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Video: "Welcome to Chiang Mai" - tourists forced to leave GrabCar as tempers flare

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I will agree that the outlay for a proper cab can be high & some of these guys get my sympathy.

The trouble is that the 40% of yahoos who drive taxis ruin it for the rest & need to 

go to a training school to learn about hygiene, being polite and a course on anger management,

road sense, budgeting & knowledge of the routes they are driving in.

This is even before they can prove that they can drive a vehicle.

The taxi association (if there is such an animal) only have themselves to blame

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Social media is at last showing the true face of Thailand... scratch the surface and you can witness this behaviour everywhere!

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19 hours ago, Grusa said:

Correct me if I am wrong - I am sure somebody will - but I believe there is a difference between Grab Taxi and Grab Car. The former is a regular taxi, with or without meter, but at least you know the cost up front, and it's Legal.  Grab Car is an unlicensed private car, like Uber, cheaper, and possibly/probably illegal, but again you know the cost upfront but with a better chance to be shot in the head. Then there's Grab Tuk Tuk, Motocy, Delivery, Prostitute, etc., wouldn't know about them!

 

I am just back from atriparound Australia. My impression of taxis there, in even the skankiest towns, one number nationwide to call a taxi, courteous service, vehicles vary from very good to atrociously old and filthy, drivers in the boonies very good and knowledgeable, in fhe cities clueless immigrants, the GPS and Communications systems are awesome including payment by EPOS, expensive and all suffer from the supplementary charges for airport pick-up/delivery. 

I tried Uber, no response, useless - in Sydney, at least.

Regarding The supplementary charges for airports to be fair that doesn’t go to the taxi driver but is a charge levied by the owners of the airport which was privatized years ago.

We recently visited the UK which involved flying into Manchester and were charged two UK pounds for pickup and drop off in a taxi again a charge levied by the owners of the airport, even applies if your in a private car.

Talk about a licence to print money.

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4 hours ago, Galactus said:

grab is a half foreign owned company providing illegal services

 

4 hours ago, Galactus said:

Grab Taxi should be closed bc it is illegal.

It's not.  Do catch up,  Recognised by the DLT in 2017 providing the car is properly registered.

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You gotta love the comedic value of this report, an unlicensed tuk tuk driver attacks an unlicensed grab driver...LOL...and it's not his first time.... says it all... so you have to ask why does he feel he has the right to attack someone who is doing exactly what he is doing? It can only come down to one thing, he believes he has paid someone for the 'right' to be there. People need to start thinking carefully about picking up a family member or friend from the airport, you could be next!!!

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On 10/2/2018 at 5:42 PM, Formaleins said:

They ruin everything they touch, bunch of ar$eholes the lot of them Time for more tourists to use Grab, if it gets around enough it will be stopped aand people can choose their ride freely. Nothing worse than some of those old repulsive fossils that "drive: those red cars around Chiang Mai. They cannot drive to save their lives and continuously cause hold ups and near accidents. I would drive them all out to a big empty field, lock them in their shitty red cars, chuck a gallon of gas on them and burn the lot of them. Chiang Mai would be better off without them.

 

So, you're suggesting that many thousands Thai people, should use Grab instead of the red cars? You must be insane if you think this would work.

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8 hours ago, car720 said:

The taxi driver ends up paying for that.  It is charged directly by the government.  The taxi driver only makes what is on the meter which is also set by the government.

You are not thinking this through. If the government did not make this charge, meter fares could be lowered. Customers are paying and the driver is just giving it to the government in advance. 

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6 hours ago, Galactus said:

grab is a half foreign owned company providing illegal services and their service is never great as they say as well.

and it steals the jobs of locals and money goes to Singapore possibly tax free?

I never understand the logic of calling a grab taxi in a bus station where there are lots of other taxis.

for what, for paying 30 baht less?

Grab Taxi should be closed bc it is illegal. Legal taxi guys pay tax and pay to mafia and pay for queue and all. grab taxi guys pay nothing.

If you were in the same situation, you do the same to protect your turf and to feed your family. easy to speak from here.

I don't think I can agree with anything you are saying to justify what happened.

"service is never great as they say as well." Thai taxi service is not without its faults either.

"it steals the jobs of locals and money goes to Singapore possibly tax free?" Thailand "steals" British jobs by selling products cheaper than the "locals" can make them.

"Grab Taxi should be closed bc it is illegal." Is it illegal? This one may have been but so was the tuk tuk driver.

"and pay to mafia" this alone is reason not to use them. 

"If you were in the same situation, you do the same to protect your turf and to feed your family. easy to speak from here." No I would not behave like these pricks. If Grab is so much more profitable then I would do the sensible thing and register with Grab. 

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35 minutes ago, chang1 said:

I don't think I can agree with anything you are saying to justify what happened.

"service is never great as they say as well." Thai taxi service is not without its faults either.

"it steals the jobs of locals and money goes to Singapore possibly tax free?" Thailand "steals" British jobs by selling products cheaper than the "locals" can make them.

"Grab Taxi should be closed bc it is illegal." Is it illegal? This one may have been but so was the tuk tuk driver.

"and pay to mafia" this alone is reason not to use them. 

"If you were in the same situation, you do the same to protect your turf and to feed your family. easy to speak from here." No I would not behave like these pricks. If Grab is so much more profitable then I would do the sensible thing and register with Grab. 

 

yes, grab is illegal. you dont know that?

Thai products doesnt steal British jobs too! c'mon, what is the relation?

this is not a product, an illegal service and i prefer to support locals than a Singaporean company doing illegal business.

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7 hours ago, Galactus said:

I never understand the logic of calling a grab taxi in a bus station where there are lots of other taxis.

for what, for paying 30 baht less?

This comment needs its own reply.

I cannot understand why you would pay 30 Baht more for a taxi.

Toenail sums it up nicely

"Sad the local “taxi” or tuk-tuk drivers cannot understand why many people prefer to use their smartphones and book a “Grab” or “Uber” ( not found in SE Asia)  1) Reliable drivers that are rated by the customer 2) clean cars 3) well groomed drivers 4) no nonsense in price 5) a feeling of confidence since the driver is held accountable whereas a driver with the taxi mafia is not"

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27 minutes ago, Galactus said:

 

yes, grab is illegal. you dont know that?

Thai products doesnt steal British jobs too! c'mon, what is the relation?

this is not a product, an illegal service and i prefer to support locals than a Singaporean company doing illegal business.

 

Many on here say it is legal. No I don't know.

The relation is simple - supply and demand. In the UK we demand products that are made in Thailand cheaper than it is possible to make them in the UK. This gives jobs to Thais, who can do a better job at making things cheap, which could be done by UK workers.

Grab can provide a better service because it is run by people in Singapore or wherever. So instead of giving "jobs" to local mafia they are given to people who can do a far better job of running the service.

"i prefer to support locals than a Singaporean company doing illegal business." Why? These taxi and tuk tuks are run by illegal mafias, they often use violence to remove and stop competition (including from Thais). Outside of Bangkok they illegally refuse to use the meter. I have had drivers deliberately take long routes to inflate the fare if on a meter. This is the second time that driver has used violence. 

I was in Singapore years ago and their taxis were great. Polite, efficient and even had a notice in the car saying please don't tip the driver as it is discouraged. I have had many good drivers in Bangkok and some rural places but in most tourist areas it is a completely different story. I would remove all of them and bring in drivers from Singapore in a flash. The local drivers are vermin.

Just one example - my wife (Thai) and 3 friends asked to go somewhere in Hua Hin, they got in and the taxi did a u turn and dropped them off on the other side of the road instead of telling them they were so close already. He still charged them 200 Baht. My wife paid this because it was her fault for not knowing her way around. Don't know who I was more Angry with.

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2 hours ago, Galactus said:

 

yes, grab is illegal. you dont know that?

Thai products doesnt steal British jobs too! c'mon, what is the relation?

this is not a product, an illegal service and i prefer to support locals than a Singaporean company doing illegal business.

 

Really!

 

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Uber and Grab declared legal by Land Transport Department
Jun 26, 2017, 11:26 AM

 

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Ride hailing service is permissible but the cars used in the service must be properly registered, said Mr Sanit Promwong, director-general of Land Transport Department, on Monday.

He asked traditional taxi drivers to refrain from taking the law into their own hands by harassing drivers of Uber or GrabCar ride hailing service, but to report to officials of the Land Transport Department of taxies suspected of operating without permission so that an investigation can be conducted and punishment meted out accordingly.

Noting that there is no law pertaining to ride hailing service for the time being, Mr Sanit said the department had set up a panel to study the possibility of introducing ride hailing application with the transport system. The study, he added, will take 4-5 months.

The Land Transport Department chief, however, made it clear that the department was ready to support new taxi service as another option for the public and for the benefit of the public in general.

 

Source: http://englishnews.thaipbs.or.th/ride-hailing-taxi-service-ok-cars-must-properly-registered/

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I expect if central group buy grab this will put an end to this nonsense

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43 minutes ago, hyku1147 said:

For 200 baht (albeit an inflated price) a red truck will take you from the bus station to your hotel; however, if you have time - you can just walk until you can hail a regular red truck for 30 baht.

My point is they would still charge 200 Baht if your hotel was across the street from the bus station instead of telling you where it is. For the same price you can cross Bangkok in a taxi. It is a mafia run rip off. 200 Baht compared to 30 Baht for almost the same service. Hua Hin is on my list of places to avoid because of this. 

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