RichardColeman Posted October 5, 2018 Share Posted October 5, 2018 Don;t think the problem is rounding them up and deporting them - the problem i the porous borders and unfit immigration letting them all back in Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ctkong Posted October 5, 2018 Share Posted October 5, 2018 7 hours ago, vinegarbase said: Now if our home countries can start rounding up and sending back all the Thai illegals to replace the foreign illegals they are deporting their Thai heaven will be complete! I am glad these things are happening in Asian countries because when foreigners come here and see how strict and unwanted they are in Asian countries it contributes as a result to more people becoming nationalist when they return to their own countries. We need more nationalists back home! The ones in power in your home country can’t be bothered by the slights you experienced in other countries... they are all after quality tourists... Money talks everywhere. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jimmynewbie Posted October 5, 2018 Share Posted October 5, 2018 7 hours ago, humbug said: Yep there you go the shows just about to be increased to the unfair elections, so all their racist fans in the middle class; can cheer with joy, and enjoy the media frenzy of foreigners being kicked out. Finally somebody else can see all these daily 'Big Joke' tales of arrests are nothing but propaganda! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CharlieH Posted October 5, 2018 Share Posted October 5, 2018 Reported and off topic post renoved. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JCauto Posted October 5, 2018 Share Posted October 5, 2018 9 hours ago, vinegarbase said: Now if our home countries can start rounding up and sending back all the Thai illegals to replace the foreign illegals they are deporting their Thai heaven will be complete! I am glad these things are happening in Asian countries because when foreigners come here and see how strict and unwanted they are in Asian countries it contributes as a result to more people becoming nationalist when they return to their own countries. We need more nationalists back home! Erm...so you're under the impression that there are a lot of Thai illegals working somewhere? Where is that? According to the statistics, there are 3 countries who provide by far the most remittances to Thailand: #1 Saudi Arabia, #2 India, #3 Mexico and #4 Spain. Now, #1 makes sense, there's lots of labourers in Saudi from Isarn and the South. Are they illegal? Do you have an interest in Saudi nationalism? India? Sounds a lot like locals who have immigrated from India and managed to acquire Thai citizenship. Mexico? Sounds like money-laundering unless there's some large Thai presence there that I'm completely unaware of. Spain? Sounds like seasonal work in the ag sector and highly unlikely to be illegals. So not sure about your point, which ultimately seems to be "I'm a nationalist and I think everyone else should be one too!"https://tradingeconomics.com/thailand/remittances Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cyberfarang Posted October 5, 2018 Share Posted October 5, 2018 2 hours ago, JCauto said: Erm...so you're under the impression that there are a lot of Thai illegals working somewhere? Where is that? According to the statistics, there are 3 countries who provide by far the most remittances to Thailand: #1 Saudi Arabia, #2 India, #3 Mexico and #4 Spain. Now, #1 makes sense, there's lots of labourers in Saudi from Isarn and the South. Are they illegal? Do you have an interest in Saudi nationalism? India? Sounds a lot like locals who have immigrated from India and managed to acquire Thai citizenship. Mexico? Sounds like money-laundering unless there's some large Thai presence there that I'm completely unaware of. Spain? Sounds like seasonal work in the ag sector and highly unlikely to be illegals. So not sure about your point, which ultimately seems to be "I'm a nationalist and I think everyone else should be one too!"https://tradingeconomics.com/thailand/remittances I met my Thai wife in London back in the mid 1980s. Today, I doubt there are many, if any, Thais working illegally in Britain, but I can tell you that back in the 1980s, thousands of Thais entered Britain on education visas and then marriages of convenience where arranged for them. This means that there are thousands of Thais living in Britain today that should not be there. But the British government back then as is today, consider illegal immigrants as very low priority. This is why I believe in the immigration policies of the Thai government that are trying to nip this problem in the bud now before it becomes uncontrolled as what`s happened in Britain. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JCauto Posted October 5, 2018 Share Posted October 5, 2018 3 minutes ago, cyberfarang said: I met my Thai wife in London back in the mid 1980s. Today, I doubt there are many, if any, Thais working illegally in Britain, but I can tell you that back in the 1980s, thousands of Thais entered Britain on education visas and then marriages of convenience where arranged for them. This means that there are thousands of Thais living in Britain today that should not be there. But the British government back then as is today, consider illegal immigrants as very low priority. This is why I believe in the immigration policies of the Thai government that are trying to nip this problem in the bud now before it becomes uncontrolled as what`s happened in Britain. I don't think that there's any correlation between the two situations at all. No Thai government has ever invited or wanted a lot of foreign people working in Thailand without visas, but government employees no doubt have often found it profitable to look the other way. When you see the "law" being applied in Thailand, that only means one thing - the ones applying it are doing so in order to punish people who are paying someone other than them off. When you discuss illegal immigration in the UK, I presume your concern is primarily those in blue collar jobs. In Thailand, the concern is the lack of blue collar workers willing to work for less money than minimum wage, and hence there's a strong demand for workers from neighbouring countries to fill that need. They're not at all concerned about this. I also find it hard to believe that there was a need for "arranged" marriages for Thai women who were in the UK. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
moe666 Posted October 5, 2018 Share Posted October 5, 2018 11 hours ago, sanemax said: I quite often see non Thais working in retail , restaurants , suit makers , and shops . Many have a family and business here and have been here for years . Quite a few are the business owners , restaurant and tailor shop owners , these guys must be quite concerned . No they ar Thai if family here long time. My tailor and his family own a hotel as well as other businesses. The people who own Nana Plaza are Thai- Indian Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Time Traveller Posted October 5, 2018 Share Posted October 5, 2018 13 hours ago, ezzra said: The big purge is upon us people and whoever is illegally staying in Thailand using all kind of shortcuts and dubious visas are on the radar now, for how long? no one knows, the people in the know are saying that not for long that's for sure, so hide if you can until the noise subsides and thing will go back to normal... Actually it's not just "illegal" foreigners. Big Joke was quoted on a TV article this week, that he was coming after ALL foreigners, not just the illegals or criminals. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
moontang Posted October 5, 2018 Share Posted October 5, 2018 13 hours ago, simon43 said: Foreign chefs can get work permits, not a prohibited profession... So can Ivan the English Teacher, but reality is somewhat different. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The manic Posted October 5, 2018 Share Posted October 5, 2018 15 hours ago, sanemax said: I quite often see non Thais working in retail , restaurants , suit makers , and shops . Many have a family and business here and have been here for years . Quite a few are the business owners , restaurant and tailor shop owners , these guys must be quite concerned . They are Thai citizens if you are referring to Indians. They are major players in Thailand going back over a century. Indian Thais have wealth, influence ,power, land etcetc. The Nana area is named after an Indian with important historical connections. The people you refer to, if established Thai citizens, have nothing to worried about. The Arab street traders..good riddance, the many Rohinga...I feel sorry for them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zzaa09 Posted October 5, 2018 Share Posted October 5, 2018 3 hours ago, Time Traveller said: Actually it's not just "illegal" foreigners. Big Joke was quoted on a TV article this week, that he was coming after ALL foreigners, not just the illegals or criminals. The crux is that this rounding up activity is just passing fancy. Kinship to such trendy policies and enforcement that we witness every couple months, in one regard or another. Every now and again, the authorities make a splash and go through the motions. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The manic Posted October 5, 2018 Share Posted October 5, 2018 15 hours ago, sanemax said: Its nothing to do with "racism" or "class" . Its about imposing the rule of law Depends on the law and the rules. Anyway; In a country where a lawless elite plunder and hoard the wealth of the nation and deny the population democratic representation the rule of law becomes weakened because the rulers are not accountable to the law. Selective justice is not justice. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kannot Posted October 5, 2018 Share Posted October 5, 2018 16 hours ago, NCC1701A said: I left the USA because I was paranoid about black helicopters and look what is happening now. Ive heard some folks like a black chopper!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zzaa09 Posted October 5, 2018 Share Posted October 5, 2018 36 minutes ago, The manic said: Depends on the law and the rules. Anyway; In a country where a lawless elite plunder and hoard the wealth of the nation and deny the population democratic representation the rule of law becomes weakened because the rulers are not accountable to the law. Selective justice is not justice. Not many would disagree. Yet, these blatant hypocritical contradictions have been a way of life for Thailand and it's usual ruling classes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nyezhov Posted October 6, 2018 Share Posted October 6, 2018 2 hours ago, The manic said: he Arab street traders..good riddance, Or the annoying ones in MBK Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
akirasan Posted October 6, 2018 Share Posted October 6, 2018 19 hours ago, sanemax said: Its nothing to do with "racism" or "class" . Its about imposing the rule of law There are no laws in Thailand, only guidelines Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sanemax Posted October 6, 2018 Share Posted October 6, 2018 11 minutes ago, akirasan said: There are no laws in Thailand, only guidelines Try reading the Thai book of Thai laws Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vacuum Posted October 6, 2018 Share Posted October 6, 2018 3 hours ago, The manic said: In a country where a lawless elite plunder and hoard the wealth of the nation ....and when the going get tough, they flee the country. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lanista Posted October 6, 2018 Share Posted October 6, 2018 19 hours ago, NCC1701A said: I left the USA because I was paranoid about black helicopters and look what is happening now. I thought it was white helicopters and men in black suits with dark shades or biege trousers and black polo shirts with a 3 letter acronym. lol. These huge raids will have an effect because the third worlders wont come here if theyre going to be busted and thrown in the IDC by a highly motivated crimebuster who appears to frown on bribes. Wait and see how long the raids last.If they fizzle out the mumbo jumbos will be back asap. TIT Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oziex1 Posted October 6, 2018 Share Posted October 6, 2018 So they bust a bunch of petty crooks, they will be replaced by more of the same. The real crooks remain untouchable, but don't they always. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lanista Posted October 6, 2018 Share Posted October 6, 2018 Indians are Thai citizens not foreigners. If you watch the ceremonies on TV you will see Indians donating millions of baht to the royal family as do alot of rich Chinese Thais. The Africans are mostly a menace although there are some good English and maths teachers here. The majority spoil it for the minority which is the reverse in the west. I remember back in Australia in the 80's and 90's Aust immigration officials and Feds rounding up hookers in random raids on Sydney and Melbourne brothels and agencies. Most were Thais and Filipinos and all got a free ticket home courtesy of the taxpayer.Hookers would find it more risky going there now as bogus students or wives. Probably Russians or CIS hookers dominate in OZ nowdays. Goodluck to Big Joke but he's going to be making alot of enemies with his own ilk. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
holy cow cm Posted October 6, 2018 Share Posted October 6, 2018 22 hours ago, NCC1701A said: I left the USA because I was paranoid about black helicopters and look what is happening now. so you were in the mountains Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
radiochaser Posted October 6, 2018 Share Posted October 6, 2018 23 hours ago, humbug said: funny for some, not so funny for other foreigners being guillotened by the racist middle-class, but heicopters, now you've just reminded me of these dinosaur generals; ordering thousands of people to been thrown out of helicopters in burning oil drums,during the 1970's. dont know about black color but maybe a shade of green Where were people thrown out of helicopters in burning oil drums? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
toofarnorth Posted October 7, 2018 Share Posted October 7, 2018 On Friday, October 05, 2018 at 12:50 PM, khwaibah said: Fantastic advert for Burger King. I think you are having a 'king joke. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LOSFarang Posted October 7, 2018 Share Posted October 7, 2018 On 10/5/2018 at 8:43 AM, JCauto said: Erm...so you're under the impression that there are a lot of Thai illegals working somewhere? Where is that? According to the statistics, there are 3 countries who provide by far the most remittances to Thailand: #1 Saudi Arabia, #2 India, #3 Mexico and #4 Spain. Now, #1 makes sense, there's lots of labourers in Saudi from Isarn and the South. Are they illegal? Do you have an interest in Saudi nationalism? India? Sounds a lot like locals who have immigrated from India and managed to acquire Thai citizenship. Mexico? Sounds like money-laundering unless there's some large Thai presence there that I'm completely unaware of. Spain? Sounds like seasonal work in the ag sector and highly unlikely to be illegals. So not sure about your point, which ultimately seems to be "I'm a nationalist and I think everyone else should be one too!"https://tradingeconomics.com/thailand/remittances How about the USA. There's more Thais living in the city of Los Angeles than ANYWHERE else outside of Asia. I thought everybody knew about Thai Town there. I find it strange that you would not mention the U.S. or think of that before Saudi Arabia lol. Remittance is not relevant at all to the point he was making. That's any form of money going back and forth. You even sort of acknowledged this when you stated the ones sending that money are less likely to be illegals. You could have 10 very wealthy Thai people involved in oil companies in Saudi Arabia sending more money between the two countries than 1,000 Thai restaurants in the U.S. That money coming out of Saudi Arabia does not mean that the hundreds of thousands of Thai people living in the USA don't exist. It's not relevant. "More than 100,000 undocumented Thais are believed to be living in the US." http://www.nationmultimedia.com/news/national/30306972 Also, I think he was arguing against nationalism, not for it. He was being sarcastic. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
observer90210 Posted October 7, 2018 Share Posted October 7, 2018 On 10/5/2018 at 7:54 AM, vinegarbase said: Now if our home countries can start rounding up and sending back all the Thai illegals to replace the foreign illegals they are deporting their Thai heaven will be complete! I am glad these things are happening in Asian countries because when foreigners come here and see how strict and unwanted they are in Asian countries it contributes as a result to more people becoming nationalist when they return to their own countries. We need more nationalists back home! I remember that chap back in the 1930ies, with a strange square shaped moustache below his nose, I think some place in Germany ...who seemed to have the same speech as you !!?...or am I mistaken ? ???? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tideout Posted October 7, 2018 Share Posted October 7, 2018 Just curious, What's the significance of the Huai Khwang district to this story? Lot's of lower paid work or specific immigrant communities? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Denim Posted October 7, 2018 Share Posted October 7, 2018 At the time of writing it is 10 pm and there is someone outside knocking on the door. I will post until dragged away screaming. The privacy of my home has been trampled and I fear false arrest ! ..... .... Panic over. Just the brother in law knocking to see if I have any Lao Khao left. Was very mildly worried for a few seconds there.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LOSFarang Posted October 7, 2018 Share Posted October 7, 2018 15 hours ago, vinegarbase said: No, I was not being sarcastic. I am a proud nationalist. I have no problem putting my country, my culture, and my family above the interests of foreigners. Please don't take this to mean I don't like foreigners either, it's about priority. Seeing that link, I sure hope that Trump can start cracking down hard on all the Thai illegals to give them a taste of their own medicine. Need more people to start reporting them to ICE. I assumed sarcasm because otherwise you'd have to be very confused to actually be a foreigner in another country and a nationalist. LOL What The F... "So being out in the world taking money from foreign countries isn't nationalist?" This is what I call Uncle Tom Nationalism. I just coined that term. Don't try to take credit for that phrase, but that's what I'm calling this. This thing of yours. Also, I hope Trump and Ice don't catch any of them. As an American I welcome all Thai people in my country, illegal or not. I love them all. Americans, and American whites like myself, I could do without. Reason I left. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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