webfact Posted November 13, 2018 Share Posted November 13, 2018 Court gives Canadian vandal 100K fine - but what about "Scouser Lee"? Canadian media reported that their 22 year old national who spray-painted the historic Tha Pae gate in Chiang Mai in mid October has been let off with a fine. CTV News Edmonton said that Brittney Schneider had been fined 100,000 baht. She was initially given two years jail plus the fine but the judge took pity. She said: “Honestly I’m so relieved, I’m so happy and I am beyond thankful that the judge showed so much compassion for us," "Actually a lot of people I’ve met in Thailand showed a lot of compassion even tho [sic] it was their wall I vandalized. They still were so nice to me and were so worried about me.” The news organization said they did not know when Schneider would be returning to Alberta. “I have to wait for the court to send papers to immigration stating my case is closed and that I’m no longer black listed”, she added. Schneider used a can of black spray paint to mark the letter "B" on the wall. Her accomplice Lee Furlong, 23, from Liverpool wrote much more including an attempt to spell the word "Scouser" (an inhabitant of Liverpool). The Canadian TV station made no mention of his fate. Earlier reports suggested that the vandals could face a jail term of up to ten years for desecrating a historical monument. -- © Copyright Thai Visa News 2018-11-13 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
canopus1969 Posted November 13, 2018 Share Posted November 13, 2018 Nice photo, 2 elephants playing together... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SammyT Posted November 13, 2018 Share Posted November 13, 2018 She looks like she'd fit right in as a butch prison inmate too. Damn shame the judge didn't make it happen... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChakaKhan Posted November 13, 2018 Share Posted November 13, 2018 Curious to see what the OTHER kid gets....any news???? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pegman Posted November 13, 2018 Share Posted November 13, 2018 33 minutes ago, ChakaKhan said: Curious to see what the OTHER kid gets....any news???? This report states they received the same 2 years suspended and ฿100,000 fine. https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/edmonton/brittney-schneider-thailand-graffiti-no-prison-1.4902611 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
seahorse Posted November 13, 2018 Share Posted November 13, 2018 11 hours ago, canopus1969 said: Nice photo, 2 elephants playing together... I thought buffaloes would be more appropriate. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ukrules Posted November 13, 2018 Share Posted November 13, 2018 Massive over reaction. Graffiti was easily removed and left no damage. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sanemax Posted November 13, 2018 Share Posted November 13, 2018 50 minutes ago, ukrules said: Massive over reaction. Graffiti was easily removed and left no damage. It may stop other people behaving in a similar way though Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ukrules Posted November 13, 2018 Share Posted November 13, 2018 1 hour ago, sanemax said: It may stop other people behaving in a similar way though Maybe, it might also make people think twice before coming on holiday to a country where foreigners are sentenced very differently to locals. Then again maybe they won't care. It will be reported world wide anyway, that's for sure. Two years supended prison sentence plus thousands of dollars in fines for mere graffiti - pathetic! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sanemax Posted November 13, 2018 Share Posted November 13, 2018 2 minutes ago, ukrules said: Maybe, it might also make people think twice before coming on holiday to a country where foreigners are sentenced very differently to locals. Two years supended prison sentence plus thousands of dollars in fines for mere graffiti - pathetic! Yes, hopefully potential tourists who feel that they are inclined to act in a similar way , will decide not to come to Thailand Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
manarak Posted November 13, 2018 Share Posted November 13, 2018 52 minutes ago, ukrules said: Maybe, it might also make people think twice before coming on holiday to a country where foreigners are sentenced very differently to locals. Then again maybe they won't care. It will be reported world wide anyway, that's for sure. Two years supended prison sentence plus thousands of dollars in fines for mere graffiti - pathetic! and if they just sentenced differently based on income / buying power ? Western countries do that. also, I'm pretty sure the ease of cleaning up was not at the center of the two punks' concerns when they sprayed the wall, so it shouldn't be considered for the punishment. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ukrules Posted November 13, 2018 Share Posted November 13, 2018 35 minutes ago, manarak said: and if they just sentenced differently based on income / buying power ? Western countries do that. Only the backwards ones. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
catman20 Posted November 13, 2018 Share Posted November 13, 2018 1 hour ago, ukrules said: Maybe, it might also make people think twice before coming on holiday to a country where foreigners are sentenced very differently to locals. Then again maybe they won't care. It will be reported world wide anyway, that's for sure. Two years supended prison sentence plus thousands of dollars in fines for mere graffiti - pathetic! Maybe, it might also make people think twice before coming on holiday to a country where foreigners are sentenced very differently to locals. good i dont think farangs or Thai what these fools here anyway. they make the rest of us look bad. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sanemax Posted November 13, 2018 Share Posted November 13, 2018 30 minutes ago, ukrules said: Only the backwards ones. Its a necessary thing to do , otherwise rich people would break laws and just pay a fine , which will have no effect on them . A millionaire wouldnt even notice a $100 fine , whereas a penniless homeless person would Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
edwardflory Posted November 14, 2018 Share Posted November 14, 2018 "Two years supended prison sentence plus thousands of dollars in fines for mere graffiti - pathetic!" She should be happy she was not in Singapore ...... Pathetic that a visitor to a foreign country, makes a arse out of herself. Singapore: .. the CANE .. WELTS on the arse .. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jesimps Posted November 14, 2018 Share Posted November 14, 2018 A 2 year sentence would be appropriate for the graffiti cretins worldwide, people like Banksy. If they'd dealt with Kilroy in a strict way we probably wouldn't have all this graffiti around today. To me it's far worse than littering and is a sort of sickness. This "lady" should have served her sentence with no reduction, with hard labour thrown in. So should the Scouser, and I'm from that part of the world myself. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dotpoom Posted November 14, 2018 Share Posted November 14, 2018 16 hours ago, canopus1969 said: Nice photo, 2 elephants playing together... What she did was very wrong ..what you said is very sick...wrong can change to right ....Sick? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
harrycallahan Posted November 14, 2018 Share Posted November 14, 2018 2 hours ago, sanemax said: Yes, hopefully potential tourists who feel that they are inclined to act in a similar way , will decide not to come to Thailand I hope the remainders don't mind seeing a local get a 500 baht fine after threatening them with a knife! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thailand49 Posted November 14, 2018 Share Posted November 14, 2018 Fine is more than what Thai give for attempted murder or killing someone on the road. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sanemax Posted November 14, 2018 Share Posted November 14, 2018 39 minutes ago, harrycallahan said: I hope the remainders don't mind seeing a local get a 500 baht fine after threatening them with a knife! Why do you hope that ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thaiguzzi Posted November 14, 2018 Share Posted November 14, 2018 Imagine. After a heavy night on the pi$$, waking up with the world's worst hangover, unable to remember what happened at the end of the previous night, and Brittney is sitting on your face............. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crash999 Posted November 14, 2018 Share Posted November 14, 2018 3 hours ago, ukrules said: Maybe, it might also make people think twice before coming on holiday to a country where foreigners are sentenced very differently to locals. Then again maybe they won't care. It will be reported world wide anyway, that's for sure. Two years supended prison sentence plus thousands of dollars in fines for mere graffiti - pathetic! If it makes people think twice who are the type to spray graffiti then that’s a good thing. We don’t need more “Scousse Lee” and “B”. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IAMHERE Posted November 14, 2018 Share Posted November 14, 2018 28 minutes ago, thaiguzzi said: Imagine. After a heavy night on the pi$$, waking up with the world's worst hangover, unable to remember what happened at the end of the previous night, and Brittney is sitting on your face............. Count your blessings, you woke up.???? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
giddyup Posted November 14, 2018 Share Posted November 14, 2018 2 hours ago, ukrules said: Only the backwards ones. The so-called advanced counties like the US, UK, Australia etc are covered in graffiti because the penalties are so light. Perhaps you are a graffiti "artist" yourself and see no harm in it? Others see it as a blight on the landscape. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sanemax Posted November 14, 2018 Share Posted November 14, 2018 42 minutes ago, Crash999 said: If it makes people think twice who are the type to spray graffiti then that’s a good thing. We don’t need more “Scousse Lee” and “B”. *Oi Bruv, fancy gunna Thailand for an oliday , roll a few spliffs and get a couple a prossies and get well wasted" <deleted> to dat bruv, we may end up in da slammer for riting our name on a wall" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scottiejohn Posted November 14, 2018 Share Posted November 14, 2018 18 hours ago, canopus1969 said: Nice photo, 2 elephants playing together... Oh shame on you! What an insult to the real baby elephant to think it resembles the Lumberjack next to it! Now an Elephant and a Buffon playing together might be a better description. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
snowgard Posted November 14, 2018 Share Posted November 14, 2018 2 hours ago, sanemax said: Its a necessary thing to do , otherwise rich people would break laws and just pay a fine , which will have no effect on them . A millionaire wouldnt even notice a $100 fine , whereas a penniless homeless person would You are right, but this is Thailand!!! The fines are written in the law so everyone have to pay the same. And it looks like it hit only the poor one. The fines looks like: "shall be imprisoned as from one year to ten years and fined as from two thousand Baht to twenty thousand Baht." Just search for fines!!! Source: https://www.samuiforsale.com/law-texts/thailand-penal-code.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Travelighlty Posted November 14, 2018 Share Posted November 14, 2018 4 hours ago, ukrules said: Maybe, it might also make people think twice before coming on holiday to a country where foreigners are sentenced very differently to locals. Then again maybe they won't care. It will be reported world wide anyway, that's for sure. Two years supended prison sentence plus thousands of dollars in fines for mere graffiti - pathetic! Just think though how western cities would be cleaned up if a similar standard was upheld. Isn’t lashing used in Singapore for spitting on the street? I heard it’s considered socially acceptable for Chinese to spit on the floor in restaurants and the Chinese tourists are given a booklet for how they should conduct themselves while traveling in Thailand. (That’s the rumor I’ve heard.) Maybe some people just never learn to behave with socially responsible civic standards? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ctkong Posted November 14, 2018 Share Posted November 14, 2018 5 hours ago, sanemax said: It may stop other people behaving in a similar way though I agree. Not whether the wall can be cleaned or salvaged but to send out a message that you ,as a guest of the country you visit, respect their culture and traditions. Don’t be an axxxhole when traveling overseas. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PerkinsCuthbert Posted November 14, 2018 Share Posted November 14, 2018 It is of course the absolute right of a host government to impose a punishment through the courts, as it sees fit and according to the local law. That said, it may occur to Thai lawmakers to enshrine the blatant disparity in punishment for minor misdemeanours, which under the present laws is not explicit, into two separate codes, one for Thais (a rap on the knuckles, a shamefaced insincere apology) and one for foreigners (a stiff fine, a threat of gaol, a terrifying ordeal in a foreign language ). That way, visitors to this fair land would have a better grasp of what to expect from the judge in the event of arrest for a drunken, juvenile slip-up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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