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Big Joke: UK woman was not raped on Phuket; Thai "sushi maker" arrested


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Got news for the headline writer here:


Digital penetration in the absence of consent IS legally RAPE!


If that's what in fact occurred, then the victim was in fact RAPED!


BTW, despite the headline, the OP article, or at least the English translation of the Thai version, doesn't have Joke explicitly saying what happened was NOT rape. It merely has him saying the hospital exam didn't find any "evidence" of rape, which in the case of digital penetration, there wouldn't necessarily be any evidence to find.


I have no idea what the original Thai language version has Joke saying or not saying.



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5 hours ago, worgeordie said:

Did the police smell his finger,then decide he only Penetrated her

with his finger,if he was a sushi maker his fingers would smell 

fishy anyway, this seem to be a ploy be the Police to say no rape

occurred.so no more bad news.


regards worgeordie

They better smell his dick too just to be make it a full and complete investigation.

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4 hours ago, zaphod reborn said:

That's meaningless.  Rape or sexual assault is defined by the criminal code of every jurisdiction.  It doesn't matter how a dictionary defines it.  Rape in Thailand requires intercorse.  In the US, most jurisdictions would charge this act as sexual assault, not rape.  Thailand's criminal code is antiquated, and the best BJ could do was molestation (Sec. 278).



So section 276 refers to less than 15 year old rapists or under 15 year old victims.  If so, why the charge for a 14 year old for sushi maker?

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If she was not awake, not aware, and not consenting, no matter whether finger or sex organ it is rape.

And noting that he said he had sex with her while she was asleep, and when she woke up she ran...

it was certainly rape.


But the powers that be seem far more interested in protecting the image of the country

than protecting the people in that country. Which is really losing far more face for the country

than they imagine they are saving. 

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4 hours ago, moe666 said:

What rock are you sleeping under, high season has started and Chiang Mai has been flooded by young farangs from America, europe, and GB. There are a lot of Spanish tourist this year

Go on name the 4 of them. I note you've already removed GB from Europe and Spain too.

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There are no excuses for the man. Knowing she was drunk and maybe passed out. How many times are we going to read of women getting drunk then going off with men they don't know? It's just asking for trouble.

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3 hours ago, janclaes47 said:

And I don't agree, this is from UK MET police, not wikipedia where everyone can write what he believes to be true.





Rape or sexual assault is a serious crime. Find out more below about rape and sexual assault, what constitutes consent, and some of the common myths around rape, sexual assault and reporting these offences.

Rape and sexual assault

All rape and sexual assault is serious. The terms rape and 'sexual assault' are used simply to differentiate between two types of offence. So what's the difference?

Rape is when a person intentionally penetrates another's vagina, anus or mouth with a penis, without the other person's consent. Assault by penetration is when a person penetrates another person's vagina or anus with any part of the body other than a penis, or by using an object, without the person's consent.

Actually, it wasn't taken from Wikipedia, for the same reason as you yourself cite in your post. It was taken from an online dictionary. 

I do however concede to the point you post re the UK Met. Police. Thanks for the clarification. :thumbsup:

Would Thai police view the above as law......from the article it would seem so.

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