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What are the "Pro's & Con's" of living in Philippines?

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5 hours ago, andre47 said:

They are fining foreigners for not do their 90 day reports and this is ok because they don't obey the rules. They are not jailing them for that.
 

 

Tell that to those who are being arrested for being late on their 90-day reports or not having up-to-date TM30 residence forms.


 

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Immigration police carried out their latest nationwide search for foreigners living illegally in Thailand and made several hundred more arrests on Thursday.
 

Itthitpol said the operation focused on 238 areas around the country and resulted in the arrest of 730 foreigners.

 

...83 for not doing their 90-day residential reports to immigration officials, 62 for staying in places other than the one reported to the immigration...

 

 

 

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5 hours ago, andre47 said:

GDP growth: 3.0% (2015), 3.3% (2016), 3.9% (2017e), 4.1% (2018f)

Is this stagnating?

My understanding about people like you is zero!

You believe that BS?  do you speak to any Thais?  (doubtful I know). You are WAY off-topic.

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5 hours ago, BobBKK said:

You believe that BS?  do you speak to any Thais?  (doubtful I know). You are WAY off-topic.

Yes, I believe these figures. Just take a look to the highway between Pattaya and Bangkok. Compare the companies at the right and left side now with 2 or 5 years ago. Its growing fast. Take a look at Suvarnabhumi Airport now and 5 years ago and look what they are planing for the next 10 years. Then compare Thailand with their neighbors. Thailand is developing very fast. Of cause not everybody is a winner in this process. Some businesses are declining (beer bars) and other are growing. So if you ask some people on the street it is not sure that you will get a representative answer. Look how many cars are driving now at the streets and how many were 10 years ago. I know that many of them are bought by bank loan but anyway the people can afford them.

Thailand is changing. The old 'sanuk-culture' is slowly disappearing. Some of the old 'beer-bar-farang' will not like that and some of the uneducated Thai also don't like it because they have to start thinking and working.

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6 hours ago, TallGuyJohninBKK said:

 

Tell that to those who are being arrested for being late on their 90-day reports or not having up-to-date TM30 residence forms.

 

You can be arrested for overstay but not for being late on 90-day reports or TM30. You can be fined for that. Of cause if you are overstaying you will also not make a 90-day report or TM30 🙂 

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9 minutes ago, andre47 said:

You can be arrested for overstay but not for being late on 90-day reports or TM30. You can be fined for that. Of cause if you are overstaying you will also not make a 90-day report or TM30 🙂 

 

If you don't like or believe the news, that's your choice.

 

But don't try to mangle or mis-state what was clearly reported -- dozens of foreigners each were arrested for not having current 90-day report status and for not having current TM30 filings. You and everyone else here can clearly read the news report I linked to above, which was clear and unambiguous.

 

Supposedly, all these people being caught up in the Immigration raids are being blacklisted and slated for deportation. Whether that's in fact occurring with these arrests, AFAIK, the local news media have never followed up with those specific kinds of details/outcomes.

 

If the folks arrested in this particular raid were being arrested for overstay, then they would have been reported in the overstay category, which was separately listed

 

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He said 42 of them were arrested for overstaying their visas, 277 for sneaking into the country without a visa, 83 for not doing their 90-day residential reports to immigration officials, 62 for staying in places other than the one reported to the immigration, 69 for working in professions reserved for Thais and 76 for various other offences.

 

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Pros: None.
Cons: Everything.
If Thailand is to be considered "third world", then the Philippines is truly "fourth world".
You'd be mad to go and live there.

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On 11/1/2018 at 1:33 PM, watcharacters said:

 

I honestly believe it's always OK to post a topic such as this no matter how many times it's been previously posted.

 

One thing I've come to learn for certain since living in SEA is the changes that happen are far more rapid fire than those in my home country.

 

Information posted two months ago may already be stale for some or even many  topics.

 

Let's welcome the interest and concern shown by posters to simple inquire..

 

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I have no idea why anyone would complain about repeats of this topic. Things are constantly changing in both countries and NOW is perfect timing as many expats (myself included) are starting to explore the idea of relocating. I've spent about 5 years full time over there and 12 years in Thailand.

 

Here's last months comparison of electricity pricing. I pay 2 bills every month, one here and one over there in PI.

 

PI: 245 kWh = 3,200 PHP (13 PHP per kWh) (Provincial - Visaya region)

TH: 845 kWh = 3,653 THB (4.32 THB per KWh)

 

At the current exchange rate of about 1 THB = 1.62 PHP that makes the price of electricity in PI about 63% more expensive than Thailand. Fortunately, we don't use aircon in PI.

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1 hour ago, Thainess said:

Pros: None.
Cons: Everything.
If Thailand is to be considered "third world", then the Philippines is truly "fourth world".
You'd be mad to go and live there.

These 3rd and 4th world terms are meaningless and worthless.

 

There's no point discussing this topic with a person who calls themselves "Thainess". Thai people generally consider themselves superior to Filipinos and look down on them. I've noticed this time and time again as my wife is Filipino. There are many pros and many cons that can be discussed here, but an open and balanced mind is required, which is probably something you don't possess.

 

Here's one big plus to consider. If a foreigner is married to a Filipino, you can stay in the Philippines forever without a scrap of paperwork or even a single visit to immigration. To do that you need to exit once a year with your wife, and when you return you're stamped in for one year, no questions asked. In fact, if you are married to a Filipino they are extremely welcoming and friendly toward you at the airport. Contrast that to the unfriendly attitude Foreigners need to endure from Immigration Officers when married to Thais... and all the hoops they have to jump through, and all the financial requirements.

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7 minutes ago, tropo said:

These 3rd and 4th world terms are meaningless and worthless.

 

There's no point discussing this topic with a person who calls themselves "Thainess". Thai people generally consider themselves superior to Filipinos and look down on them. I've noticed this time and time again as my wife is Filipino. There are many pros and many cons that can be discussed here, but an open and balanced mind is required, which is probably something you don't possess.

 

Tropo, so you have a Filipina wife and apparently are living in Pattaya?

 

So does that mean you've reached some personal conclusion about the merits of living in TH vs the PH???

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20 minutes ago, TallGuyJohninBKK said:

 

Tropo, so you have a Filipina wife and apparently are living in Pattaya?

 

So does that mean you've reached some personal conclusion about the merits of living in TH vs the PH???

 

That's a very good question....

 

I know for sure I can't equal my quality of life anywhere in the Philipines to match what I have in Pattaya (for the same money). I would move back only if my visa situation becomes unworkable. Bear in mind we BOTH need visas, so it's not as simple as for just one. As it is we virtually live in both countries as we are in constant Skype contact with my wife's family and involved in their day to day life AND expenses and we own farmland and a house there too.

 

... and there's another reason why we're still stuck here. One year becomes two becomes 10 and so on. Once I've been living somewhere for too long it's harder to relocate. I become embedded and it takes a huge incentive to get up and leave. It's a question we've mulled over many times - if we go back to PI where would we want to live - and I constantly draw a blank. As I've spent 5 years over there full time and travelled all over, I'm quite familiar with most areas and what kind of lifestyle to expect. Bear in mind I wouldn't be going over as a sexpat. If I was a sexpat, I wouldn't be in Thailand. There's no comparison - PI wins hands down for "sexpattery".

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On 11/3/2018 at 11:56 AM, KittenKong said:

For you it probably would not be much of an issue in either country due to dual-taxation agreements, but some people have foreign income that is paid tax-free due to non-residency. Depending on where they live they may or may not be taxed on it there.

I've had a bank account for over 15 years in PI. If I have a large deposit come in they may ask about its source, and that's it. As a foreigner, you just tell them it's from your home country and that's the end of it. You're only taxed on interest (they withhold it). Bear in mind that foreign remittances are a huge percentage of the PI GDP, so they love seeing money come in.

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By the way...

The President of the Philippines Rodrigo Duterte is commanding killer groups and he treats the law with his feet. He is not far of being a dictator.

 

Think twice before moving to such a country.

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20 minutes ago, tropo said:

That's a very good question....

I know for sure I can't equal my quality of life anywhere in the Philipines to match what I have in Pattaya (for the same money).

 

So you've voted for Thailand with your tuchus!  :laugh:

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Just now, andre47 said:

By the way...

The President of the Philippines Rodrigo Duterte is commanding killer groups and he treats the law with his feet. He is not far of being a dictator.

 

Think twice before moving to such a country.

This is total nonsense. Just about everything has improved since Duterte took power, unless you're a corrupt cop or drug dealer. Poor people get more aid, hospitals are forced to treat people they used to turn away to die. Less young people are using drugs. Public offices are working better to serve people. The economy is growing too. He is not power hungry at all - he loves his people and he is very popular. He is not after money or power.


I first heard of Duterte in November 2013, when he visited Tacloban City, where 7000 people we killed by Typhoon Yolanda. He was the mayor of Davao back then and he visited another province due to concern for the people there. He wasn't even considering a run for president back then. I still remember his words: "where was God that day...". His war on drugs may be misguided, but it HAS taken a lot of drug pushers and users off the streets. 

 

On the contrary, you should be more concerned about power hungry people in Thailand and unelected military governments.

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7 minutes ago, TallGuyJohninBKK said:

 

So you've voted for Thailand with your tuchus!  :laugh:

Let me make this clear. I first came here in 2005 and decided to try it out. That was a 2005 version of Thailand that has changed quite a bit since... all for the worse. If I had first come to Thailand in 2018, I wouldn't have stayed long. The 2018 version of Thailand and the 2018 version of PI are a lot closer. That's the reason I have been considering moving back for quite a few years. A few visa problems are all it will take to tip the scale. I've always predicted that at some time in the future I will end up back there.

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