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Amazing fall from grace for Pattaya big shot Luke Cook - respected expat to death row in Thailand

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On 11/14/2018 at 9:57 PM, peterb17 said:

Wow have you ever heard of paragraphs? 

 

The trouble with drug dealers is that their products ( cut with heaven know what) kill people in the 100s of thousands .

 

Actually Thailand has not executed anybody for years - the death penalty is symbolic- but I have a suspicion he will be behind bars for a very very long time. 

Thailand executed someone this year; commentators have speculated about whether a tougher policy is in play.

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On 11/14/2018 at 3:53 PM, Scouse123 said:

The Aussies like many other countries have a treaty with Thailand.

 

He can apply to serve his remaining term of imprisonment in an Australian prison after serving eight years in Bang Kwang.

 

 

Peter Allan has been in Bang Kwang for approx 15 - 16 years now (He's from Sydney) - I visit him annually when i'm in BKK, although the army are not making it easy for foreigners to have visitors (involves a visit to the Aus embassy)

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6 hours ago, alt said:

Peter Allan has been in Bang Kwang for approx 15 - 16 years now (He's from Sydney) - I visit him annually when i'm in BKK, although the army are not making it easy for foreigners to have visitors (involves a visit to the Aus embassy)

Involves a visit to the embassy? Never used to be like this 

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16 hours ago, alt said:

Peter Allan has been in Bang Kwang for approx 15 - 16 years now (He's from Sydney) - I visit him annually when i'm in BKK, although the army are not making it easy for foreigners to have visitors (involves a visit to the Aus embassy)

Alt,

 

If you ask him, you will probably find he is now staying through choice as he prefers his life in a Thai prison to the unknown of an Australian one.

 

Western countries have different treaties with Thailand but I am well aware and know for a fact Australia does have one. 

 

Many foreigners choose to stay once they have been in a Thai prison for a number of years, their reasons are varied, but include more restrictions and conditions in their home countries prisons, avoiding a criminal record in their country of origin being listed against their name, some have appealed and their cases are still in the courts or they are delaying their cases deliberately as they do not wish to return home  ( some have charges awaiting in their homelands) they are awaiting the result of an appeal to the King for amnesty, in the forlorn hope, that if one is granted they will be able to return to Thailand. Another, they are treated way harsher in their own countries, (this is usually Middle Easterners). Some just have nothing to return to.

 

There are many reasons.

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^^ To answer both questions above.

 

As you're probably aware, visiting a foreign inmate used to consist of knowing their name & block number. You'd then go on the day that the particular block was assigned to visitors. This has changed. I think direct family / missionaries (known to the prison) are except from this, but certainly 'random' visitors are not.

 

What I had to do (in Peter's case, as he's AUS citizen), was visit the AUS embassy. I was told to contact a certain person in the embassy (I was given the name from a friend of Peter's who visits him monthly). I explained my case, I explained that I considered Peter family (although not blood related) as I have been visiting him (granted, only per per year) for the past 7 years. The lady wrote quite a long letter (in Thai), with the exact date I was visiting (the next day). When I arrived at Bang Kwang, I handed this letter along with a copy of passport and the little slip form you fill in.

 

I really do not think Peter is choosing to stay in Bang Kwang. From memory, 2 of his previous appeals were rejected. This appeal, according to the embassy, was accepted. When I visited Peter last December, he was over the damn moon to hear the news that he's hopefully being transferred.... infact, it's almost all we walked about. He talked about his 'some day' freedom, hopefully returning to complete his degree. Let me tell you, from the stories he's told me, no one would 'choose' to stay in a Thai prison.

 

On that note, I will be emailing my BKK contact this afternoon and if I get a reply I will update anyone who may be interested (PM please). I am hoping that I will be told he's now back in AUS, I have my fingers crossed.

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On 11/14/2018 at 3:07 AM, marko kok prong said:

I said in another post some while ago,if you are into big time drug smuggling 99.9% of the time you will end up dead or in jail.

 

99.9%!! Wow, that .9% implies a level of accuracy that I seriously doubt exists.

 

Next, if it is accurate, I am seriously considering getting into the "big time drug business".  I mean, I can say that those of us non-big time drug dealers will end up 100% of the time... DEAD!  And I can further say that with a great deal of certainty.

 

According to your stats 0.1% of the time big time drug dealers will NOT end up dead.  That's a better chance than the rest of us have.

 

On the other hand, what exactly happens to that 0.1%? Do they join the ranks of the un-dead?

 

 

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4 hours ago, Watchful said:

 

99.9%!! Wow, that .9% implies a level of accuracy that I seriously doubt exists.

 

Next, if it is accurate, I am seriously considering getting into the "big time drug business".  I mean, I can say that those of us non-big time drug dealers will end up 100% of the time... DEAD!  And I can further say that with a great deal of certainty.

 

According to your stats 0.1% of the time big time drug dealers will NOT end up dead.  That's a better chance than the rest of us have.

 

On the other hand, what exactly happens to that 0.1%? Do they join the ranks of the un-dead?

 

 

Your probaly no doubt correct, but, its a risk , a gamble to do what he did, he may have won several times before but this time the horse lost.

 

a lot get caught because of greed, they do it several times and win , then keep doing it, before they get caught.

 

 

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On 11/14/2018 at 9:54 AM, Media1 said:

4 million and the police never pursued the boat. They panicked and tossed it. That was there big mistake. it was then pieced together at a later date

no evidence was shown that he was ever paid US$10 million. That he dumped the drugs when interrupted by patrol boat.  Police did later inspect the boat. No trace of methamphetamine.

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On 11/14/2018 at 4:55 AM, CelticBhoy said:

" . . . the expat everyone wanted to get to know . . .   '

 

Bet there's been some facebook unfriending now!

Probably. But when you take Thai police at Face value and assume they are telling the truth when they say he was (1) a Hell's Angel (2) an associate of Bagnato (3) lived a luxury life style - say compatible with an international drugs trafficker' (4) was an associate of Hell's Angel Wayne Schneider, then you have fallen for some of the oldest scams in town. Odd, because most people here seem to think they know Thailand well.  Here's a hint. The chief prosecution witness against Luke Cook, was an Australian working as a Thai Police Volunteer, who also happened to be the person who provided the house and cars for the murder of Wayne Schneider. Wouldn't that make you suspicious?

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14 hours ago, Gang Warily said:

Probably. But when you take Thai police at Face value and assume they are telling the truth when they say he was (1) a Hell's Angel (2) an associate of Bagnato (3) lived a luxury life style - say compatible with an international drugs trafficker' (4) was an associate of Hell's Angel Wayne Schneider, then you have fallen for some of the oldest scams in town. Odd, because most people here seem to think they know Thailand well.  Here's a hint. The chief prosecution witness against Luke Cook, was an Australian working as a Thai Police Volunteer, who also happened to be the person who provided the house and cars for the murder of Wayne Schneider. Wouldn't that make you suspicious?

 

 

I think you have pretty much nailed it now that the facts of the case are beginning to surface.

 

Also, I am lead to believe the French guy who was a police assistant and involved in, not only this, but this and many other scams has now been given his marching orders by the real police colonel that was involved in this matter., and his services are no longer required.

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Gang Warily I think you got something going here mate? All the witness police volunteers? Where is this Luke Cook guys Hell's Angels jacket or his Chopper?

Did the Hell's Angels turn in their choppers for Ducati motorcycles? I think the the tattoos are a match to the famous french police volunteer .

Thierry-muscle.jpg

thierry-tattoo.jpg

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On 11/14/2018 at 12:35 PM, georgegeorgia said:

Reading the story in the news its alleged he was paid 10 million for his part, i wonder how many of us would do the same?

 

so please dont cast the first stone unless u never sinned

death penalty sounds right for this low life, but out of compassion his wife should be allowed to live. and I don't anyone who would do something as stupid as this.

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