to the hospital and she was 2 hours later diagnosed with a brain tumor. Only partly insured, we had to come up with THB 700.000 within a week for the operation. Luckily we had savings and the tumor could be removed or she would have been dead today. Things like this does happen and a brain tumor is one of the worst forms of cancer there is. Insurance or not, I hope this guy gets help and recovers. Cancer sucks!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tony125 Posted October 2, 2018 Share Posted October 2, 2018 6 minutes ago, ncc1701d said: Most travel insurance I’ve seen would not be usable past a few months of living in a place. Article says he’s been here 4 years. So I doubt travel insurance would have helped him. He needed normal health insurance from a reputable company in Thailand - as does anyone who wants to be taken care of. Well then you have not seen those that do cover long term abroad. Many replies just in this post talk of expats having Travel Insurance that covers for 6---12 months outside their home country. The insured simply return to their home country every 6---12 months and take out a new policy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ncc1701d Posted October 2, 2018 Share Posted October 2, 2018 4 minutes ago, Tony125 said: Well then you have not seen those that do cover long term abroad. Many replies just in this post talk of expats having Travel Insurance that covers for 6---12 months outside their home country. The insured simply return to their home country every 6---12 months and take out a new policy. Yeah - but that’s not even close to what is happening here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
suzannegoh Posted October 2, 2018 Share Posted October 2, 2018 37 minutes ago, smedly said: better still someone come from the UK and take him home, so he is in a wheelchair and can't talk, how does that stop him from flying Sometimes people with brain tumors are advised not to fly any significant disance because if a seizure occurred on an airplane it may be impossible to get medical assistance. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fantom Posted October 2, 2018 Share Posted October 2, 2018 2 minutes ago, suzannegoh said: Sometimes people with brain tumors are advised not to fly any significant disance because if a seizure occurred on an airplane it may be impossible to get medical assistance. The airline would insist upon a medical clearance prior to allowing him to fly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shackleton Posted October 2, 2018 Share Posted October 2, 2018 there for the grace of God go me good luck on the "Go Fund Me" and receive the treatment towards recovery Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ncc1701d Posted October 2, 2018 Share Posted October 2, 2018 6 minutes ago, fantom said: The airline would insist upon a medical clearance prior to allowing him to fly. They could also ask him to sign a waiver not to divert if something happens. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spock Posted October 2, 2018 Share Posted October 2, 2018 If he had taken out health insurance after the skin cancer, wouldn't the brain tumour be considered a known condition and therefore not covered by insurance? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kannot Posted October 2, 2018 Share Posted October 2, 2018 On 9/29/2018 at 3:50 PM, oldrunner said: Life can be a real B**ch but much of our trip is pre-ordained in another life Id love to see the evidence of that Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Time Traveller Posted October 2, 2018 Share Posted October 2, 2018 Just 15,000 pounds?....let me get my checkbook Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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