webfact Posted October 29, 2018 Share Posted October 29, 2018 Patrons shocked as German teen collapses and dies in Krabi pub Pictures: Sanook Thai media reported that a 19 year old German man collapsed in an Ao Nang pub at the weekend. Tourist and immigration police were called and Johannes Amin Leonard Stenger (name transliterated from Thai) was taken to hospital where he was pronounced dead. Travelling companion Aaron Blanc, also 19, from Canada, said that he and the deceased had arrived in Krabi on Thursday. ' Mr Blanc said that his friend collapsed in the pub and after shocked patrons recovered their senses he was given CPR outside as the authorities were called. Sanook reported that police looked in the deceased man's room and found "many kinds of drugs". These appeared to be pharmaceutical in nature. The body was sent for autopsy to Region 8 in Surat Thani. Police suspect a reaction to taking drugs with alcohol but no cause of death has yet been reported. They are checking CCTV taken from the area. The relevant embassy and relatives have been informed. Source: Sanook -- © Copyright Thai Visa News 2018-10-29 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
keith101 Posted October 29, 2018 Share Posted October 29, 2018 You go to any Pharmacy here in Thailand asking for something for a problem and they will give you a handful of different drugs because this is what Thais do when their sick , i am yet to see my wife just take one tablet for something its usually 2-4 and different types depending on what is wrong . Thai logic if one doesn't work the others will . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scorecard Posted October 29, 2018 Share Posted October 29, 2018 Any I've heard a Thai doctor say that they always give 3 or 4 different tablets to patients because if they don't the patient will say they got poor service from the doctor, even ask for more tablets. It's a puzzle. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lupatria Posted October 29, 2018 Share Posted October 29, 2018 Did he swallow the "preventivo" without enough water? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bluesofa Posted October 29, 2018 Share Posted October 29, 2018 27 minutes ago, scorecard said: Any I've heard a Thai doctor say that they always give 3 or 4 different tablets to patients because if they don't the patient will say they got poor service from the doctor, even ask for more tablets. It's a puzzle. I'd agree with that. They pay money, they want to see some physical result - in the form of medicine. In the cases where it's true, they don't want to hear the doctor tell them their ailment will be cured naturally by their own body. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bristolgeoff Posted October 29, 2018 Share Posted October 29, 2018 he must have taken all sorts of drugs good and bad.we now know who was the winner Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
roo860 Posted October 29, 2018 Share Posted October 29, 2018 More ridiculous pointing. This time at the invisible bloody man!!! Sent from my SM-G920F using Thailand Forum - Thaivisa mobile app Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OneMoreFarang Posted October 29, 2018 Share Posted October 29, 2018 Let's wait for the story in The Sun or Bild. I am sure someone in Thailand will be blamed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pattaya28 Posted October 29, 2018 Share Posted October 29, 2018 What are the "pointers" pointing at ? Hilarious !! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KhunBENQ Posted October 29, 2018 Share Posted October 29, 2018 1 hour ago, webfact said: Police suspect a reaction to taking drugs with alcohol but no cause of death has yet been reported. And now lock up the pub operator allowing underaged consume alcohol on the premises Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KhunBENQ Posted October 29, 2018 Share Posted October 29, 2018 3 minutes ago, OneMoreFarang said: Let's wait for the story in The Sun or Bild. I am sure someone in Thailand will be blamed. See previous post Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maejo Man Posted October 29, 2018 Share Posted October 29, 2018 The supposed "drug" in the foreground is Fenistil and is used for a skin complaint or itching skin. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KhunBENQ Posted October 29, 2018 Share Posted October 29, 2018 6 minutes ago, Maejo Man said: The supposed "drug" in the foreground is Fenistil and is used for a skin complaint or itching skin. And the rest is hardly to be identified (as illegal) drugs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scorecard Posted October 29, 2018 Share Posted October 29, 2018 29 minutes ago, bluesofa said: I'd agree with that. They pay money, they want to see some physical result - in the form of medicine. In the cases where it's true, they don't want to hear the doctor tell them their ailment will be cured naturally by their own body. Or put all of that another way, 'my friends won't be impressed if I don't come back from the doctor with 3 or 4 or more little zip lock medicine bags with different coloured tablets, pills, capsules etc'. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scorecard Posted October 29, 2018 Share Posted October 29, 2018 2 minutes ago, KhunBENQ said: And the rest is hardly to be identified (as illegal) drugs. So I wonder if this is just mainly overzealous reporting? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nikmar Posted October 29, 2018 Share Posted October 29, 2018 4 minutes ago, scorecard said: So I wonder if this is just mainly overzealous reporting? or over zealous police supposition. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fullcave Posted October 29, 2018 Share Posted October 29, 2018 1 hour ago, keith101 said: You go to any Pharmacy here in Thailand asking for something for a problem and they will give you a handful of different drugs because this is what Thais do when their sick , i am yet to see my wife just take one tablet for something its usually 2-4 and different types depending on what is wrong . Thai logic if one doesn't work the others will . Yes and incredibly when asked what the pharmacist gave them, they don't know. Just eat. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sanemax Posted October 29, 2018 Share Posted October 29, 2018 4 minutes ago, scorecard said: So I wonder if this is just mainly overzealous reporting? Not at all , just reported that various drugs were found in his room, which they were . I do think that you are just looking for something to complain about Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sheryl Posted October 29, 2018 Share Posted October 29, 2018 At this stage there is no evidence in any direction to indicate what he died of. The meds found in his room do not look sinister or illicit. That doesn't mean he might not have also taken something else, but neither does it suggest that he did. At this stage all possibilities are open. While one does naturally think overdose when young people die suddenly, this does sometimes happen from natural causes - cardiac arrythmias, burst aneurysms etc. As we all know Thai police tend to voice preliminary theories publicly. Bad form IMO. Let us all be sensitive in this thread. His death will have been a complete shock to his family and they may be searching the web for answers and come across this thread. If they do - I recommend if possible bringing the body back to Germany for autopsy there, quality of autopsy reports here tends not to be very good. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
owenm Posted October 29, 2018 Share Posted October 29, 2018 Some medications, even OTC can have contradictions when used in combination with other drugs, and in some cases can be fatal particularly when consumed with a few alcoholic drinks or he upped the recommend dosage.. I wonder whether the cocktail of drugs were prescribed by a doctor or recommended by a pharmacist? And if these led to his death.. Too young at 19 yrs to suddenly die.. RIP.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BEngBKK Posted October 29, 2018 Share Posted October 29, 2018 1 hour ago, OneMoreFarang said: Let's wait for the story in The Sun or Bild. I am sure someone in Thailand will be blamed. No.. He was not Chinese.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spock Posted October 29, 2018 Share Posted October 29, 2018 2 hours ago, keith101 said: You go to any Pharmacy here in Thailand asking for something for a problem and they will give you a handful of different drugs because this is what Thais do when their sick , i am yet to see my wife just take one tablet for something its usually 2-4 and different types depending on what is wrong . Thai logic if one doesn't work the others will . My Australian doctor called this a scattergun approach. Where I had used 4 pills for 6 months to cure a rash, he prescribed penicillin and the rash was gone in a week. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IssanMichael Posted October 29, 2018 Share Posted October 29, 2018 1 hour ago, roo860 said: More ridiculous pointing. This time at the invisible bloody man!!! Sent from my SM-G920F using Thailand Forum - Thaivisa mobile app Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spermwhale Posted October 29, 2018 Share Posted October 29, 2018 2 hours ago, scorecard said: Any I've heard a Thai doctor say that they always give 3 or 4 different tablets to patients because if they don't the patient will say they got poor service from the doctor, even ask for more tablets. It's a puzzle. The doctor is lying. I have thai doctor friends and they are TOLD by the hospital management to prescribe as much as they can because medicine is a huge money maker for the hospitals here. The mark up is extreme and it's easy money for the hospitals as the patients are too afraid to reject the pills. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlexRich Posted October 29, 2018 Share Posted October 29, 2018 Perhaps he had a medical condition. I feel for his parents. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Destiny1990 Posted October 29, 2018 Share Posted October 29, 2018 Maybe his drink was spiked to strongly? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
colinneil Posted October 29, 2018 Share Posted October 29, 2018 13 minutes ago, spermwhale said: The doctor is lying. I have thai doctor friends and they are TOLD by the hospital management to prescribe as much as they can because medicine is a huge money maker for the hospitals here. The mark up is extreme and it's easy money for the hospitals as the patients are too afraid to reject the pills. Your post is nonsense, medicine is a huge money maker for hospitals here? Absolute nonsense, just back 1 hour ago from the hospital, with medicine for my UTI. 28 pills ( ofoxacin ) bill 142 baht, so how the hell are the hospital making money out of that? Porters lifted me on a gurney, nurse took a sample of my urine, taken away and tested, doctor prescribed pills porters lifted me back in the pickup. Now before anybody starts telling me i am wrong, i have the bill in my hand, just need to find out how i can get that on here, if i can i will. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dunroaming Posted October 29, 2018 Share Posted October 29, 2018 In the thirteen plus years my wife and I lived in Chiang Mai we obviously had our fair share of visits to the hospital and various clinics. I used to turn a blind eye to the ludicrous amount of drugs that were prescribed to my wife every time. It was only after our son was born and he was prescribed medication that I questioned what it was and checked everything with a paediatric doctor friend of mine in the UK. Less that one in five were suitable and much to my wife's initial consternation I would bin the ones that were wrongly prescribed. Eventually she saw the light and ended up binning most of the drugs she was prescribed too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AGareth2 Posted October 29, 2018 Share Posted October 29, 2018 very sad news for the family Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nanaplaza666 Posted October 29, 2018 Share Posted October 29, 2018 2 hours ago, KhunBENQ said: And now lock up the pub operator allowing underaged consume alcohol on the premises I dont know the law in thailand but if 19 is underaged i think they can lock up every bar owner and operator in thailand i think your information is a bit harsh Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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