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On 10/10/2018 at 3:59 PM, KhunHeineken said:

Please don't post things like "don't bother going."  I have booked my air tickets and hotel, so I am going.

Okey dokey.

There's always one.

So i'll be that one.......

"don't bother going"..............😎

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Photo 1 is what was Charlie Harper bar. 

 

Photo 2 is the little alley that used to go down to the beach.  The police box is still there but no police in there now.  That whole block of land all the way to the beach front is fenced off. 

 

Photo 3 is I did sneak a photo inside the gate of Photo 2.  Big block of land right on the beach.

 

Photo 4 is what has become of Pub Street.

 

Photo 5 is what has become of the very large block of land that was flood plain across from the Golden Lions roundabout.  It used to be very green and have a few buffalo grazing in there. 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

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Photo 1 is Mick & Craig's.  Had a coffee in there yesterday.  I spoke to the manager.  All staff are looking for a new job.  Mick & Craig's will be demolished next month. 

 

As with many of the photos I have posted, you can see big construction taking place, or newly completed buildings, in the background.  Little single story eateries are now sitting on valuable land and are getting squeezed out.

 

 

 

 

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Wow some nice info and pics,it was 8 years ago when I was last there the road to the beach was just a dirt road and as you went onto beach there was loads of bars to the right offering bbq every night,utopia could be a crazy night out ,very very different place now.

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8 hours ago, taninthai said:

Wow some nice info and pics,it was 8 years ago when I was last there the road to the beach was just a dirt road and as you went onto beach there was loads of bars to the right offering bbq every night,utopia could be a crazy night out ,very very different place now.

Beach Road down to the pier has basically become a car park for the big casino hotels and small Chinese restaurants on that strip.

 

Zoom in on the Chinese writing on the signage down Beach Road. 

 

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Photo 1 is what has become of The Square.

 

Photo 2 shows it's The Square because you can still see the roof of the little building that was The Square management office.

 

Photo 3 shows The Square will become The Queenco Hotel and Casino.  You have to zoom in on the sign.  The Square is a big block of land. 

 

 

 

 

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@KhunHeineken

Thanks very much for that very detailed report on "Snooky." Sadly, this is almost the same as what happened in Patong years ago.  Comparing the old and new pictures of the respective beach roads is very similar! Oddly, when i was in "Snooky" in 2011 , I went with a mate who used to live on Phuket and remember saying to him "You wait, this will go the same way as Phuket in a few years"  I take absolutely NO pleasure in being proven correct!  And, as was said above, now the main beach has been "developed," Otres and the others will surely suffer the same fate - just as happened on Phuket - the former "Pearl of the Andaman"

 

Sad, sad, sad....once again "They've paved paradise and put up a parking lot" (Joni Mitchell)

For me, I shan't bother revisiting "Snooky" - I shall just be pleased that I went when I did.:bah:

 

Purely out of academic interest, did you investigate The Beach Club Resort, on Tola Street as we discussed earlier in this thread?

 

Thanks again for the detailed update.... :thumbsup:

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29 minutes ago, VBF said:

@KhunHeineken

Thanks very much for that very detailed report on "Snooky." Sadly, this is almost the same as what happened in Patong years ago.  Comparing the old and new pictures of the respective beach roads is very similar! Oddly, when i was in "Snooky" in 2011 , I went with a mate who used to live on Phuket and remember saying to him "You wait, this will go the same way as Phuket in a few years"  I take absolutely NO pleasure in being proven correct!  And, as was said above, now the main beach has been "developed," Otres and the others will surely suffer the same fate - just as happened on Phuket - the former "Pearl of the Andaman"

 

Sad, sad, sad....once again "They've paved paradise and put up a parking lot" (Joni Mitchell)

For me, I shan't bother revisiting "Snooky" - I shall just be pleased that I went when I did.:bah:

 

Purely out of academic interest, did you investigate The Beach Club Resort, on Tola Street as we discussed earlier in this thread?

 

Thanks again for the detailed update.... :thumbsup:

 

Photo 1 is what is happening at the old The Beach Club Resort. 

 

I have taken many photos and will be posting more in the future, as well as some of my observations, opinions, and what I have learnt, and I have learnt a lot.

 

It's not all bad here and I will post about it in the near future.

 

I understand what you say about Patong, but could you imagine if Thailand allowed casinos to be built?  There would be nothing stopping the same thing happening on prime real estate in Thailand.  

 

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6 minutes ago, KhunHeineken said:

 

Photo 1 is what is happening at the old The Beach Club Resort. 

 

I have taken many photos and will be posting more in the future, as well as some of my observations, opinions, and what I have learnt, and I have learnt a lot.

 

It's not all bad here and I will post about it in the near future.

 

I understand what you say about Patong, but could you imagine if Thailand allowed casinos to be built?  There would be nothing stopping the same thing happening on prime real estate in Thailand.  

 

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So it is - my mistake :sorry:

I take your points, but I still don't see myself revisiting either Patong or "Snooky". 

I shall continue to follow this thread anyway - get your observations and opinions and see what others think.

Cheers :thumbsup:

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On 10/12/2018 at 10:46 PM, geisha said:

How about the French restaurant/bar/ beach called SUSADAY , across from the beach , left side as you go down to Ocheatal beach ?? Great food, Bruno’s a real cook, great fun hangout, hope it hasn’t gone, but don’t think so as I would have heard on the grapevine.The Chinese are ruining everything everywhere.

I might need some assistance with this one.

 

Was Susaday on the street just before you turn left to go to Pub Street, or just after the street you turn onto to got to Pub Street?  Either way, it's not there.

 

Photo 1 is where Susaday may have been.

 

Photo 2 is the same part of the street but from a different angle.

 

Photo 3 is the opposite part of the street.

 

 

 

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34 minutes ago, phuketrichard said:

HUH:

dont recall an Chinese moving into Patong, buying up land an building casinos>>

Patong beach road has been a real road for over 40 years

Beach Road at Serendipity Beach is a dead end.  It stops at the pier. 

 

Beach Road in Patong is a through road. 

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2 hours ago, KhunHeineken said:

Beach Road at Serendipity Beach is a dead end.  It stops at the pier. 

 

Beach Road in Patong is a through road. 

Sorry (and also @phuketrichard)  I was thinking of Soi Bangla in Patong which I can remember when it was a dirt road leading to the beach road - 1985

(Imagine looking down Bangla from Rat-u-thit towards the beach)

So what I was indicating was the fact that both Patong and Snooky have effectively been ruined in much the same way by touristic over development, whether by Chinese greed or by Thai greed, sadly the result is much the same. For me, neither place is worth visiting any more - you may disagree, of course.

 

Also, most of Phuket Island has itself fallen victim to the over-development, as presumably will the other beaches in Snooky fairly soon.

Have I explained myself better this time?

 

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