snoop1130 Posted October 5, 2018 Share Posted October 5, 2018 S Korean fleeced by Chiang Mai bar gets a refund By Thanakorn Wongnang The Nation A karaoke bar in Chiang Mai province on Friday refunded a South Korean customer Bt120,000 after having billed him Bt160,000 for a few hours of service on Tuesday. Jeong Geunbok, 46, agreed to withdraw his police complaint against the Forever karaoke bar after its manager Chaiwat Songchaiwan, 35, showed up at police station and returned the money. Friday’s negotiations at the police station were the second after Jeong filed the complaint on Thursday, accusing the bar of overcharging him. The first negotiation resulted in the bar operator refunding the Korean Bt60,000. However the Korean was not happy with the refund so he sought police help to set up a second meeting. Chaiwat then returned another Bt60,000. Pol Lt-Colonel Pornpichit Rungrueng, the deputy Chiang Mai police chief, said although the case between Jeong and Chaiwat had been settled police would fine Chaiwat for operating an entertainment venue without a permit. The Korean told police that a tuk-tuk took him to the bar on Charoenprathet Road on Tuesday night. He was greeted by many girls who ordered several rounds of drinks. He drank heavily and continued to drink until the bar closed. He said he was shocked when he was billed a total of Bt160,000. He did not have enough money so a waiter forced him to pay with his credit card. On learning about the incident, his Thai friends suggested he contact the South Korean Embassy in Bangkok and alert police. It has been reported that some karaoke bars in Chiang Mai have hired tuk-tuk drivers to deliver foreigners to the venues, with the bars then overcharging them. When customers complain to police about being cheated, the bars reportedly return the money. Jeoung’s complaint resulted in police raiding the Valentine karaoke bar on the same road. When police arrived, the venue appeared to be closed but police found operations continuing from the back. Police took Thanaporn Thaweelarp, 43, the manager and some waiters working at the time of the raid for further questioning to the police station. On checking the documents, police found that though the bar had a licence to sell alcohol, it did not have a permit to operate an entertainment venue. Source: http://www.nationmultimedia.com/detail/breakingnews/30355897 -- © Copyright The Nation 2018-10-5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darcula Posted October 5, 2018 Share Posted October 5, 2018 A jetski style settlement. And a 40,000 baht lesson learnt. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Justgrazing Posted October 5, 2018 Share Posted October 5, 2018 " I didn't even get one bunk up out of it " .. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mickmouse1 Posted October 6, 2018 Share Posted October 6, 2018 Disgraceful, the entire sum should have been refunded. The police should not negotiate with illegally operating business but compel them to settle a full refund and compensation for cheating and causing great inconvenience not to.mention the damage caused to the image of Chiang Mai Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
baansgr Posted October 6, 2018 Share Posted October 6, 2018 160,000 minus 120,000 equals 0....interesting. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crazykopite Posted October 6, 2018 Share Posted October 6, 2018 He should have had all his money returned and the police should have closed the bar down if it had of been a farang bar it would of been closed indefinitely until big money had changed hands. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jesimps Posted October 6, 2018 Share Posted October 6, 2018 Another bullet point to add to my long list of reasons never to visit Chiang Mai again. Why does any farang choose to settle in that grithole of a place? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thailand Posted October 6, 2018 Share Posted October 6, 2018 5 minutes ago, jesimps said: Another bullet point to add to my long list of reasons never to visit Chiang Mai again. Why does any farang choose to settle in that grithole of a place? Doubt if any tears will be shed over your absence. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bundooman Posted October 6, 2018 Share Posted October 6, 2018 1 hour ago, Mickmouse1 said: Disgraceful, the entire sum should have been refunded. The police should not negotiate with illegally operating business but compel them to settle a full refund and compensation for cheating and causing great inconvenience not to.mention the damage caused to the image of Chiang Mai But of course, you know you are just daydreaming, don't you? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BarnicaleBob Posted October 6, 2018 Share Posted October 6, 2018 Time to report this to Big Joke, he will come here and shut them down. Maybe Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1337markus Posted October 6, 2018 Share Posted October 6, 2018 57 minutes ago, baansgr said: 160,000 minus 120,000 equals 0....interesting. Thai teacher says 280,000 baht ???? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
khunpa Posted October 6, 2018 Share Posted October 6, 2018 51 minutes ago, jesimps said: Another bullet point to add to my long list of reasons never to visit Chiang Mai again. Why does any farang choose to settle in that grithole of a place? I think for us who can live without the daily need for deep “What your name, Hansum man?” conversations with bargirls, CM is actually a great place. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bipper Posted October 6, 2018 Share Posted October 6, 2018 44 minutes ago, jesimps said: Another bullet point to add to my long list of reasons never to visit Chiang Mai again. Why does any farang choose to settle in that grithole of a place? Probably because of the traffic being miniscule compared to Bkk and the fact that it's got everything that city has. Its cheaper to live, rent, eat, drink. Oh and not every foreigner goes to Karaoke holes in CM nor even drinks on Loy Khro road even though it's there if you want it. Friendly people the right places dont Rio you off. Another thing the climates better we're just heading into our coveted winter season its probably 20c outside now, some cloud no rain. So my question is if you avoid such holes as posted why would you live anywhere else in Thailand? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Just1Voice Posted October 6, 2018 Share Posted October 6, 2018 53 minutes ago, jesimps said: Another bullet point to add to my long list of reasons never to visit Chiang Mai again. Why does any farang choose to settle in that grithole of a place? If you use this as a reason not to live in CM, and apply it equally, then there is no city in Thailand where you can live. This kind of thing happens all over Thailand, and is rampant in the bigger tourist cities. I've been happily married and living here for 10 years, and know quite a few others who have been here longer than me. And, overwhelmingly, none of us can think of any other city in Thailand where we would rather live. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
orang37 Posted October 6, 2018 Share Posted October 6, 2018 The lack of understanding, and empathy, shown here for the police, and the staff of the karaoke bar ... for their trauma, humiliation, etc., which will undoubtedly require medical and/or psychiatric services in future ... is: appalling. 40,000 baht for services un-rendered is a pittance compared to the probable negative effects on these gracious entertainment providers, and the valiant police. ~o:37; Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bristolgeoff Posted October 6, 2018 Share Posted October 6, 2018 I would probably be able to guess where in cnx the bar is.anyone who knows Thailand or visit Thailand knows to avoid these kinds of bars.it happens often they will not be the last Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kcpattaya Posted October 6, 2018 Share Posted October 6, 2018 Way to GO Thailand!!!Let's simply continue to rip-off tourists! I am sure the karaoke Bar owner serves the local authorities very well with tea- and coffee-money. Otherwise places like this should NOT be allowed to operate 1 more single day and closed forever. But, who cares.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mok199 Posted October 6, 2018 Share Posted October 6, 2018 Ya 'all come back real soon ..ya hear....Dis graceful ,shamless Thais and their petty cons Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dukeleto Posted October 6, 2018 Share Posted October 6, 2018 1 hour ago, jesimps said: Another bullet point to add to my long list of reasons never to visit Chiang Mai again. Why does any farang choose to settle in that grithole of a place? Thats easy to answer...they met a cash siphon thats from there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
car720 Posted October 6, 2018 Share Posted October 6, 2018 1 hour ago, jesimps said: Another bullet point to add to my long list of reasons never to visit Chiang Mai again. Why does any farang choose to settle in that grithole of a place? Ah but it used to be a beautiful place. It has taken this long for the tail that wags the dog to arrive. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vacuum Posted October 6, 2018 Share Posted October 6, 2018 1 hour ago, jesimps said: Another bullet point to add to my long list of reasons never to visit Chiang Mai again. Why does any farang choose to settle in that grithole of a place? It's just idiot tourists, that visit these places. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cricky Posted October 6, 2018 Share Posted October 6, 2018 Did the bar owner get charged with theft. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bipper Posted October 6, 2018 Share Posted October 6, 2018 19 minutes ago, Wallander4 said: Chiang Mai - infamous for their Karaoke scams and worst Immigration on the Planet … s-hole As for CM immigration I've been on a retirement for 10 years and I can categorically state no problem ever!!! I've never been asked for anything other than the correct documents and the correct fee. My experience confirms if you are intelligent with immigration provide the correct paperwork they are no problem... Anywhere. Or maybe my intelligent friends and I are just lucky ???? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Just1Voice Posted October 6, 2018 Share Posted October 6, 2018 8 minutes ago, bipper said: As for CM immigration I've been on a retirement for 10 years and I can categorically state no problem ever!!! I've never been asked for anything other than the correct documents and the correct fee. My experience confirms if you are intelligent with immigration provide the correct paperwork they are no problem... Anywhere. Or maybe my intelligent friends and I are just lucky ???? I must be one of your intelligent friends, as in my 10 years here on a Retirement Visa, I've never had a single problem with CM Immigration. I've always found them to be friendly and helpful. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
klauskunkel Posted October 6, 2018 Share Posted October 6, 2018 14 hours ago, snoop1130 said: police would fine Chaiwat for operating an entertainment venue without a permit. Of course they will fine the bar owner, they know he has still 40,000 baht extra. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hawksway Posted October 6, 2018 Share Posted October 6, 2018 The lesson - pay for drinks as you go! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thailand Posted October 6, 2018 Share Posted October 6, 2018 56 minutes ago, SpeakeasyThai said: Sigh.....predictable ignorant CM expat post. Sorry if I upset your buddy. But then I lived up to your expectations, on the other hand -----. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bipper Posted October 6, 2018 Share Posted October 6, 2018 28 minutes ago, Just1Voice said: I must be one of your intelligent friends, as in my 10 years here on a Retirement Visa, I've never had a single problem with CM Immigration. I've always found them to be friendly and helpful. Lol! We're not friends but we could be....thanks for the feedback. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TSF Posted October 6, 2018 Share Posted October 6, 2018 Sounds like a very green sort of guy to just roll up at a bar and sit at a table full of bargals buying drinks for them all and drinking heavily himself without giving any thought to the bill that must be paid at the end of it all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fakename Posted October 6, 2018 Share Posted October 6, 2018 Not so expensive, only a thousand dollars! I usually always spend that much every night! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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