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Paulinho

Leaving BKK for 6/9 months, Vietnam questions.

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Hi, 

 

Been Bangkok 10 years and need a break. Also some greenery, and a place to relax, nature, closer to nice beaches (but not an island nor a pure beach resort), close to some city ammenities, and just relax for a while in less hectic place.... 

 

I work online so need good Internet. 

 

Was considering CMB (siem reap) but decided against. 

 

Can someone advise me on VN. I haven't been for years. 

 

1. Nha Trang, houses for rent great nature, mountains, but close to city without too many tourists and great beaches. 

2. Vung Tau also mentioned but I heard a bit of just a beach resort. 

3. Hanoi - active, but greenery but not sure if too hectic. Maybe outskirts? 

 

I don't fancy Saigon as per my BKK issues. 

..... 

Visa? 

 

Possible to get a year visa easily? 

 

And I work online. That would be OK? 

 

Any further advice on places in Vietnam? Issues, thoughts? Esp. From those long term expats like me who want to leave Thailand for a while or permanently? 

 

Thanks! 

 

Paul

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2 hours ago, tutsiwarrior said:

visa arrangements depend depend on your nationality...useta be a one year visa was only available to US passport holders, last year my son who carries a UK passport got stamped in for 15 days without any visa at all but with my US passport I had to apply in the usual way online for a 30 day visa... the VN gov't online visa website will spell it all out...

 

I lived and worked in both Hanoi and HCMC and they both got the same problems with traffic congestion and etc...in Hanoi the traffic seems to get worse the further away you get from the center (old town)...overall I found Hanoi to be more pleasant than HCMC, in both places I had a kitchen and could shop and make my own food which I prefer...they got western style supermarkets as well as the usual asian fresh markets...

 

as I was working I had a temporary resident permit with all the stuff that comes with it arranged by my employer, work permit, etc...had to get a police report once from the thai police for which I received assistance from the very helpful thai embassy in Hanoi...

 

I've lived in other more remote, non tourist places like Ca Mau (a mangrove pit, part of the Mekong delta) in the extreme south and on the north central coast (very beautiful and charming, Dong Hoi is worth a visit)...my employers arranged all accommodation, transport and etc as I was there to work...sure to be different if yer on your own...facilities for westerners in the remote areas have improved quite a bit since I lived there from my observations when I visited last year...

 

if I had to leave my present arrangement in Thailand for whatever reason VN (Hanoi) would be the first place that I'd land...then maybe ooze my way down to the north central coast again...

 

 

 

Thanks for that @tutsiwarrior.

 

Yes, I have had a look on the Vietnam Immigration website. I carry a UK passport, and will get an eVisa from their immigrations services website and it looks straightforward. They have it ready when you arrive to put into your passport at the airport if you print our your eVisa. Then I will try find a good local agent who will be able to tell me the best visa for further stay. 

 

Ca Hau and Dong Hoi I hadn't heard of in my quest to find a place. I think I will fly to Hanoi then make my way down to these places. There is a long trip sleeper train which goes down the east coast alongside the sea that looks like a wonderful way to enjoy the scenery whilst stopping at these places. 

 

Not sure about the middle region. 

 

Glad to here about more ammenities. 

 

Would maybe like to work there so Hanoi could be a place to find work. I am IT. Did there seem to be an expat scene in Hanoi when you were there? I know there is a lot of Tech development in HCMC. Indeed I worked for a graphic design/animation studio to get EU/US projects for them back in 2000 odd. So much must have changed there. 

 

SO, Last time I went to HCMC was 16 years ago. And it felt hectic then so wouldn't want to leave BKK for there now. 

 

People say it has changed a lot. 

 

Thanks again for your help. 

 

P

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I call Hanoi its nickname HaNOISE. Makes Bangkok look like a peaceful quiet park. Motorbikes in HaNOISE outnumber those in Thailand by 1000 to 1. And lots of available cooked entire dogs (head to tail included) on the food carts if you are interested.  

Interesting place to visit history wise and close to Ha Long Bay, but not a good place to live for any peace and quiet types. 

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Why dont you just go some where else in Thailand. Try East Pattaya or Na Jomtien. Plenty of green spaces and close to the beach and City.

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I would not recommend Hanoi. Used to live and work there for 10 years. Too hectic, too noisy. Why don't you try Prachuap? Prachuap is my favorite place in Thailand. Has everything you are looking for: relaxing, internet, beaches,...

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27 minutes ago, jimn said:

Why dont you just go some where else in Thailand. Try East Pattaya or Na Jomtien. Plenty of green spaces and close to the beach and City.

Thanks, but lived down Jomtien for a while. Not great beaches, and Jomtien itself not very beautiful. 

 

I Ann asking about Vietnam. Thanks anyway. 

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@Araiwa,

 

Yes, think Hanoi will be hectic. 

 

Again, Vietnam is the title.

 

But thanks re. Prachuap - yes heard its quite nice. 

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3 hours ago, Wake Up said:

I call Hanoi its nickname HaNOISE. Makes Bangkok look like a peaceful quiet park. Motorbikes in HaNOISE outnumber those in Thailand by 1000 to 1. And lots of available cooked entire dogs (head to tail included) on the food carts if you are interested.  

Interesting place to visit history wise and close to Ha Long Bay, but not a good place to live for any peace and quiet types. 

 

in Hanoi I lived out in the expat ghetto in Westlake (Tay Ho) and it's leafy and peaceful out there with western restaurants and shops stocked with western food, etc...not the same closer into the center of town...

 

in HCMC I lived in District 1 and there was a perceptible low roar from the traffic that started around 0530hrs that became full volume around 0700hrs...the locals like to lean on their horns...

 

never seen no K9 BBQ in the big towns but I saw some doggies goin' to market in cages on the back of trucks in the rural areas...when the doggie trucks went past a place with dogs on the loose there was howling in spooky recognition of the fate of the caged ones...

 

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I've heard good things about Da Nang, & I understand there are direct (low cost) flights from Bangkok now.. so you could do a quick recce.

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20 minutes ago, steve73 said:

I've heard good things about Da Nang, & I understand there are direct (low cost) flights from Bangkok now.. so you could do a quick recce.

I went there last year and the building is coming on leaps and bounds.

 

I wasn't over-enamoured with it BUT was staying on the outskirts so maybe not a fair comment. HOWEVER I did find some very good western style restaurants and a little nightlife and was told it got better if one went further into the city.

 

Hoi An was close by so took a look, but over-run with tourist buses and Chinese!!!

 

I would give it another try if I was considering moving out of Thailand (also heard good things about Vung Tau)…………..and lastly, I found the Vietnamese people very polite.

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Hanoi is a big City but you can segregate yourself by sticking to the Old Quarter.

 

I spend most of the year in Vietnam. I love Nha Trang and Hue. Great internet in all of the aforementioned. Cost of living is cheap compared to Thailand. Relaxed lifestyle in all but are growing with the surge of Chinese tourists.

 

Danang has everything you want but it is a big city now with all that comes with growth.

 

Vang Tau is now full of Chinese tourists. I hate it as does my Vietnamese girlfriend.

 

Sapa is a great place up in the mountains above Hanoi. Only bus and train at this stage but they are building an airport a Lao Cai which is where the train terminates. Cold in winter but mild in Summer. You do not get the heat that you get in Hanoi.

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