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On 10/2/2018 at 6:34 PM, tingtongtourist said:

but that can even work in your favour: many traffic jam my way when raining, and im not sitting in a cab for hours, just get a bus or van

So the bus or van just flies over the traffic jam does it?

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2 hours ago, HHTel said:

 

well, they say different here:

https://www.reuters.com/article/us-uber-thailand/thai-transport-authorities-crack-down-on-uber-grab-drivers-seek-ban-idUSKBN16E17R

 

check here too.

and tell me, how this works?

legal taxies pony up a million to get registered officially while grab taxis do their business with white plates.  according to a taxi drive i talked, he said 1.2 million baht for a plate in bangkok if i dont remember wrong and he was saying like investment will pay itself in like 7 years with the cost of taxi car.

open your eyes a bit and understand why these legal taxi guys get aggressive. 

yeah it is easy and selfish to think like 'i do whatever i want and call my taxi wherever i want'

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Better taxi service requires better regulation implemented by an effective police force and taxi regulator. GFL Thailand.


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Taxi, Tuk and Motorcycle drivers, along with day tour operators, ruin most tourists holidays to Thailand. One ugly moment can ruin a family holiday.

You almost can’t blame the Chinese for coming here in their own buses, going to their own restaurants, being led around by their own people.


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well, they say different here:
https://www.reuters.com/article/us-uber-thailand/thai-transport-authorities-crack-down-on-uber-grab-drivers-seek-ban-idUSKBN16E17R
 
check here too.
and tell me, how this works?
legal taxies pony up a million to get registered officially while grab taxis do their business with white plates.  according to a taxi drive i talked, he said 1.2 million baht for a plate in bangkok if i dont remember wrong and he was saying like investment will pay itself in like 7 years with the cost of taxi car.
open your eyes a bit and understand why these legal taxi guys get aggressive. 
yeah it is easy and selfish to think like 'i do whatever i want and call my taxi wherever i want'
Sorry I doubt that it costs more than a million baht to register a taxi.
Alone the massive number of taxis in Bangkok let this figure seem very unlikely already...

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28 minutes ago, Galactus said:

 

well, they say different here:

https://www.reuters.com/article/us-uber-thailand/thai-transport-authorities-crack-down-on-uber-grab-drivers-seek-ban-idUSKBN16E17R

 

check here too.

and tell me, how this works?

legal taxies pony up a million to get registered officially while grab taxis do their business with white plates.  according to a taxi drive i talked, he said 1.2 million baht for a plate in bangkok if i dont remember wrong and he was saying like investment will pay itself in like 7 years with the cost of taxi car.

open your eyes a bit and understand why these legal taxi guys get aggressive. 

yeah it is easy and selfish to think like 'i do whatever i want and call my taxi wherever i want'

Clearly something wrong with system when they pay 1.2 million and the end product is easily outcompeted by a random dude with a car and a smartphone.

 

Where did those 1.2 million go and for what?? 

 

They thought them how to drive? How to navigate? How to speak with customers?? All solved by common sense + smartphone app.. 1.2 million was a waste of money... I feel bad for them...kind of... But then when they overcharge themselves out of the market they have only themselves to blame.

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15 minutes ago, Galactus said:

 

well, they say different here:

https://www.reuters.com/article/us-uber-thailand/thai-transport-authorities-crack-down-on-uber-grab-drivers-seek-ban-idUSKBN16E17R

 

check here too.

and tell me, how this works?

legal taxies pony up a million to get registered officially while grab taxis do their business with white plates.  according to a taxi drive i talked, he said 1.2 million baht for a plate in bangkok if i dont remember wrong and he was saying like investment will pay itself in like 7 years with the cost of taxi car.

open your eyes a bit and understand why these legal taxi guys get aggressive. 

yeah it is easy and selfish to think like 'i do whatever i want and call my taxi wherever i want'

Uber sold out to grab a long time ago. That link must be out of date. It doesn't matter how much they pay to operate many still operate illegally. Bangkok taxis are generally way better than tourist town taxis like Hua Hin or on islands like Phuket or Samui. 

If taxis are as wonderful as you seem to think, why is anyone using Grab? We are pissed off with being ripped off and treated badly by mafia controlled @rseholes.

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43 minutes ago, Galactus said:

 

well, they say different here:

https://www.reuters.com/article/us-uber-thailand/thai-transport-authorities-crack-down-on-uber-grab-drivers-seek-ban-idUSKBN16E17R

 

check here too.

and tell me, how this works?

legal taxies pony up a million to get registered officially while grab taxis do their business with white plates.  according to a taxi drive i talked, he said 1.2 million baht for a plate in bangkok if i dont remember wrong and he was saying like investment will pay itself in like 7 years with the cost of taxi car.

open your eyes a bit and understand why these legal taxi guys get aggressive. 

yeah it is easy and selfish to think like 'i do whatever i want and call my taxi wherever i want'

Look at the date of those reports.  That was some time ago.  Everything changes.

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10 minutes ago, chang1 said:

Uber sold out to grab a long time ago. That link must be out of date. It doesn't matter how much they pay to operate many still operate illegally. Bangkok taxis are generally way better than tourist town taxis like Hua Hin or on islands like Phuket or Samui. 

If taxis are as wonderful as you seem to think, why is anyone using Grab? We are pissed off with being ripped off and treated badly by mafia controlled @rseholes.

 

yep, then you use another mafia, an international one which operates illegally. moreover, living in highly tourist cities of course have some disadvantages and sorry but you cant complain for that. move to ubon ratchathani for example. taxi guys are great there and cheap. and less tourist, less competition, less aggressiveness.

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2 minutes ago, HHTel said:

Look at the date of those reports.  That was some time ago.  Everything changes.

 

clearly, only registered legal taxi with proper plates can work for grab taxi, rest is illegal. no need to be a genius to understand that. hence all these protests by legal taxi guys.

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20 minutes ago, hobz said:

Clearly something wrong with system when they pay 1.2 million and the end product is easily outcompeted by a random dude with a car and a smartphone.

 

Where did those 1.2 million go and for what?? 

 

They thought them how to drive? How to navigate? How to speak with customers?? All solved by common sense + smartphone app.. 1.2 million was a waste of money... I feel bad for them...kind of... But then when they overcharge themselves out of the market they have only themselves to blame.

 

unfortunately but that is bc of 35 million tourists coming to thailand making these guys aggressive. moreover, they need to pay 1000 to 1200 to the owner of gaxi if they are drivers. that makes them more aggressive i reckon. can understand the pressure? just some empathy. you need to make 1200 baht a day just to cover the rent and you need to pay petrol, food and for your family waiting for food back home.

it is easy to speak from your comfy chair in front of your computer!

 

sure legal taxi guys improve their services but they will due to the fear of grab or uber. new regulations follow in time too.

anyway, no way i support grab or uber.

prefer to pay 50 baht more to a local guy. but that is me.

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40 minutes ago, Galactus said:

 

clearly, only registered legal taxi with proper plates can work for grab taxi, rest is illegal. no need to be a genius to understand that. hence all these protests by legal taxi guys.

That is what I said! http://englishnews.thaipbs.or.th/ride-hailing-taxi-service-ok-cars-must-properly-registered/

 

There are illegal ops on both sides.  In the case in question, the tuk-tuk driver was also illegal.  The fact is that Grab is operating legally in a number of countries including Thailand.

 

GrabTaxi Holdings Pte. Ltd. (branded as simply Grab) is a Singapore-based technology company that offers the only ride-hailing, ride sharing, and logistics services through its app in Singapore and neighboring Southeast Asian nations Malaysia, Indonesia, Philippines, Vietnam, Thailand, Myanmar, and Cambodia.

 

Local taxi drivers need to accept that and compete. Doesn't come naturally here unfortunately.

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unfortunately but that is bc of 35 million tourists coming to thailand making these guys aggressive. moreover, they need to pay 1000 to 1200 to the owner of gaxi if they are drivers. that makes them more aggressive i reckon. can understand the pressure? just some empathy. you need to make 1200 baht a day just to cover the rent and you need to pay petrol, food and for your family waiting for food back home.
it is easy to speak from your comfy chair in front of your computer!
 
sure legal taxi guys improve their services but they will due to the fear of grab or uber. new regulations follow in time too.
anyway, no way i support grab or uber.
prefer to pay 50 baht more to a local guy. but that is me.
I have a different opinion, especially in Bangkok.
They can't generate a proper income because there are simply too much taxis competing for customers.
Supply and demand, simple calculation.
Nobody forces them to drive taxi.
The lazy ones are also the most aggressive ones and trying to cheat.
Why should they then refuse to take passengers somewhere or not drive by meter...
No wonder they have no money every day if they act like this...

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1 hour ago, Galactus said:

 

yep, then you use another mafia, an international one which operates illegally. moreover, living in highly tourist cities of course have some disadvantages and sorry but you cant complain for that. move to ubon ratchathani for example. taxi guys are great there and cheap. and less tourist, less competition, less aggressiveness.

I don't know how legal Grab taxis are but on here more people think they can operate legally than not. I would not class a legal reputable company that provides a good service as a mafia.

You then are arguing against yourself. Ubon tuk tuks are nothing like the ones found in say Phuket. Grab will have trouble making business there as there will be little need for it. You will not see many complaints about Ubon taxis. Just because you live in Phuket doesn't mean you should have to put up with bad service from rouge drivers. Would your opinion change if when in Ubon you had to pay 200 Baht to go 300m,  risk being beat up if you said the fare was wrong or being driven at speeds way above the speed limit? 

A tuk tuk in Phuket has only slightly higher expenses and potentially more customers than one in Ubon so there is no justification for fares 4 or more times higher for an inferior service.

 

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1 hour ago, Galactus said:

anyway, no way i support grab or uber.

prefer to pay 50 baht more to a local guy. but that is me.

The Grab driver is a local guy who doesn't hand your 50 Baht over to the local mafia.

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