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How about the French restaurant/bar/ beach called SUSADAY , across from the beach , left side as you go down to Ocheatal beach ?? Great food, Bruno’s a real cook, great fun hangout, hope it hasn’t gone, but don’t think so as I would have heard on the grapevine.The Chinese are ruining everything everywhere.

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17 hours ago, VBF said:

Has anyone stayed (recently) at The Beach Club Resort, on Tola Street run by a dutch lady named "Luna"?

Their website http://www.beachclubcambodia.com/ seems dead but when I stayed there in February 2013, it was great. You could see mucho development going on in that area though.

I tried to book there also.  No availability on Agoda website.  Also, some reviews on Agoda about the place were not the best, but I take a lot of them with a grain of salt.  Like, people saying "we saw a cockroach in our room."  Hardly a deal breaker for me. 

 

I will check it out for you.

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17 hours ago, geisha said:

How about the French restaurant/bar/ beach called SUSADAY , across from the beach , left side as you go down to Ocheatal beach ?? Great food, Bruno’s a real cook, great fun hangout, hope it hasn’t gone, but don’t think so as I would have heard on the grapevine.The Chinese are ruining everything everywhere.

If you Google it you will see it listed as permanently closed.  There have been no reviews on Tripadvisor for it for some months now.  It has probably been built over. 

 

If I can find any long term expats there I will ask if Bruno is still around and if he has a new restaurant somewhere. 

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17 hours ago, balo said:

Just stay away , I rather take 1 week in PP than that place. 

They are ruining it , if the Chinese suddenly run out of money it will end up like a ghost town . 

 

 

As I said, I am going.  I've already booked the flights.  It's not a holiday for me, just a quick visit.  I am only there a few days and will view the massive change for myself. 

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On 10/12/2018 at 7:32 AM, wump said:

Pub St (Golden Lion Plaza) has been dead for a long time. Or are you talking about the bar street in Victory Hill? The last time I was there that place was 80% dead but with all other girly places pretty much gone you would think that place must flourish by now? What happened to all the freelancers in Dolphin and that other beach bar?

Pub street is has been demolished. The beer bars near Golden Lion roundabout have been demolished. The bar street in Victory hill is dilapidated and filthy. Many places are boarded up or abandoned. Only a few sad bars are left with a few Chinese customers. Some small cheap shops and restaurants in that area have Chinese signs and Chinese staff.  

 

In general it is hard to find any restaurants with "Khmer Food and Western Food" signs from before. I only saw a handful. All the rest were abandoned or taken over by Chinese owners selling Chinese food to Chinese people.

 

I've been to Sihanoukeville about 15 or 20 times since 2004. Went a couple of weeks ago to see if it really was as bad as the Cambodian's were saying. The changes in the last year or so are shocking. I saw in the Phom Penh Post that there are about 40,000 Chinese there now. Workers in construction, casinos, hotels, restaurants plus tourists. That's an invasion for a place of 100,000 people. 

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KhunHeineken, had many a good night with great wine at reasonable prices in Susaday. Yes, I’m wondering where Bruno and family are, any news would be welcome. I’ll start looking myself. Last saw them two seasons ago,2016, and  all was fine then for them. 

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22 hours ago, Ketyo said:

Pub street is has been demolished. The beer bars near Golden Lion roundabout have been demolished. The bar street in Victory hill is dilapidated and filthy. Many places are boarded up or abandoned. Only a few sad bars are left with a few Chinese customers. Some small cheap shops and restaurants in that area have Chinese signs and Chinese staff.  

 

In general it is hard to find any restaurants with "Khmer Food and Western Food" signs from before. I only saw a handful. All the rest were abandoned or taken over by Chinese owners selling Chinese food to Chinese people.

 

I've been to Sihanoukeville about 15 or 20 times since 2004. Went a couple of weeks ago to see if it really was as bad as the Cambodian's were saying. The changes in the last year or so are shocking. I saw in the Phom Penh Post that there are about 40,000 Chinese there now. Workers in construction, casinos, hotels, restaurants plus tourists. That's an invasion for a place of 100,000 people. 

Thanks for your information. 

 

Can you recommend any places for a meal and any bars for a cold beer?  Sounds like a stupid question but I have been told westerners are refused entry to the majority of establishments there now. 

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21 hours ago, geisha said:

KhunHeineken, had many a good night with great wine at reasonable prices in Susaday. Yes, I’m wondering where Bruno and family are, any news would be welcome. I’ll start looking myself. Last saw them two seasons ago,2016, and  all was fine then for them. 

I have been told many Sihanoukville expats have relocated to Thailand and Vietnam, with some moving down the road to Kampot / Kep.  I'll ask around, but have been told the higher prices are now pushing out the local people as well.  It might be difficult to find anyone that has been there for a length of time. 

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On 10/14/2018 at 12:19 PM, KhunHeineken said:

I have been told many Sihanoukville expats have relocated to Thailand and Vietnam, with some moving down the road to Kampot / Kep.  I'll ask around, but have been told the higher prices are now pushing out the local people as well.  It might be difficult to find anyone that has been there for a length of time. 

most of those i knew that lived in snv moved to Kampot or Koh Kong

Unless u have wife/gf ,family kep is to dam slow

NONE went to thailand ( most started off there  )  LOL

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On 11/2/2018 at 5:00 PM, scotinsiam said:

KH - have you been yet? any news on the state of the place now?

 

Ok, so I am typing this post from Downtown Sihanoukville.  I have been here 2 days now.  WOW. WOW. WOW.  Any words I post will not describe what has become of Sihanoukville but I will try to describe my experience and back it up with photos. 

 

I have taken many photo but can mot post them all.  I will post a few general photos and a few photos of places that I and other members have mentioned in past posts.

 

Think Beijing by the sea.  Think Macau.  Think Las Vegas in Cambodia.  All of these describe what has happened here and what is continuing to happen.

 

 

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On 10/11/2018 at 5:06 PM, natway09 said:

I look forward to a full report on your return.

You will be very disappointed

I don't remember Sihanoukville very well from 6 - 7 years ago but as with most places rather than say  "you will be very disappointed", I think I'd say it'll be what you make of it.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

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53 minutes ago, watcharacters said:

I don't remember Sihanoukville very well from 6 - 7 years ago but as with most places rather than say  "you will be very disappointed", I think I'd say it'll be what you make of it.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

I agree, but I will say Sihanoukville is not an easy going laid back place now.  Traffic is terrible.  Roads are terrible.  Power blackouts are very frequent, as are water shut offs.  Of course these things are to be expected in South East Asia and they happened before here, but the frequency and duration are a lot lot worse.

 

Photos coming shortly.

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This is the first time I have uploaded photos on ThaiVisa.  I am sure other members have better cameras than me and know the website better than I o but I will try my best. 

 

There is a lot of fake things on the internet so I will post a photo of what I have seen and then try to post a photo showing a landmark to show the photo is correct or have some landmark included in the photo.

 

If I am 100% sure of my photo I will put it forward which is what I have done in this post.  If I have a slight doubt I will ask for forum input.  This place has changed so much it has become a little disorientating. 

 

Photo 1 is what has become of The Beach Road Hotel.  Probably why I couldn't book a room there.  😭

 

Photo 2 proves it's The Beach Road Hotel.  You can see the big road sign on the crest of beach Road.  The tree that covered where you parked your motorbike is still there.

 

Photo 3 is what has become of The Reef Resort.

 

Photo 4 is remnants of Utopia.  It's fenced off pending development.

 

Photo 5 is the Utopia corner.

 

Photo 6 is what became of The Led Zephyr. I liked the casual live music there.

 

Photo 7 is for the member that mentioned the motorbike hire shop on the Utopia corner.  Gone.

 

Photo 8 is where Dolphin Bar and Martini Bar and a few other were.  You can see the step you had to walk down from the Beach Road entrance. Also fenced off pending development.

 

I will read the thread again after this post because I think there were some other requests. 

 

ThaiVisa has been a great help to me for information over the years and so I am happy to give back to members and the website.  If any member has a request for a recent photo you can post here and I will try to get it.

 

Tomorrow I will post some photos of the huge casinos that have been built on long standing hotels that many on this forum would  know and will write a little of my experience. 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

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1 hour ago, watcharacters said:

I don't remember Sihanoukville very well from 6 - 7 years ago but as with most places rather than say  "you will be very disappointed", I think I'd say it'll be what you make of it.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

I was distracted and hit the post button.  I wanted to add that I will make the most of my time here.  As you suggest, to be positive about my time here.  This is not a problem for me as it's in my character to do so and I have already started to relax after doing a lot of exploring and I am now finding my way here again. 

 

I don't mind a bit of Peking duck so I will try to enjoy some Chinese influence while I am here. 

 

I must say though, Sihanoukville has become an almost impossible place for relaxing over a coffee or a beer or a meal.  First impressions on my return is it has become a bustling city. 

 

Otres Beach is still holding on but I will post photos tomorrow showing Chinese development will probably be there in a year or so as well. 

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