kannot Posted October 6, 2018 Share Posted October 6, 2018 14 minutes ago, FritsSikkink said: Yes it is possible but not enjoyable, 3 meals for 120 THB isn't very good food if you have to eat it every day. In Thailand its incredibly easy to grow your own vegetables from seed to vegetable in a just 4- 5 weeks, speed of growth is astounding, pack of seeds and water costs nothing can be done off a balcony. Something I see often is the Thais buying those mixed crushed ice drinks all around 30 baht..............whats wrong with water, even my wife finds it shocking young kids wasting 3o baht like that, she had two jobs and was the only one of 10 who didnt borrow money, had 200k savings when I met her and had to fight off the others trying to borrow, shared a room in BKK with 5 others, didnt have her own flat till she was 28 yrs old stuck soles on shoes and sold credit cards in the evenings as well as going to UNI. Came from Issan and her drive was "didnt want to be poor" as when she was a kid she had a tough time with 10 other siblings and no money. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OneMoreFarang Posted October 6, 2018 Share Posted October 6, 2018 26 minutes ago, kannot said: Most of them dont know what hard work actually is any more, you scrimp and save and fight your way up over many years working long hours Really? I talk often enough with "normal" working people, i.e. staff in shops, restaurants, 7/11, etc. who work for less than 15k per month. Many of them work for more than 8 hours a day in their official work, many of them use public transport, often more than 2 hours a day to come and return from work. And then they take care of their kids and/or parents and do whatever else has to be done. Is that "hard work" enough? I certainly think so. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EVENKEEL Posted October 6, 2018 Share Posted October 6, 2018 She knew what a teacher's salary was when she choose that field. Should have gone into a different line of work. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kannot Posted October 6, 2018 Share Posted October 6, 2018 7 minutes ago, OneMoreFarang said: Really? I talk often enough with "normal" working people, i.e. staff in shops, restaurants, 7/11, etc. who work for less than 15k per month. Many of them work for more than 8 hours a day in their official work, many of them use public transport, often more than 2 hours a day to come and return from work. And then they take care of their kids and/or parents and do whatever else has to be done. Is that "hard work" enough? I certainly think so. yeah and half the day on the phone they cant afford working at half the speed of others, time and motion studies would have a field day, no it isnt enough, 8 hours at work....thats part time when youre trying to build up capital for your later years. 7-11 staff..........sheesh yeah that a crippler of a job, spend more time chatting amongst themselves than working Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OneMoreFarang Posted October 6, 2018 Share Posted October 6, 2018 2 minutes ago, EVENKEEL said: She knew what a teacher's salary was when she choose that field. Should have gone into a different line of work. That reminds me of the pretty accountant who I met when she worked in a Soi Cowboy bar. As accountant she made 16,000B a month. She had a son and wanted to send him to a reasonable school. That was not possible working as an accountant... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rc2702 Posted October 6, 2018 Share Posted October 6, 2018 15k Thai style room in apartment complex. 2k 100 baht a day food allowance 3k Petrol for bike 20 baht a day 600 Support for kids x 2 maybe 1k a month Support for house build 2k a month Support idle father 1k a month Total 9600 It's rough but it could be done with just the basics. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OneMoreFarang Posted October 6, 2018 Share Posted October 6, 2018 16 minutes ago, kannot said: In Thailand its incredibly easy to grow your own vegetables from seed to vegetable in a just 4- 5 weeks, speed of growth is astounding, pack of seeds and water costs nothing can be done off a balcony. Something I see often is the Thais buying those mixed crushed ice drinks all around 30 baht..............whats wrong with water, even my wife finds it shocking young kids wasting 3o baht like that, she had two jobs and was the only one of 10 who didnt borrow money, had 200k savings when I met her and had to fight off the others trying to borrow, shared a room in BKK with 5 others, didnt have her own flat till she was 28 yrs old stuck soles on shoes and sold credit cards in the evenings as well as going to UNI. I think a teacher should be able to afford the "luxury" of a 30B drink a day - every day. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kannot Posted October 6, 2018 Share Posted October 6, 2018 5 minutes ago, OneMoreFarang said: That reminds me of the pretty accountant who I met when she worked in a Soi Cowboy bar. As accountant she made 16,000B a month. She had a son and wanted to send him to a reasonable school. That was not possible working as an accountant... My Mother had a full time day job in a hospital and at nights to send me to a private school worked in a hotel behind the bar from 6 till gone 12 midnight 6 miles away for many years, nothing comes easy in life. I had part time jobs from aged 10 upwards and all thru school, cleared snow off peoples drives in winter for a £, walked to school when others went on the bus ( and were always late) cycled from home to Saturday job 8 miles away, worked in Safeway supermarket 6 am till 10pm on Saturdays at 16, you CAN do it when you are young to make older age more comfortable. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kannot Posted October 6, 2018 Share Posted October 6, 2018 Just now, Rc2702 said: 15k Thai style room in apartment complex. 2k 100 baht a day food allowance 3k Petrol for bike 20 baht a day 600 Support for kids x 2 maybe 1k a month Support for house build 2k a month Support idle father 1k a month Total 9600 It's rough but it could be done with just the basics. The word Thais ( and many these days worldwide) dont understand though is "basics" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob12345 Posted October 6, 2018 Share Posted October 6, 2018 4 hours ago, rooster59 said: She has posed the question to Thai society: You tell me how teachers can live on 15,000 baht without falling into debt? Do as all teacher do: suck at your daytime job and then offer to tutor all your students falling behind for extra money. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kannot Posted October 6, 2018 Share Posted October 6, 2018 2 minutes ago, OneMoreFarang said: I think a teacher should be able to afford the "luxury" of a 30B drink a day - every day. I dont. Its about saving money making do to improve your future. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vacuum Posted October 6, 2018 Share Posted October 6, 2018 2 hours ago, FritsSikkink said: My 6 year old gets 1860 ++ and my 13 year old gets 4030 ++ per month. I presume these are school fees. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A1Str8 Posted October 6, 2018 Share Posted October 6, 2018 Nobody expects you to stay out of debt, mami. That's the name of the game. Put people in debt and you shall have control over them. Not that this nonsense will last long. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kannot Posted October 6, 2018 Share Posted October 6, 2018 8 minutes ago, Rc2702 said: 15k Thai style room in apartment complex. 2k 100 baht a day food allowance 3k Petrol for bike 20 baht a day 600 Support for kids x 2 maybe 1k a month Support for house build 2k a month Support idle father 1k a month Total 9600 It's rough but it could be done with just the basics. And rooms like that with shared bathrooms are available on Sukhumvit road close to On Nut as the security guard at my Wifes condo does just that. No aircon shared bath 2k BKK Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
atyclb Posted October 6, 2018 Share Posted October 6, 2018 4 hours ago, rooster59 said: Teacher with 15,000 baht salary asks: You tell me how I can live on that? another thaifriendly candidate teacher seeking handsum farang for love and debt assistance Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rc2702 Posted October 6, 2018 Share Posted October 6, 2018 Just now, atyclb said: another thaifriendly candidate teacher seeking handsum farang for love and debt assistance It could be the solution. Do teachers and their families get free medical care? If so marry a farang who needs such assistance. Win win. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Number 6 Posted October 6, 2018 Share Posted October 6, 2018 It looks like she's on holiday yes? Yeah, it's obviously way too low but in ftw my wife makes 21. Raise of 1500 a year over 30 years plus she can advance grades and do grad work and other stuff. Typical entitled millennial. If she's a govt worker, life sucks but sweet pension at 60. Her decision. She can freelance at a number of public schools and make far more. Finally, I've personally seen and spoken with an agency at Chulalongkorn that was hiring grads to work upcountry for up to 33k. Perhaps her subject exam sucked and she's stuck in a horrible school. Again, up to her. Looks pretty, she can forward her resume we have openings. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FritsSikkink Posted October 6, 2018 Share Posted October 6, 2018 36 minutes ago, Vacuum said: I presume these are school fees. No, spending money. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lacessit Posted October 6, 2018 Share Posted October 6, 2018 54 minutes ago, OneMoreFarang said: That reminds me of the pretty accountant who I met when she worked in a Soi Cowboy bar. As accountant she made 16,000B a month. She had a son and wanted to send him to a reasonable school. That was not possible working as an accountant... You believed her when she told you she was an accountant? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lupatria Posted October 6, 2018 Share Posted October 6, 2018 Suffering from life on a meager salary? Ask a cop or 'official' near you how to survive... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lacessit Posted October 6, 2018 Share Posted October 6, 2018 3 hours ago, FritsSikkink said: My 6 year old gets 1860 ++ and my 13 year old gets 4030 ++ per month. Sounds like a good way to make a rod for your own back. How much do you think they'll be looking for at age 20? I was taught by my parents if I wanted something, I had to earn it for myself. Which I did - my first bicycle, golf clubs and car. You are teaching your children entitlement. IMHO that will come back to bite you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EVENKEEL Posted October 6, 2018 Share Posted October 6, 2018 1 minute ago, Lacessit said: Sounds like a good way to make a rod for your own back. How much do you think they'll be looking for at age 20? I was taught by my parents if I wanted something, I had to earn it for myself. Which I did - my first bicycle, golf clubs and car. You are teaching your children entitlement. IMHO that will come back to bite you. And is that how you treated your children? Just asking......Kids having after school jobs here isn't something I'm used to. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BritManToo Posted October 6, 2018 Share Posted October 6, 2018 5 hours ago, rooster59 said: She had been an assistant teacher for two years but was then made up to a full teacher. She gets 15,000 but has to pay off her student loan and try to find enough for daily expenses. Shouldn't she have considered the pay before she chose the university course? Or is planning ahead not done by potential teachers? Anyway, pretty girl, she could always get married. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xylophone Posted October 6, 2018 Share Posted October 6, 2018 2 minutes ago, EVENKEEL said: And is that how you treated your children? Just asking......Kids having after school jobs here isn't something I'm used to. Like Lacessit said in his post, but I wasn't taught not to ask because they were dirt poor so had no money to give......so I had a paper round before school, getting up at 6 am to do it before cycling about 3 miles to school. Also mowed a few lawns and even went potato picking in order to get some pocket money. Having to earn money made me realise the value of it. good lessons IMO. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kannot Posted October 6, 2018 Share Posted October 6, 2018 22 minutes ago, Lacessit said: You believed her when she told you she was an accountant? it doesnt "add up" does it???? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
phutoie2 Posted October 6, 2018 Share Posted October 6, 2018 18 minutes ago, Lacessit said: You believed her when she told you she was an accountant? Why not?, accountant is just a posh word for cashier here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lacessit Posted October 6, 2018 Share Posted October 6, 2018 1 minute ago, EVENKEEL said: And is that how you treated your children? Just asking......Kids having after school jobs here isn't something I'm used to. My son had a paper round. The point is to teach children money has to be earned, although I'll admit to coming from an older generation. Admittedly after school jobs here are problematic; however, nothing prevents a parent from giving a kid money in exchange for chores around the house such as gardening or cleaning. I earned money collecting scrap metals from the local garbage dump, caddying and doing courier work on my bike. Probably could not do it now, I'd be breaching half a dozen health and safety laws, and kids caddying in Australia has died out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BritManToo Posted October 6, 2018 Share Posted October 6, 2018 1 hour ago, FritsSikkink said: 3 meals for 120 THB isn't very good food if you have to eat it every day. You could always cook your own food at home. Doubt I spend 100bht/day on food (and another 100bht on beer). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EVENKEEL Posted October 6, 2018 Share Posted October 6, 2018 5 minutes ago, xylophone said: Like Lacessit said in his post, but I wasn't taught not to ask because they were dirt poor so had no money to give......so I had a paper round before school, getting up at 6 am to do it before cycling about 3 miles to school. Also mowed a few lawns and even went potato picking in order to get some pocket money. Having to earn money made me realise the value of it. good lessons IMO. We strive for a better life for our children, sometimes our good intentions have the opposite effect. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OneMoreFarang Posted October 6, 2018 Share Posted October 6, 2018 27 minutes ago, Lacessit said: You believed her when she told you she was an accountant? Yes, I did. I ask many of the girls what they did before they worked in a bar. Sometime they worked in 7/11 or in other shops, school, etc. I think with a question like that they often tell the truth. There is not much incentive to lie. I don't ask them if they have a boyfriend or if they really think I am handsome because I wouldn't expect the truth... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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