webfact Posted October 1, 2018 Share Posted October 1, 2018 The Joke's on you as Surachate takes over immigration promising "No Tip" department Picture: Thai Rath Thailand's famous crime buster "Big Joke" has been welcomed to his new job - as head of immigration. And he started off with some tough words promising action against unscrupulous visa agents and even perhaps his own new department. He is determined to stamp out back-handers and Thai Rath said that "No Tip" signs would be going up at immigration centers. Today the outgoing chief Lt Gen Suthipong Wongpin formally welcomed Maj-Gen Surachate Hakpan to his new position. Flowers were handed to both men in a "sacred" ceremony. Surachate praised the work of Suthipong promising to take up from where he left off. But he pledged a tightening up of procedures and a drive to 4.0 meaning a more modern department. He also said he would create 1,000 new jobs in immigration to improve efficiency. Top of his "to do" list are agents who rip people off for visas. And he is determined to create an honest transparency in immigration affairs with his "No Tip" signs. (Thai Rath in fact said NO TRIP in English in their article but we think we know what they meant, notes Thaivisa). Thai Rath also called Surachate "THE Joke" though it was not clear if this meant there was a departure form his familiar moniker that he has come to be known by - Big Joke. Source: Thai Rath -- © Copyright Thai Visa News 2018-10-01 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thequietman Posted October 1, 2018 Share Posted October 1, 2018 2 minutes ago, webfact said: And he is determined to create an honest transparency in immigration affairs with his "No Tip" signs So, no more paying for cert of residence for licence and other things? A list of requirements that we can refer to when getting our paperwork ready The removal of the expression "new rule, new rule" Knowledge of the exact requirements needed for proof of income by the officers I will not hold my breadth. Neither should you and neither should Big Joke. Same shit, different boss. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jvs Posted October 1, 2018 Share Posted October 1, 2018 Maybe something to do with the big 300 baht (tip) scam at the airport?Lots of work for him but it will no doubt affect a lot of people who are buying their visa each year. If everything will be more strict there will be a lot less people entering the Kingdom by ommiting the law. More to come i am sure. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darcula Posted October 1, 2018 Share Posted October 1, 2018 11 minutes ago, webfact said: Flowers were handed to both men in a "sacred" ceremony. I'm guessing the watch doctor gave a red rose to the winner. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bluesofa Posted October 1, 2018 Share Posted October 1, 2018 13 minutes ago, webfact said: He also said he would create 1,000 new jobs in immigration to improve efficiency. To my way of thinking, that would reduce efficiency, by creating more jobs to do the same work. Perhaps he has some cunning plan, Baldrick? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ossy Posted October 1, 2018 Share Posted October 1, 2018 5 minutes ago, webfact said: . . . promising action against unscrupulous visa agents and even PERHAPS his own new department . . . . . . and Thai Rath said that "No Tip" signs would be going up at immigration centers. No Tip signs something for the Joker to brag about? They're bloody well not. An unequivocally worded sign was prominently displayed at the Sakon Nakhon Imm Pol office, three years ago, when the back-hander furor surfaced with a vengeance. The man is clearly not well-informed re the IP force's achievement history and has already justified to his 'Big Joke' nickname. And what's this about his own new department PERHAPS getting a looking at? Sounds to me like he's already scared of the big bad boys he's likely to be crossing paths with. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KhunBENQ Posted October 1, 2018 Share Posted October 1, 2018 12 minutes ago, thequietman said: So, no more paying for cert of residence for licence and other things? It will be called a fee and you get a receipt And the 1900 Baht fee for extension will be 1900 not 2000 with 100 Baht tip. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vacuum Posted October 1, 2018 Share Posted October 1, 2018 7 minutes ago, KhunBENQ said: It will be called a fee and you get a receipt It's already (and has been for a long time) called a "fee" and you'll get a receipt for 'express' service. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KhunBENQ Posted October 1, 2018 Share Posted October 1, 2018 2 minutes ago, Vacuum said: It's already (and has been for a long time) called a "fee" and you'll get a receipt for 'express' service. So also not covered by "no tip". It' many years that I needed one. Just remember that I paid for. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SABloke Posted October 1, 2018 Share Posted October 1, 2018 32 minutes ago, webfact said: He also said he would create 1,000 new jobs in immigration to improve efficiency. How about replacing the 5 people that currently process my re-entry permit with 1 person. Why do they need so many people to give me a re-entry permit? The real leg work is done by the 3 (still 2 too many) IO's that process my annual extension. Why do these re-entry people take so long? Surely they should just take my money and stamp my passport. Then we would have 5 re-entries being processed concurrently - way more efficient. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bluesofa Posted October 1, 2018 Share Posted October 1, 2018 1 minute ago, Vacuum said: It's already (and has been for a long time) called a "fee" and you'll get a receipt for 'express' service. Perhaps there will be a hotline number to call Big Joke's office and dob in the cowboys. Thaksin had a hotline when he had his police corruption crackdown. That resulted in bars being expressly told by the police themselves, NOT to pay them any money. It was payment-free for about three months IIRC. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Justgrazing Posted October 1, 2018 Share Posted October 1, 2018 And how's about sorting the queue's out at Suv' .. and while you're at it get some immigration officer's who don't look at you stone faced when stamping up yo passport after you eventually do get dismissively beckoned forward .. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thailand Posted October 1, 2018 Share Posted October 1, 2018 First first stop ChiangMai, but he may have to join a queue to get in. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thaiwrath Posted October 1, 2018 Share Posted October 1, 2018 If he does a good job here, promote him to sort out the corruption amongst the police and politicians. ???? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
webfact Posted October 1, 2018 Author Share Posted October 1, 2018 Surachet Hakpal appointed as Immigration Bureau Commissioner BANGKOK, 1st October 2018, (NNT) - Police Major General Surachet Hakpal has been appointed to the position of Commissioner of the Immigration Bureau. Acting Commissioner of the Metropolitan Police Bureau Pol. Lt. Gen. Sutthipong Wongpinhanded on the role to Police Major General Surachet. Both also attended a merit making ceremony marking the occasion. Pol. Maj. Gen. Surachet said that the bureau under his direction would remain strict on checking the eligibility of passengers to enter the kingdom at entry points, while implementing technology to comply with the government’s Thailand 4.0 initiative. He also revealed a plan to enlist a thousand more employees to accommodate the rising number of visitors to the nation. The new Immigration Bureau Commissioner also touched on the issue of officials allegedly extorting tour operators, promising the public to tighten the regulations to prevent the issue from damaging the image of Thailand. He said banners will be erected to inform tourists that there are no extra charges for immigration processing. n addition, an investigation into the matter will be launched this week to find the culprits. Violators will be prosecuted and are likely to face embezzlement charges. -- nnt 2018-10-01 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
darksidedog Posted October 1, 2018 Share Posted October 1, 2018 I wish I had a dollar for every time someone made me a promise they had no chance of keeping! Life will carry on the same and the rip offs will continue and Big Joke is a bigger idiot than I previously booked him for, if he really thinks he can clean it all up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ossy Posted October 1, 2018 Share Posted October 1, 2018 13 minutes ago, Thaiwrath said: If he does a good job here, promote him to sort out the corruption amongst the police and politicians. ???? Oh - yes . . . dream on. They wouldn't dare appoint someone whom they feared might start lifting the carpet. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BEngBKK Posted October 1, 2018 Share Posted October 1, 2018 I newer had to bribe any immigration workers...... My life is so borring....... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Small Joke Posted October 1, 2018 Share Posted October 1, 2018 My Mrs knows an immigration officer. Apparently online reporting will be upgraded from Win 95 to Win 98. The 90 day report will be reduced to just a 90 hour report. And free glowsticks handed out to all those who diligently line up at 3am for the 8am lottery of visa appointments. Bad guys out, insomniacs in. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
smedly Posted October 1, 2018 Share Posted October 1, 2018 2 hours ago, webfact said: Top of his "to do" list are agents who rip people off for visas. And he is determined to create an honest transparency in immigration affairs with his "No Tip" signs. That could cause problems for a lot of people who don't meet the Extension requirements and use agents and backhanders to get their applications through, I personally know many Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
worgeordie Posted October 1, 2018 Share Posted October 1, 2018 2 hours ago, webfact said: He also said he would create 1,000 new jobs in immigration to improve efficiency. At least a 100 urgently needed at Chiang Mai Immigration, so people requiring a retirement extension don't have start queing in middle of the night ,just to make sure they can been seen that day,and are not coerced into paying exorbitant fees to agents,come on Big Joke shake up the system. regards worgeordie Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nyezhov Posted October 1, 2018 Share Posted October 1, 2018 18 minutes ago, smedly said: That could cause problems for a lot of people who don't meet the Extension requirements and use agents and backhanders to get their applications through, I personally know many Guess that brings Thailand into the 21st century then. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vacuum Posted October 1, 2018 Share Posted October 1, 2018 57 minutes ago, Small Joke said: Apparently online reporting will be upgraded from Win 95 to Win 98. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yougivemebaby Posted October 1, 2018 Share Posted October 1, 2018 So no more VIP service ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BoganInParasite Posted October 1, 2018 Share Posted October 1, 2018 How about uniform application of the law, regulations, policies and procedures across all Immigration offices. And get rid of the ridiculous annual verification of genuine marriages for couples who have already proved they are in such a relationship. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
madmitch Posted October 1, 2018 Share Posted October 1, 2018 27 minutes ago, BoganInParasite said: How about uniform application of the law, regulations, policies and procedures across all Immigration offices. And get rid of the ridiculous annual verification of genuine marriages for couples who have already proved they are in such a relationship. I'm sure we could start a whole new thread on things we'd like to improve at Immigration, though I do agree that lack of consistency and ever-changing rules are a bigger problem to most of us than tipping and extortion. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mentalcolonization Posted October 2, 2018 Share Posted October 2, 2018 For sure, now Thailand would be Nigerian free Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
poohy Posted October 2, 2018 Share Posted October 2, 2018 16 hours ago, smedly said: That could cause problems for a lot of people who don't meet the Extension requirements and use agents and backhanders to get their applications through, I personally know many And also Think that might upset too any senior immigration officers who are also visa gents At my immigration office much more work goes on outside than inside plus those using agents get seen to a lot quicker Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
inThailand Posted October 2, 2018 Share Posted October 2, 2018 With all the recent problems the Chinese have been experiencing, isn't his appointment and his efforts be geared to them? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FritsSikkink Posted October 2, 2018 Share Posted October 2, 2018 19 hours ago, thequietman said: So, no more paying for cert of residence for licence and other things? Why shouldn't you have to pay if you need a service? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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