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eisfeld

S1000RR 2019

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1 hour ago, eisfeld said:

I can't even make out where the tail lights are.

Figured it out. The tail lights and indicators are integrated into the license plate holder. This will make tail tidies quite a bit more complex and expensive.

 

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I Like it! Heard talk of 14,000 pounds for the base model so possibly 850,000 ish in Thailand given the week pound, strong baht and Thai import tax ?

 

I actually prefer the red, looks like an inline 4 Panigale and that subframe on the motorsport color looks awful.

 

I think the 2 indicators turn red to make a brake light. I'm quite tempted.

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Wow, it finally got a tft screen 😉

Until today the old school display alone would have made me buy the Panigale if i ever wanted to buy a 1000cc supersports bike.

Imho the Panigale still looks better, but now it would be a tough decision

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3 minutes ago, thaiguzzi said:

Me being an old fashioned Luddite as most of the forum users know in this section, sorry but i just don't get any of it.

None whatsoever.

I mean it's a 2 cylinder 1250 fer chrissakes. The thing should be pulling trees out of the ground at tickover!

It's called having a bit of flywheel....

I saw a tech vid a few months back about the latest & greatest 1200 Ducati sportsbike, the guy is waving this crank about in one hand and it looks like it's out of a 250. No, a 125.

 Shit, proper crankshafts - you need two hands just to lift them off a bench...

Gosh, is that meant to be good?

Serious question.

14 and a 1/2 k? Horrible. Ghastly.

Back in the real world, i was testing various air cooled 803cc Ducatis at our local dealers today, a measly 75 bhp and 50 Ib ft torque (never have figured the new money metric version out), point being, pulling away from traffic lights on a dry road in the middle of the city with obvious diesel impregnation the back wheel was spinning like a good 'un... And another part of the city, locking the back wheel up with too much brake due to the same cause.

Carry on with your 207 bhp....

Er, VVT? or variable valve timing, but in BeemerSpeak?

 

Hehe, I get where you're coming from. And yes, I also think that nowerdays a lot of motorbikes have pretty questionable fueling or in general performance down low. That's why people are happy to get back some well behaved engines down low 🙂

 

I have one of those 803cc air cooled Ducatis and yes, you can spin the wheel easily on the diesel laden surfaces they call roads. But low down torque is a different thing entirely to high end HP. And let me be honest, I would not be able to utilize 200HP. I'm not a racer. I've ridden the 2017 S1000R for a whole day though and I can say the 165HP there can be a ton of fun in the right circumstances. Just every now and then... a little bit crazyness sprinkled around 🙂 Going 200kph and the speedo still climbing fast... not for everyone. In the rest of the times I'll take the torquey grunt. Torque gives a lot of satisfaction. It's a great feeling. High speed high RPM big HP is another thing entirely. It's completely nuts and scary. If manufacturers start to be able to make bikes that can do both well, hooray!

 

The reason I'm interested quite a bit in the new S1000RR is because I actually want the S1000R, based on this one. Maybe 170HP but more torque.

 

Yes VVT is nothing new. Others do it as well in various different ways. Some better, some worse. This specific implementation by BMW seems to be pretty solid (as in you can't really feel the transition) from the early reports.

 

You are a twin guy and like I said, I totally get you. I love me some twin, I currently own 3 twins. But, I also love 4 cylinder bikes and their specific characters.

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11 hours ago, thaiguzzi said:

Me being an old fashioned Luddite as most of the forum users know in this section, sorry but i just don't get any of it.

None whatsoever.

I mean it's a 2 cylinder 1250 fer chrissakes. The thing should be pulling trees out of the ground at tickover!

It's called having a bit of flywheel....

I saw a tech vid a few months back about the latest & greatest 1200 Ducati sportsbike, the guy is waving this crank about in one hand and it looks like it's out of a 250. No, a 125.

 Shit, proper crankshafts - you need two hands just to lift them off a bench...

Gosh, is that meant to be good?

Serious question.

14 and a 1/2 k? Horrible. Ghastly.

Back in the real world, i was testing various air cooled 803cc Ducatis at our local dealers today, a measly 75 bhp and 50 Ib ft torque (never have figured the new money metric version out), point being, pulling away from traffic lights on a dry road in the middle of the city with obvious diesel impregnation the back wheel was spinning like a good 'un... And another part of the city, locking the back wheel up with too much brake due to the same cause.

Carry on with your 207 bhp....

Er, VVT? or variable valve timing, but in BeemerSpeak?

Gotta respectfully disagree with some of that. 100nm between 5500 and 14500 is a lot of torque across a lot of rpm. Keeping an in-line 4 howling at the 10, 11, 12k sweet spot is tons of fun.

 

I also like twins (and triples) but there is also something about riding a turbine smooth inline 4 that really does it for me. I miss my gsxr but don’t really fancy dealing with Suzuki Thailand with a “big bike” so this might be the ticket if it’s as street friendly as the previous generation of s1000’s.

 

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I remember the time when 100HP was considered way more power than anybody would ever need, or even want.

Now it's over 200.

I guess in a decade or two we have 300HP bikes and scooters will start with 50HP.

I don't know if this world is going nuts or if I am just getting old and don't understand it anymore.

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27 minutes ago, JonnyF said:

Keeping an in-line 4 howling at the 10, 11, 12k sweet spot is tons of fun.

Where exactly will you do that?

On a racetrack and maybe on the German Autobahn, and that's about it.

I had a croatch rocket with the red line at 14,500RPM. Yes, great fun for a few seconds. And then I was way too fast for my surroundings.

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27 minutes ago, JonnyF said:

Keeping an in-line 4 howling at the 10, 11, 12k sweet spot is tons of fun.

For you, and obviously a large majority of riders over the decades.

Riders who like that in line 4 scream. Howl. Whatever.

But not for me.

My mechanical sympathy goes into mothering syndrome once i hear engines go past 9k. Preferably 8, or 7........

The only in line 4's i ever got was the last of the air cooled 1000, 1200, 1300, 1400 muscle bikes. Proper grunt, max rpm 9-10k.

 

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48 minutes ago, OneMoreFarang said:

Where exactly will you do that?

On a racetrack and maybe on the German Autobahn, and that's about it.

I had a croatch rocket with the red line at 14,500RPM. Yes, great fun for a few seconds. And then I was way too fast for my surroundings.

Yes, primarily on the track but there are lots of good roads in Thailand where you can open up a fast bike in relative safety at the right time. I wouldn’t be riding this bike to the 711.

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1 hour ago, taninthai said:

Great bike for the race track ,,complete over kill and pretty much waste of time for the roads,,great posing value though and looks mean as <deleted> on the road but what percentage are you gonna be able to use on road 20% to 30%.👍

I disagree. They make excellent all round bikes and a lot of people tour on them. Others commute to work on them. They are probably the most street based of the superbikes with the benefit of being excellent track bikes as well.

 

I would much rather take a s1000rr for one of my weekend trips to the beach in rayong or the twisties in Kanchanaburi (200 km of mainly dual carriage way) than one of the bikes people often quote as practical such as Ninja 300, Cbr500, crf250l etc. No comparison in terms of safety and fun when surrounded by Thais in trucks doing typical real world Thai highway speeds (140-160).

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