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3 hours ago, spidermike007 said:

Is there an impending sense of xenophobia in the air? Has the biggest joke made it worse? Does he despise foreigners? Is there an equal effort being made to pursue Thai lawbreakers?

If you look at all the senseless closures of bars, discos, food stalls, street bars and restaurants in Sukhumvit i think that answers your question........

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On 10/25/2018 at 10:48 AM, mlmcleod said:

If by best women you mean the women who can judge you monetary worth at a glance, then yes you are right.  No young or beautiful woman is going to fall in love with a farang just for their great personalities.

 

Rule number 1:  You are just an ATM machine for the Thai woman and her entire family.

Rule number 2:  She probably has a Thai boyfriend.

Rule number 3:  Refer to rule number 1.

 

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Yeah, but as long as you stick by golden rule you're ok........ "If it flys, floats, or <deleted>........ Rent it.......

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3 hours ago, spidermike007 said:

Is there an impending sense of xenophobia in the air? Has the biggest joke made it worse? Does he despise foreigners? Is there an equal effort being made to pursue Thai lawbreakers?

Nah.. They put more police power into hunting down overstayers and people of color than to be bother with Murder, Rape done by Thais where a wai, a sorry and some money can negate all those minutes spent on the cases. By the way, when will the police and immigration go after the rich boy that murdered one if their own? 

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I am I little concerned about the situation.

i know of someone that was arrested and deported for working and overstaying 

yes he broke the law he did have a work permit ( i not sure if expired or not ) but all that to one side he had 5 thai children to support and a thai wife 

 

i dont see people like this to be a “ bad Forang “ or any threat to Thailand but a victim to the system.

 

probably a heavy fine could have been sufficient and a strong warning but for all I know he already had that and continued to break the law

 

doesn’t change the fact there is now a mother alone with 5 children 

 

these visa runs for workers are killers

 

forangs have to declare tax on 50,000 baht per month 

 

then take a few days off every now and then for border runs 

 

there needs to be an even balance for people thag have thai families to support balanced and fare 

 

to separate the total piss takers from people that are braking bread to help the country by paying taxes and feeding thai family’s plus spending their money earnt back into the country 

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3 hours ago, ksamuiguy said:

No they don't want us any more we served our purpose in the past.

Now we will see what ASIAN brings them, tourism is very good but benefits very few Thais, nothing trickles down to the people so no benefit to them. The tour companies and hotels keep the tourists "sequestered" with in-house activities, arranged tours and buffets they never get out, so never go to the shops to shop. Here in the Samui even the Cruse ships, everything is arranged in advance on the Ship, when the ship arrives a meriod of vans pick up the passengers and whisk them away never to be seen until the ship is ready to leave, all has been arranged for their stay on Samui. Obviously "trickle down" economy does not exist, so our local economies get no benefits from the tourism boom!

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  so our local economies get no benefits from the tourism boom!

No offence but...

In Tesco Lotus Lamai or Chaweng, I meet hundreds of tourists customers every time. 

In HomePro there are as many farangs and sometimes even more than Thais customers

On the roads, it's hundreds of farangs on rental motorcycles. 

Near my house there are two restaurants when I pass by about 7 or 8 PM, both are full every night, no Thai customers only farangs. 

If I go to a Family-Mart or a 7-Eleven most of the time there are 2/3 farangs in the store. 

I went four times to Bankok Hospital this month, it was full of people each morning, maybe 10% of Thais the rest was tourists

TrueMove Ais and other telephone company's shops are never void of farangs inquiring.

"But the local economies get no benefits from the tourism boom!"

OK... sorry, but we are in a kind of delirium! Maybe due to a personal disappointment? But certainly not based on reality :jap:

 
 
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1 hour ago, jessebkk1 said:

 

   You can continue to support this Xenophobic acts by the Thai Government, and I believe you are either three of one of these groups of people who feel they re never going to have to be under the hammer of this growing Xenophobia. You are either a luk kreung, a foreigner married to Thai but you live outside the country, one of the lucky who got a residence permit or you a retiree.

 

 Here is what you need to understand foreigners are being used as scape goats in this political game currently ongoing in Thailand and being that most Thai's are closet Xenophobes they honestly don't have  problem with it.

 

And here is where the problem is for a person like you cheering on this Mania. If you are a luk kreung you already know that you never be considered Thai, and you never be able to run for a mere council office as politician not unless your other half is asian, if you're married to a Thai woman who raised in Thailand or by a Thai woman anywhere else then your marriage is only a marriage of comfort, and whatever children you bring fort will FOREVER be foreigners and disenfranchised in thailand, If you're a retiree - understand this you can't survive here without the younger lads and their businesses, Thailand would never be thesame without them and yes, once they start lacking foreigners other visa categories, they'll start harassing your old ass in the retiree dept, and if you are one of the lucky few who got the residence card, you still not considered Thai, you're not "Thai Thai", you can't get a car loan or a house loan, and when ever you stop bending over you will be reminded that you are just a foreigner with an ID.

Your post makes little sense. You say luk kreung  will never be considered real Thai and can't even run for a council office.  That half Thai children will forever be disenfranchised in Thailand.  luk kreung  may have been considered that many years ago but they have full Thai rights and privileges now. Many of the actors, singers, models  entertainers are luk kreung  . They can run for political office, buy land , serve in the military own businesses and don't need a work permit like a foreigner would.

You say us retirees can't survive without the younger lads and their business.  ???? Retiree means I don't work, I receive money every month from a pension, property rentals, stocks or shares/income from a business I own so where do I need younger  lads and their business to survive?  I am not Thai. do not care to be a Thai citizen or permanent resident but will stay here as long as I like andwill leave if things become difficult. 

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1 hour ago, Iumentum said:

I see no relation between the difficulties foreigner got who decide to live here and big joke is cleaning up. Of course i am cheering for people who arent here legally being tossed out, because they are not supposed to be here and at the end of the day they have been a part of what with time has made it more and more complicated to be here legally. What you are doing is pilling unrelated issues upon each other.

If someone want to be here, do it right or face the consequences as simple as that. I myself want the same from people who migrate to my birth country.

I wish that many other western countries would actually start to clean out as well, but sadly enough, many places in Europe it is "Bad guy in, good guys out" where you can stay if you are criminal but tossing out kids.

My initial comment was an attempt to slight you for your lack of empathy, calling economic Migrants "cockroaches" and remind you of where you really stand in the eyes of the average local as is encouraged by their government/politicians.

 

 I can see that you are either naive or new here, or maybe you really don't live here and you're paying an eye service to something that I believe is really going to be a huge problem for Thailand.

 

  Allow me to enlighten you -

 

  There is an ongoing crackdown on foreigners in Thailand right? however the term foreigner in Thailand does not accurately define foreigners being called foreigners in thailand. Why? because this country does NOT grant a permit to continue to live here regardless of how long you've been here. A lot of those people being paraded as criminal foreigners are people who might have been born here, raised here, married a local, have kids and grand kids who are thais, maintained their visas legally possibly for decades and now have 2 years or 2 months overstay. The Thai immigration is showing no mercy to any foreigner on overstay and treating them "all" like criminals.

 

 If this really was a genuine attempt by the government to remove illegals from the country they would start by giving longer stays to those who have earned the right to stay here (I'm not talking about citizenship), just a permit to stay - like a 3 or 5 years visa, renewable visa. That would reduce putting good people and those who are already technically by all definition "Thai people" in jails.

 

  Millions of Thais live outside this country, some in places you wouldn't even expect to find a foreigner, most of them have become respected/accepted residents and citizens in those place, and hundreds of thousands of Thais if not Millions are illegals in countries across the globe - and even they are not being subject to this type of humiliation.

 

 The encouragement and practice of Xenophobia in Thailand is disturbingly worrisome, and this non stop crack down of foreigners and constant negative rhetoric about foreigners is something anybody who genuinely cares about Thailand should be worried about and possibly speaking out to people in places of power to tone it down or at least address the issue of foreigners who've been in the country decades. As we read all these news here on TV, it's also being translated and read in many other languages globally, this arrogance and lack of empathy towards foreigners could cause a lot of people to start looking away from Thailand. One of thailand's advantage globally is that it is considered a neutral country, this crap is killing that notion! It's very easy to destroy something like that, that has taken centuries to build, however building back that reputation after it's completely shattered is no child's play.

 

There's a lot of xenophobia that passes on unnoticed, but this taunting of foreigners will bring some of those back to the fore and make it obvious that thais are Xenophobic.

 

  Fun Fact: Did you know that only Thai's are allowed to pray in certain tourist Buddhist Temples, not even an indian or nepali buddhist or a Laotian can pray there. They can all only stand and watch from a distance while the Thais walk in and pray. Imagine this anywhere else - any other religion.

 

   I remember some years back reading in the news about Hugo Chavez and how him and the citizens who supported him were Xenophobic towards foreigners, they chanted and celebrated every time an announcement of a foreign company being closed - A double edge sword. We all know the end of that story. Have a good day!

 

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Mentioning luk Kreung, my friend has two sons who were interested in joining the Thai Armed Forces. One explored becoming a Navy Officer. He was told by the recruiting office in no uncertain terms that wasn't possible because he wasn't really Thai. He could never expect to become more than a deck swabbie. He decided to not enlist.

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2 hours ago, bri1guy said:

 

 

The Thai economy wants you to Come (stay only for short vacation) spend as much Money as you can & leave ..    

 

2 hours ago, bri1guy said:

 

 

The Thai economy wants you to Come (stay only for short vacation) spend as much Money as you can & leave ..    

You are right of course, but so does every bar, restaurant, hotel, shop, or any other business. In the UK we love tourists coming to see the sites, question is do we want them staying? 

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3 minutes ago, Tony125 said:

Your post makes little sense. You say luk kreung  will never be considered real Thai and can't even run for a council office.  That half Thai children will forever be disenfranchised in Thailand.  luk kreung  may have been considered that many years ago but they have full Thai rights and privileges now. Many of the actors, singers, models  entertainers are luk kreung  . They can run for political office, buy land , serve in the military own businesses and don't need a work permit like a foreigner would.

You say us retirees can't survive without the younger lads and their business.  ???? Retiree means I don't work, I receive money every month from a pension, property rentals, stocks or shares/income from a business I own so where do I need younger  lads and their business to survive?  I am not Thai. do not care to be a Thai citizen or permanent resident but will stay here as long as I like and will leave if things become difficult. 

First of all, I hope people who make policies do not read comments from people like you and confuse it for a voice of reason - Don't wait for things to get worse, just leave already and stop commenting on issues that you know that you genuinely don't care about.

 

  Yes the luk kreungs are being used for what the populace believes they are meant for, actors, singers, tv ads, shower cream ads etc, that's exactly what I was saying, Stay Woke Old friend!

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18 minutes ago, jessebkk1 said:

My initial comment was an attempt to slight you for your lack of empathy, calling economic Migrants "cockroaches" and remind you of where you really stand in the eyes of the average local as is encouraged by their government/politicians.

 

 I can see that you are either naive or new here, or maybe you really don't live here and you're paying an eye service to something that I believe is really going to be a huge problem for Thailand.

 

  Allow me to enlighten you -

 

  There is an ongoing crackdown on foreigners in Thailand right? however the term foreigner in Thailand does not accurately define foreigners being called foreigners in thailand. Why? because this country does NOT grant a permit to continue to live here regardless of how long you've been here. A lot of those people being paraded as criminal foreigners are people who might have been born here, raised here, married a local, have kids and grand kids who are thais, maintained their visas legally possibly for decades and now have 2 years or 2 months overstay. The Thai immigration is showing no mercy to any foreigner on overstay and treating them "all" like criminals.

 

 If this really was a genuine attempt by the government to remove illegals from the country they would start by giving longer stays to those who have earned the right to stay here (I'm not talking about citizenship), just a permit to stay - like a 3 or 5 years visa, renewable visa. That would reduce putting good people and those who are already technically by all definition "Thai people" in jails.

 

  Millions of Thais live outside this country, some in places you wouldn't even expect to find a foreigner, most of them have become respected/accepted residents and citizens in those place, and hundreds of thousands of Thais if not Millions are illegals in countries across the globe - and even they are not being subject to this type of humiliation.

 

 The encouragement and practice of Xenophobia in Thailand is disturbingly worrisome, and this non stop crack down of foreigners and constant negative rhetoric about foreigners is something anybody who genuinely cares about Thailand should be worried about and possibly speaking out to people in places of power to tone it down or at least address the issue of foreigners who've been in the country decades. As we read all these news here on TV, it's also being translated and read in many other languages globally, this arrogance and lack of empathy towards foreigners could cause a lot of people to start looking away from Thailand. One of thailand's advantage globally is that it is considered a neutral country, this crap is killing that notion! It's very easy to destroy something like that, that has taken centuries to build, however building back that reputation after it's completely shattered is no child's play.

 

There's a lot of xenophobia that passes on unnoticed, but this taunting of foreigners will bring some of those back to the fore and make it obvious that thais are Xenophobic.

 

  Fun Fact: Did you know that only Thai's are allowed to pray in certain tourist Buddhist Temples, not even an indian or nepali buddhist or a Laotian can pray there. They can all only stand and watch from a distance while the Thais walk in and pray. Imagine this anywhere else - any other religion.

 

   I remember some years back reading in the news about Hugo Chavez and how him and the citizens who supported him were Xenophobic towards foreigners, they chanted and celebrated every time an announcement of a foreign company being closed - A double edge sword. We all know the end of that story. Have a good day!

 

Where did i call economic immigrant cockroaches? Try to read my comment in context, because i actually refer to a lot of criminals who has been using Thailand as safehaven. That i might consider economic migrant roaches is another thing and totally off the rails. No matter what the reasons you come here for, you should do it the legal way or face the consequences.

 

Irrelevant how long i have been here and the true negativity is shown in your main comment that has a negative attitude towards this crackdown which is a very reasonable crackdown. So call me negative all you want, while i look at the things with positive eyes and appreciate them tossing out the trash.

If you dont like Thailand then move along, i bet that nobody has forced you to be here. While as i wrote then there is plenty of issues for foreigners who want to stay here long term, which of many should be fixed does not make this crackdown any less reasonable.

You have to keep one thing in mind, those who have been here exploiting things while it was still easy, are partly the reason why things has become more difficult for foreigners with time. 

If you even cared to read my first comment i even wrote "There dont have to be any xenophobia involved to wanting to clean up in the backyard (that being said doesnt mean there isnt any)." so at no point did i deny that it exist, what i do point out is trying to relate this crackdown to such thing is folly and IMO downright obnoxious and makes me wonder who the true xenophobes is here.

Again, Thailand has every right to clean out and prevent people to be here illegally and they should do so. Too many criminal scum has been hiding out here while taking part of terrible businesses such a human trafficking, wanted by other countries and so forth. If you have a problem with the whole "good guys in, bad guys out" i can only wonder which guy you truly are!?!

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