gerritkaew Posted November 13, 2018 Share Posted November 13, 2018 gold diggers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
webfact Posted November 13, 2018 Share Posted November 13, 2018 Hospital Says Acid-Burn Victim Only Scalded With Hot Water By Asaree Thaitrakulpanich, Staff Reporter Chorlada Tarawan’s family mourns Tuesday in Khon Kaen, where her body has been taken for funerary rites. BANGKOK — The hospital that allegedly refused to treat a woman fatally burned in an acid attack now says she asked to leave the hospital voluntarily just before her death. Wallapha Chaiyamanowong, the Rama II Hospital director, said in a statement that Chorlada Tarawan, who died after her 12-year-old daughter says she was denied treatment, actually asked to leave the hospital after receiving first aid so she could use her social security benefits at another hospital. Full story: http://www.khaosodenglish.com/news/crimecourtscalamity/crime-crime/2018/11/13/hospital-says-acid-burn-victim-only-scalded-with-hot-water/ -- © Copyright Khaosod English 2018-11-13 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jack P Posted November 13, 2018 Share Posted November 13, 2018 11 hours ago, Rhys said: Profit...based care... Lack of profit motives didn’t stop Jimmy Savile. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cardinalblue Posted November 13, 2018 Share Posted November 13, 2018 A lot depends on the hospital and community treatment policies....can’t comment other than share my professional experience.... in the west, required that hospitals stabilize the patient from life threatening injuries or illnesses and ready for transport by their own or the receiving hospital...a physician must sign off on the care, patient condition and transport.... so it looks like 3 violations (but it depends on what their policies say): 1. Patient not medically stable for transport 2. Not diagnosed by a doctor 3. Not under the transport care of sending or receiving hospital 4. Communication to receiving hospital seems completely absent? so it doesn’t look good for hospital accountability and whether policies were followed or complied with... looks like sloppy or negligent case handling.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wvavin Posted November 13, 2018 Share Posted November 13, 2018 This is all too common when a hospital is profit driven therefore life is secondary. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xerostar Posted November 13, 2018 Share Posted November 13, 2018 Who needs to make "a diagnosis" when somebody has had acid thrown in their face ? Immediate simple first aid is required and I bet nobody even knew what to do. I had an accident in a laboratory where a test tube of hot concentrated sulfuric acid exploded in my face. The explosion blew me over backwards from the chair. Fortunately I had a bottle of sodium bicarbonate solution handy (baking soda in water) I tipped this solution over my face and then rushed to a tap and began flushing my face with water for about 15 minutes. Luckily I had been wearing safety glasses. The only injuries were some shards of the test tube embeded in the skin around my mouth and chin. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bristolgeoff Posted November 13, 2018 Share Posted November 13, 2018 the lawyer did not take long to get involved in this case.even if the the woman wanted to go too the other hospital.he must be on retainer for this case and bonus Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Emster23 Posted November 14, 2018 Share Posted November 14, 2018 Did hospital hire spokesperson from Saudi who handled the Kashoggi case so well? The story from hospital keeps changing in absurd ways that even surprise an old fart like me. "...fatally burned in an acid attack now says she asked to leave the hospital voluntarily just before her death." "That's all right Jack. It's just a flesh wound..." movie cliche... "The statement added that Chorlada was only scalded with hot water, not acid, and that her vitals were fine." Remind me not to go there if I have a heart attack... "His heart was beating when he got here, so we sent him away..." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Borzandy Posted November 14, 2018 Share Posted November 14, 2018 6 hours ago, xerostar said: Who needs to make "a diagnosis" when somebody has had acid thrown in their face ? Immediate simple first aid is required and I bet nobody even knew what to do. I had an accident in a laboratory where a test tube of hot concentrated sulfuric acid exploded in my face. The explosion blew me over backwards from the chair. Fortunately I had a bottle of sodium bicarbonate solution handy (baking soda in water) I tipped this solution over my face and then rushed to a tap and began flushing my face with water for about 15 minutes. Luckily I had been wearing safety glasses. The only injuries were some shards of the test tube embeded in the skin around my mouth and chin. In Thailand, an hospital using baking soda cannot make money. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Katipo Posted November 14, 2018 Share Posted November 14, 2018 Simply put, I don't believe a word the hospital is saying. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xerostar Posted November 14, 2018 Share Posted November 14, 2018 "In Thailand, an hospital using baking soda cannot make money." A friend of mine was in a Bangkok hospital recently, on a saline drip. The bill was 14,500 baht per day. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hansnl Posted November 14, 2018 Share Posted November 14, 2018 15 hours ago, cardinalblue said: A lot depends on the hospital and community treatment policies....can’t comment other than share my professional experience.... in the west, required that hospitals stabilize the patient from life threatening injuries or illnesses and ready for transport by their own or the receiving hospital...a physician must sign off on the care, patient condition and transport.... so it looks like 3 violations (but it depends on what their policies say): 1. Patient not medically stable for transport 2. Not diagnosed by a doctor 3. Not under the transport care of sending or receiving hospital 4. Communication to receiving hospital seems completely absent? so it doesn’t look good for hospital accountability and whether policies were followed or complied with... looks like sloppy or negligent case handling.... The policy followed probably had something to do with money. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hotchilli Posted November 14, 2018 Share Posted November 14, 2018 16 hours ago, cardinalblue said: A lot depends on the hospital and community treatment policies....can’t comment other than share my professional experience.... in the west, required that hospitals stabilize the patient from life threatening injuries or illnesses and ready for transport by their own or the receiving hospital...a physician must sign off on the care, patient condition and transport.... so it looks like 3 violations (but it depends on what their policies say): 1. Patient not medically stable for transport 2. Not diagnosed by a doctor 3. Not under the transport care of sending or receiving hospital 4. Communication to receiving hospital seems completely absent? so it doesn’t look good for hospital accountability and whether policies were followed or complied with... looks like sloppy or negligent case handling.... But you're not in the west... so irrelevant post ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Media1 Posted November 14, 2018 Share Posted November 14, 2018 1 hour ago, Borzandy said: In Thailand, an hospital using baking soda cannot make money. disgusting they are Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Srikcir Posted November 14, 2018 Share Posted November 14, 2018 9 hours ago, xerostar said: Who needs to make "a diagnosis" when somebody has had acid thrown in their face ? When it's not? "Chorlada was only scalded with hot water, not acid, and that her vitals were fine. “She ran into the emergency room and called for help and said she was in pain. Nurses there gave her emergency treatment and saw that her husband poured hot water on her,” read the statement signed by Wallapha. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lucky mike Posted November 14, 2018 Share Posted November 14, 2018 3 hours ago, xerostar said: "In Thailand, an hospital using baking soda cannot make money." A friend of mine was in a Bangkok hospital recently, on a saline drip. The bill was 14,500 baht per day. More fun and cheaper at the Hilton ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scorecard Posted November 14, 2018 Share Posted November 14, 2018 20 hours ago, webfact said: Hospital Says Acid-Burn Victim Only Scalded With Hot Water By Asaree Thaitrakulpanich, Staff Reporter Chorlada Tarawan’s family mourns Tuesday in Khon Kaen, where her body has been taken for funerary rites. BANGKOK — The hospital that allegedly refused to treat a woman fatally burned in an acid attack now says she asked to leave the hospital voluntarily just before her death. Wallapha Chaiyamanowong, the Rama II Hospital director, said in a statement that Chorlada Tarawan, who died after her 12-year-old daughter says she was denied treatment, actually asked to leave the hospital after receiving first aid so she could use her social security benefits at another hospital. Full story: http://www.khaosodenglish.com/news/crimecourtscalamity/crime-crime/2018/11/13/hospital-says-acid-burn-victim-only-scalded-with-hot-water/ -- © Copyright Khaosod English 2018-11-13 So why didn't the first hospital quickly and clearly advise her that she could use her 30Baht card at that hospital? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scorecard Posted November 14, 2018 Share Posted November 14, 2018 18 hours ago, cardinalblue said: A lot depends on the hospital and community treatment policies....can’t comment other than share my professional experience.... in the west, required that hospitals stabilize the patient from life threatening injuries or illnesses and ready for transport by their own or the receiving hospital...a physician must sign off on the care, patient condition and transport.... so it looks like 3 violations (but it depends on what their policies say): 1. Patient not medically stable for transport 2. Not diagnosed by a doctor 3. Not under the transport care of sending or receiving hospital 4. Communication to receiving hospital seems completely absent? so it doesn’t look good for hospital accountability and whether policies were followed or complied with... looks like sloppy or negligent case handling.... This is Thailand, not 'the west'. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
curlylekan Posted November 14, 2018 Share Posted November 14, 2018 "The hospital said they tried to contact Bangmod hospital but were unsuccessful. “Praram 2 Hospital is firm on the grounds that we did the best job we could in maintaining patient care, and would like to offer our condolences to the family,” the letter ended." How can 1 hospital not reach another hospital? It seems like they didn't do the best job that they could. Sounds just like government agencies. Both neither work in conjunction with other agencies who do jobs/work that may overlap. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Redline Posted November 14, 2018 Share Posted November 14, 2018 Gross negligence Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
newnative Posted November 14, 2018 Share Posted November 14, 2018 Umm. Hospital? If you're thinking this somehow makes you look better, you're dead wrong. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Classic Ray Posted November 14, 2018 Share Posted November 14, 2018 12 hours ago, xerostar said: "In Thailand, an hospital using baking soda cannot make money." A friend of mine was in a Bangkok hospital recently, on a saline drip. The bill was 14,500 baht per day. A doctor in Chiang Mai decided my three year old was dehydrated and kept him on IV saline for a whole day, 5 bags of salty water at 750 baht a bag, wholesale price 30 baht a bag, good business to be in, and Thais will never question a doctor. My protests to give him water with rehydration salts at 10 baht a pop fell on stony ground! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SantiSuk Posted November 14, 2018 Share Posted November 14, 2018 I'm impressed. I would not have thought that Thailand had any high profile lawyers prepared to take on the behemoths of Thai society such as the hospital groups. Would have expected any such person to be taken aside by persons of significant interest and reminded 'which way is up'. A big up to this lawyer! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bangkok Barry Posted November 17, 2018 Share Posted November 17, 2018 On 11/14/2018 at 10:32 AM, Media1 said: disgusting they are Some years ago a friend of mine was in need of some TLC and went to a hospital saying he had suffered whiplash in a taxi accident. He had not. He made it up. But that didn't stop the hospital finding a non-existent injury and even producing an x-ray to prove it. I imagine they keep some in a drawer to pull out when required for the next scam. They also wanted him to stay in the hospital overnight for observation. Disgusting indeed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Media1 Posted November 17, 2018 Share Posted November 17, 2018 55 minutes ago, Bangkok Barry said: Some years ago a friend of mine was in need of some TLC and went to a hospital saying he had suffered whiplash in a taxi accident. He had not. He made it up. But that didn't stop the hospital finding a non-existent injury and even producing an x-ray to prove it. I imagine they keep some in a drawer to pull out when required for the next scam. They also wanted him to stay in the hospital overnight for observation. Disgusting indeed. l believe. Anything's possible here. There no real laws Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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